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  • Roger Clough
    Aug 31, 2013
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      Hi Eray Ozkural

      Energy had to come from the same place as matter, since
      they are interchangeable via E=mc^2. Which means
      both came from Mind, as does everything.

      That's how Leibniz saw it. And I follow him out of
      necessity, for without him there is no Mind.
      It sefrtainty isn't in materialism.


      Dr. Roger B Clough NIST (ret.) [1/1/2000]
      See my Leibniz site at
      http://independent.academia.edu/RogerClough


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      From: Eray Ozkural
      Receiver: ai-philosophy@yahoogroups.com
      Time: 2013-08-30, 16:39:34
      Subject: Re: [ai-philosophy] Forum Heat Death




      >Well you tell me where energy came from. :)
      >
      >What's hostile about a good joke? Watchmaker argument was never good and scientists don't take it so seriously.
      >
      >--
      >Eray Ozkural
      >http://myspace.com/arizanesil
      >
      >
      >
      >On Aug 30, 2013, at 10:47 PM, "Roger Clough" wrote:
      >
      >> Hi Eray Ozkural
      >>
      >>
      >> Wy are you so hostle ? I thught you were a scientist,
      >> here you are trying to win a debate. Why not search instead
      >> for the truth ?
      >>
      >> So let me ask this . OK, suppose that the
      >> laws of physics came with the matter.
      >>
      >> Then where did the matter come from ?l
      >>
      >>
      >> Dr. Roger B Clough NIST (ret.) [1/1/2000]
      >> See my Leibniz site at
      >> http://independent.academia.edu/RogerClough
      >>
      >>
      >> ----- Receiving the following content -----
      >> From: Eray Ozkural
      >> Receiver: ai-philosophy@yahoogroups.com
      >> Time: 2013-08-30, 13:39:41
      >> Subject: Re: [ai-philosophy] Forum Heat Death
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>> What if there is a quantum godputer with googol qubits? It's like Leibniz on a d-wave hype machine.
      >>>
      >>> --
      >>> Eray Ozkural
      >>>
      >>>
      >>>
      >>>
      >>> On Aug 30, 2013, at 6:59 PM, Michael Olea wrote:
      >>>
      >>>>
      >>>>
      >>>>
      >>>> On Aug 30, 2013, at 7:22 AM, calhorn@... wrote:
      >>>>
      >>>>> Eray, what the hell has happened to your group?
      >>>>
      >>>> I suspect that people with interesting ideas are too busy writing code to count
      >>>> qubits on the heads of pins.
      >>>>
      >>>> A googol bottle of beer on the wall, a googol bottles of beer ...
      >>>>
      >>>>
      >>>>
      >>>
      >>
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