Re: [agile-usability] Design Values
- so you're no longer the Bally table king?jer 'digging up the original Tommy soundtrack' kriegel
"Be well, do good work & keep in touch."
- Garrison KeillorOn Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 2:12 PM, Ron Jeffries <ronjeffries@...> wrote:
I am possibly the nastiest person you or this group has ever seen.
However, I'm handing my pinball crown to you. You have consistently
misinterpreted what Larry has been saying, while expressing your
ideas rudely to boot.
Congratulations.I can imagine that the supreme being is a spaghetti monster. I have
On Monday, July 13, 2009, at 1:33:51 PM, you wrote:
> On Jul 13, 2009, at 5:18 AM, Larry Constantine wrote:
>> The operant clauses there are: "have no reason to believe" not
>> "can't imagine"; "resulted in a dramatically better" not
>> "contributing to"; and "within the constraints of time."
> Have "no reason to believe" while not exactly the same, is quite
> interchangeable with "can't imagine." Looks like hair splitting. You
> can blame the interpretation, or you can look at how it can and is
> interpreted and be aware of it.
no reason to believe it. The two phrases are in no way
interchangeable.Yes, "I have no reason to believe that it would help," and "I don't
> Is if far fetched that "I have no reason to believe" is taken as "I
> don't really see how it would have helped?" You're not talking night
> and day here, more like 12pm and 12:01.
really see that it would have helped," are pretty close to the same
meaning to me.
A good response to either would be to provide a reason to believe or
assistance in seeing why it might have helped. You did neither. You
trashed the poster.
Not well done, even from my position as the recognized International
but a pragmatic principle of effectiveness. -- Marc Hamann
- One of Jeff's points resonated strongly with me. To put it flippantly, no one cares how we build products, just how much they get from using them. Ideally, the way we work makes us happy, makes our customers happy, and makes our bosses happy. (note: money is often a significant component of said happiness)Adherence to the process can be almost comical. At a prior company, when talking to someone about why they missed their release deadline (yeah, I know. Agile and deadlines are not the best of friends) he explained that a certain activity had to be done 2 sprints prior to release, but that its associated story got cut from the sprint it needed to happen in. Clearly, there is a lot at work here that I'm not going to bother to dissect, but this team was more focused on the agile process than the success of the product and the perceptions of the company leadership. It was not pretty.-jer"Be well, do good work & keep in touch."
- Garrison Keillor
On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 11:00 PM, Ron Jeffries <ronjeffries@...> wrote:Hello, John. On Sunday, July 26, 2009, at 10:53:07 PM, you wrote:I often recommend exercise and eating sensibly ...
> Heh. It would never occur to me to recommend something that I wasn't
> doing myself.
-- John Kenneth Galbraith