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Re: [agile-usability] Re: Nielsen's article on UseIt.com

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  • William Pietri
    ... Maybe threat is the wrong word, but I think he has a point. I m a programmer, and I agree that s at least a big risk. I don t know that it s the biggest
    Message 1 of 76 , Nov 19, 2008
      aacockburn wrote:
      > I'm happy he wrote it and I agree with pretty much everything he
      > wrote except, "Agile's biggest threat to system quality stems from
      > the fact that it's a method proposed by programmers" [...]
      > If UX designers decide that BECAUSE it was suggested by programmers
      > that it's bad for them, then the UX designers are the biggest
      > threat themselves.

      Maybe threat is the wrong word, but I think he has a point.

      I'm a programmer, and I agree that's at least a big risk. I don't know
      that it's the biggest one, but from the perspective of somebody who
      spends most of his time on consumer-facing software, I think Agile
      methods as written have a a big gap. I don't think this was intentional;
      it's just a continuation of the prevalent software development culture.
      My understanding is that none of the Agile Manifesto signers was a user
      experience designer, user researcher, or interaction designer, for example.

      The experience of a lot of designers is that they get run right over by
      engineering on a regular basis, and because of that end up with products
      they're very unhappy with. When engineers propose a shiny new method
      that seems to exclude them yet again, and doesn't have room for the
      accommodations that they've wedged into the waterfall-ish processes,
      then it's no wonder that they'd see it as a threat.

      If we'd like UX designers not to see us as a threat, I don't think
      telling them that they're the real problem is particularly productive.
      I'd rather focus on altering either the methods or our presentation of
      them so that they don't feel threatened.

    • Desilets, Alain
      ... that ... one ... http://forums.construx.com/blogs/stevemcc/archive/2008/03/27/productivit y- ...
      Message 76 of 76 , Jan 9, 2009
        > > There are other studies (I don't have the exact quote) that show
        > > the difference between a top-notch developer and a run-of-the-mill
        > > is a factor of 10 or so.
        > The back up for that is here :-

        Thx James. I always assumed that this was indeed supported by actual
        studies, but still had a small nagging doubt that it might be one of
        those urban legends that start with "studies show that ...." ;-). This
        is a good reference which eliminates that doubt.

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