Re: [agile-usability] Re: One Of My Biggest Agile Problem.
- Jonathan House wrote:
>For those wanting the other side of it, I'd strongly recommend "Punished
> As an aside to all of this, we continued the rewards / punishments
> conversation into the Agile Roundtable discussion group here in Salt
> Lake City on Thursday and had some fascinating discussions. There were
> others here who were present, so I'll let them share their thoughts.
> My takeaway was that there was no convincing arguments that dispelled
> the reward / punishment mechanisms as a means of successfully altering
The first link has a table of contents. The second is an interview with
him. The third, aside from allowing you to buy it, has a lot of
interesting reviews, pro and con.
It was recommended to me by the wife of well-known Agile coach Mike
Hill, who is a teacher. It does a great job of making the case against
extrinsic rewards and punishments. Like the author, I think they corrode
intrinsic motivation. That motivation is especially valuable in
knowledge work, which requires creativity, bottom-up insight, and a lot
That's not to say that I think punishment and reward are useless. That's
exactly how I train dogs. But when I look at the most creative, most
effective people I've worked with, they're not running from rolled-up
newspapers or running toward treats.
- aacockburn wrote:
> I also have enjoyed this rampaging discussion immensely, even ifThat's a good point. The biggest complaint I hear about this list is
> it has precious little to do with agile-usability. It has opened
> some interesting doors for long-term inquiry in my mind. (Thanks
> Jonathan for that).
> Maybe now we can let this group get on with its regularly scheduled
> program :)
that the volume makes it too hard to keep up. Might I suggest that any
future discussion on this topic go to a more appropriate list? E.g.,