Re: [agile-usability] off topic... was prototyping.
- Yes Ron...that must be it.Point was that no methodology is implemented in a pure form. The client is always right and even when they're not, they're paying the bills. If it's an internal client, you still gotta work with them.Perhaps there's some magic land where perfect Agile/RUP/XP/Waterfall (or whatever one uses) occurs, but I've yet to see it over 11+ years of doing development with lots of clients.----- Original Message ----
From: Ron Jeffries <ronjeffries@...>
Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 4:43:49 PM
Subject: Re: [agile-usability] Prototyping Tools
Hello, Brian. On Thursday, January 10, 2008, at 1:37:36 PM, you
> In the end, I've worked with damn near every software devMaybe you've just done one methodology and called it different
> methodolgy there is, and they all are
> the same.
This is how I develop software.
Take the parts that make sense to you.
Ignore the rest.
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- Hello, Brian. On Thursday, January 10, 2008, at 5:06:17 PM, you
> Yes Ron...that must be it.Yes, but that doesn't mean that I have to code with my finger up my
> Point was that no methodology is implemented in a pure form. The client is always right and
> even when they're not, they're paying the bills. If it's an internal client, you still gotta
> work with them.
nose just because they say to.
But my point, perhaps not as respectfully phrased as it might have
been, was that maybe all methods look alike to you because, rather
than doing what the methods say, you're consciously or unconsciously
reverting to something close to your standard way of doing things.
I've done a number of different methodologies too, since 19mumble,
and I have found them to be rather different in some important ways.
> Perhaps there's some magic land where perfectWell, it is not given to us to be perfect, but I've seen places that
> Agile/RUP/XP/Waterfall (or whatever one uses)
> occurs, but I've yet to see it over 11+ years of doing
> development with lots of clients.
were really trying to do it, and others where they would say they
were but visibly weren't.
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than to attempt to do nothing and succeed.
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