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  • Jerome Ryckborst
    Hmm. In the book Lean Software Development: An Agile Toolkit for Software Development Managers , authors Mary Poppendieck and Tom Poppendieck list and
    Message 1 of 2 , Oct 13, 2005
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      Usability and agile development

      Hmm. In the book "Lean Software Development: An Agile Toolkit for Software Development Managers", authors Mary Poppendieck and Tom Poppendieck list and elaborate thee principles:

      - Eliminate waste.
      - Amplify learning.
      - Decide as late as possible.
      - Deliver as fast as possible.
      - Empower the team.
      - Build integrity in.
      - See the whole.

      In the section "Build integrity in" they write that software with integrity [...] scores high on usability [...].

      Your views?

      -=- Jerome

      ________________________________

      From: Desilets, Alain [mailto:alain.desilets@...]
      Sent: October 13, 2005 11:23 AM
      To: agile-usability@yahoogroups.com
      Subject: RE: [agile-usability] Specifying Colors vs System Colors


      I haven't read "About" Face, but I have read "The Inmates are Running the Asylum" and I can say that what that book proposes is as far from agile as can possibly be. In fact, towards the end of the book there is a nice little diagram that looks dangerously like the good old waterfall model.

       
      I could rant on for hours about this, but that's bad for my health ;-).
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              -----Original Message-----
              From: agile-usability@yahoogroups.com [mailto:agile-usability@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jerome Ryckborst
              Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2005 2:04 PM
              To: agile-usability@yahoogroups.com
              Subject: RE: [agile-usability] Specifying Colors vs System Colors
             
             
                      Is usability agile?
              
                      If so (and I hope so!) then at the risk of sounding nerdy, the Cooper and Reimann book, About Face 2.0, is a pleasure to read when you're bored. Each chapter pretty much stands alone, and there's SO MUCH of interest to developers who care about the user interface.

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              -=- Jerome

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              From: Cummins, Darin [mailto:Darin_Cummins@...]
              Sent: October 13, 2005 8:11 AM
              To: agile-usability@yahoogroups.com
              Subject: RE: [agile-usability] Specifying Colors vs System Colors
             
             

              This is a good article.  To put it in to the terms of the article, our application falls into the "sovereign" category.  My post compared "sovereign" and "transient" where I believe sovereign applications can and maybe should be branded where transient applications definitely should adhere to a look that the user is experiencing when running other transient applications.

              

              --Darin

              

              

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                      From: agile-usability@yahoogroups.com [mailto:agile-usability@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jerome Ryckborst

              Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2005 5:29 PM
              To: agile-usability@yahoogroups.com
              Subject: RE: [agile-usability] Specifying Colors vs System Colors

              

              Darin wrote:

              > a large scale application [...]

              

              What's you're talking about is what Cooper and Reimann call "posture" in their book, About Face 2.0. I did a quick Google search, and here's a 1-page plagiarised version of the relevant chapter:

              http://www.mines.edu/~crader/cs498/TextNotes/ch-08.html

              

              -=- Jerome

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    • Jon Meads
      Depends on what they mean by integrity . When I refer to integrity as being essential to usability, I usually mean it as a sense of cohesiveness the user
      Message 2 of 2 , Oct 13, 2005
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        Usability and agile development
        Depends on what they mean by "integrity".  When I refer to integrity as being essential to usability, I usually mean it as a sense of cohesiveness the user interface provides with itself and with the tasks it supports regarding terms and behavior. A lack of integrity (e.g., using different metaphorical terms to describe related actions) can add confusion and may indicate sloppiness in developing and expressing concepts. Usually this means having a good general understanding of how all the features and capabilities will be organized and expressed.
         
        Cheers,
        jon


        From: agile-usability@yahoogroups.com [mailto:agile-usability@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jerome Ryckborst
        Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2005 3:35 PM
        To: agile-usability@yahoogroups.com
        Subject: [agile-usability] Usability and agile development

        Hmm. In the book "Lean Software Development: An Agile Toolkit for Software Development Managers", authors Mary Poppendieck and Tom Poppendieck list and elaborate thee principles:

        - Eliminate waste.
        - Amplify learning.
        - Decide as late as possible.
        - Deliver as fast as possible.
        - Empower the team.
        - Build integrity in.
        - See the whole.

        In the section "Build integrity in" they write that software with integrity [...] scores high on usability [...].

        Your views?

        -=- Jerome

        ________________________________

        From: Desilets, Alain [mailto:alain.desilets@...]
        Sent: October 13, 2005 11:23 AM
        To: agile-usability@yahoogroups.com
        Subject: RE: [agile-usability] Specifying Colors vs System Colors


        I haven't read "About" Face, but I have read "The Inmates are Running the Asylum" and I can say that what that book proposes is as far from agile as can possibly be. In fact, towards the end of the book there is a nice little diagram that looks dangerously like the good old waterfall model.


        I could rant on for hours about this, but that's bad for my health ;-).
        Alain Désilets, MASc
        Agent de recherches/Research Officer
        Institut de technologie de l'information du CNRC /
        NRC Institute for Information Technology

        alain.desilets@...
        Tél/Tel (613) 990-2813
        Facsimile/télécopieur: (613) 952-7151

        Conseil national de recherches Canada, M50, 1200 chemin Montréal,
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        K1A 0R6

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                -----Original Message-----
                From: agile-usability@yahoogroups.com [mailto:agile-usability@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jerome Ryckborst
                Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2005 2:04 PM
                To: agile-usability@yahoogroups.com
                Subject: RE: [agile-usability] Specifying Colors vs System Colors
               
               
                        Is usability agile?
                
                        If so (and I hope so!) then at the risk of sounding nerdy, the Cooper and Reimann book, About Face 2.0, is a pleasure to read when you're bored. Each chapter pretty much stands alone, and there's SO MUCH of interest to developers who care about the user interface.

                *                       Canada: $25 (used) at Amazon.ca:
                        http://www.amazon.ca/exec/obidos/search-handle-form/702-5064747-7615259
                *                       USA: $17 (used) at Amazon.com:
                        http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/search-handle-url/ref=br_ss_hs/102-0300908-4389703?platform=gurupa&url=index%3Dblended&field-keywords=%22About+Face+2.0%22

                
                -=- Jerome

        ________________________________

                From: Cummins, Darin [mailto:Darin_Cummins@...]
                Sent: October 13, 2005 8:11 AM
                To: agile-usability@yahoogroups.com
                Subject: RE: [agile-usability] Specifying Colors vs System Colors
               
               

                This is a good article.  To put it in to the terms of the article, our application falls into the "sovereign" category.  My post compared "sovereign" and "transient" where I believe sovereign applications can and maybe should be branded where transient applications definitely should adhere to a look that the user is experiencing when running other transient applications.

                

                --Darin

                

                

                ________________________________

                        From: agile-usability@yahoogroups.com [mailto:agile-usability@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jerome Ryckborst

                Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2005 5:29 PM
                To: agile-usability@yahoogroups.com
                Subject: RE: [agile-usability] Specifying Colors vs System Colors

                

                Darin wrote:

                > a large scale application [...]

                

                What's you're talking about is what Cooper and Reimann call "posture" in their book, About Face 2.0. I did a quick Google search, and here's a 1-page plagiarised version of the relevant chapter:

                http://www.mines.edu/~crader/cs498/TextNotes/ch-08.html

                

                -=- Jerome

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