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3523RE: [agile-usability] Re: versus collocated teams

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  • Desilets, Alain
    Jun 5, 2007
      Interesting. But he does conclude the first posting by saying that:

      I think sitting together in one big room is better, all other things
      equal. However, all other things are seldom equal. In my case, I want to
      live in paradise and no one else seems to want to (although, if you all
      it wouldn't be paradise any more). Working together remotely is much
      than not working together at all.

      But interesting none the less.


      > -----Original Message-----
      > From: agile-usability@yahoogroups.com
      > [mailto:agile-usability@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of chrs_mcmhn
      > Sent: June 5, 2007 12:40 PM
      > To: agile-usability@yahoogroups.com
      > Subject: [agile-usability] Re: versus collocated teams
      > > Work at home appeals to me, definitely, but the bullpen seems to
      > > really work.
      > > Lisa Baker
      > Two things:
      > I'm surprised no one has quoted Kent Beck, who routinely
      > works remotely:
      > http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/extremeprogramming/message/119091
      > http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/extremeprogramming/message/116451
      > http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/extremeprogramming/message/112368
      > Second, most of this discussion makes an implicit assumption
      > that there is a main body of workers at a central location.
      > That is not necessarily the case.
      > A little over a month ago, I started work for a company
      > called Socialtext. Socialtext is a mature startup. We sell
      > wikis. The dev/QA/sales staff all work remotely, across the
      > US, in Canada, and in other countries. There is an office,
      > but only about 20% of the company uses it, mostly management.
      > We are extremely agile. We've adapted the XP/Scrum ideas
      > along the way to our particular situation, so we're a bit
      > mutated, but still
      > agile.
      > Since we eat, drink, and breathe wikis, the company has a
      > remarkably rich culture. The whole history of the company
      > exists on the wiki.
      > We also routinely use IRC, VNC, IM, email, and we have an
      > asterisk server, among other collaboration tools. We
      > understand that face-to-face communication is important, so
      > the company allows anyone to travel to meet anyone else when
      > necessary. About half the company
      > convened recently in Vancouver for a "hackathon".
      > Much of our work is open. You can watch us if you like:
      > http://www.socialtext.net/open/index.cgi
      > One of underlying ideas of agile development is that it
      > requires substantial skill to achieve. We have an extremely
      > talented, literate, interested staff, who would probably
      > succeed wherever they work.
      > I had a job where I was the only remote worker. That was not
      > very good. Now that I have a job where everyone is a remote
      > worker, it
      > turns out to be remarkably effective.
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