3516Re: [agile-usability] Re: versus collocated teams
- Jun 5, 2007Hello, Owen. On Tuesday, June 5, 2007, at 8:43:28 AM, you wrote:
>> Please explain clearly how it could be better for the customer toMy point is that you, the remote guy, have to be somehow "better"
>> have you, a long way away, [rather than] someone just as good as
>> you, right there.
> I probably can't. I don't have enough experience at managing
> personalities. I have already outlined three areas where I think
> there might be a logical benefit in terms of cost reduction,
> access to a larger pool of resources, and ease of
> reconfigurability, but these are just assertions. You know they
> are not backed up with the 'experience' that you have.
than a local guy. If someone you want to work for can find someone
who is "just as good" as you are, and who wants to be present, it
seems that such an individual will inherently be more "desirable" to
someone who is recruiting.
If that is true, and I believe it is, it should get you thinking in
a different direction. You appear now to be thinking "Hey, it's just
as good to be remote," despite the fact that the entire universe
seems to be aligned against you on the other side of that line.
Instead, it would seem to me to stop railing against (what I and
many others perceive to be) reality, and instead start figuring out
ways to offer things which will not likely be available locally.
That might be some specialized skills, or just generally high power
of some kind: I don't know.
It would be a very tough sale for me. I would frankly prefer someone
"rather good and local" over someone "very good and far away",
because I've worked both ways and value the interactions that
highly. Others might not find it quite such a tough sale, but I'm
suggesting to you that it will be a sale.
You are taking something off the table in the negotiation: easy face
to face access. To make your sale, I think you'll need to put
something back on the table that your customer will value at least
> I don't follow Rugby Union: where the term Scrum comes from. However,I'm not trying to discredit you. I'm trying to help you to observe
> Allan Jones coached the Australian Rugby team. He isn't a role model of
> mine. In fact in all ways but one possibly, it appears that he is my
> antithesis. He lead Australia to successive Bledisloe Cup, Tri Nations,
> and World Cup victories. Read an unauthorised biography put together
> about him recently.
> He had a saying that went something like this: "Play the ball, not the
> man". I'm not sure that trying to discredit me will win your argument in
> the long-run...
what you are saying and to begin to find ways to get what you want.
> I'm feeling a bit threatened by your persistent questioning, pleaseThat pain you feel might be an indication that you're holding your
> forgive me if I have misread the situation.
head in the wrong position ...
I cannot find my duck.
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