Dear software testers, I’m preparing a new survey guide on the current state of test automation. My goals are to identify what important changes took placeappsysbel
Hi Shrini, most of your replies revolve around "this is not a unit test because it's not isolated and dependency injected". Basically I was trying to explain
Hi Shrini, I agree that code with no seams is harder to test. Not just for mocking/dependencies, but simply because seams pretty much define an interface, andwouterla
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