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Defining "agile testing"

Thanks to everyone who responded to Janet's post about coming up with a definition of agile testing. We blogged about our interesting conversations on this
Lisa Crispin
Jun 30
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Re: Testing the agile-testing list

I know there are downsides to linkedin, but there are downsides to the yahoo-group (or at least the way it behaves in my gmail): * Right now I have two
Steven Gordon
Jun 23
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Re: What is Agile Testing?

Mike, Did you not finish your thought? Your last sentence is not complete, so wondering if I’m missing something important. Lisa and I talk about
    Janet Gregory
    Jun 23
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    Re: What is Agile Testing?

    Hi Mike, I strongly believe the "specialist" vs. "everyone on the team can do all tasks" is a false dichotomy. It's binary thinking, in short. The truth is
    Markus Gaertner
    Jun 23
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    Re: What is Agile Testing?

    Agile approaches tend to be built around the idea (or ideal, maybe) that any member of an Agile team can, and should, be able to perform any task that the team
    Mike Emeigh
    Jun 23
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    Re: What is Agile Testing?

    Hi Janet, fair, and it works with a limited audience of folks, i.e. the folks that know what context-driven testing is. On the other hand, I would also
    Markus Gaertner
    Jun 23
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    Re: What is Agile Testing?

    Markus, I’m not really sure that definition would help people understand what agile testing so I’m struggling with it a bit. First, I’d have to know what
      Janet Gregory
      Jun 23
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      Re: What is Agile Testing?

      True, though Brian later distanced himself from the context-driven crowd, and contributed so much to how we approach testing in agile, such as with his
      Lisa Crispin
      Jun 22
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      Re: What is Agile Testing?

      I don't think so. Given the history, Brian Marick back in 2001 was a proponent of context-driven testing while at the Snowbird meeting. My phrase sort of
      Markus Gaertner
      Jun 22
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      Re: What is Agile Testing?

      That seems a bit circular, though? :-) On Thu, Jun 22, 2017 at 12:33 PM, Markus Gaertner mgaertne@... ... -- Lisa Crispin Co-author with Janet Gregory,
      Lisa Crispin
      Jun 22
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      Re: What is Agile Testing?

      Hope I'm not a heretic here, but a few years earlier I came up with this: Good Agile Testing is good context-driven testing carried out in an Agile context.
      Markus Gaertner
      Jun 22
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      Re: What is agile testing?

      All the definitions here that I accept lead to the conclusion that Agile Testing is an integral part of Agile Software Development rather than a separate
      Steven Gordon
      Jun 22
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      Re: What is agile testing?

      Lisa, On 6/22/17 9:51 AM, Lisa Crispin lisa.crispin@... [agile-testing] ... Yes, they are. Sometimes the person with the assumptions isn't aware of them.
      George Dinwiddie
      Jun 22
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      Re: What is agile testing?

      Bernard, On 6/22/17 6:53 AM, Bernard Homès bhomes@... [agile-testing] ... It was not taught to me, either. I just did it. I'm not "trained" in
      George Dinwiddie
      Jun 22
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      Re: What is agile testing?

      Bug prevention over bug detection, right? Sounds like your experience is similar to mine. Thanks for contributing your views! -- Lisa On Thu, Jun 22, 2017 at
      Lisa Crispin
      Jun 22
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