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  • Colin Jamieson
    Hi there all, I have attached a file on the Robert Adams Thermal Motor which is very interesting and answers many questions, regards Colin ... From: Russel
    Message 1 of 80 , Jul 14, 2012
    Hi there all, I have attached a file on the Robert Adams Thermal Motor which is very interesting and answers many questions, regards Colin

    --- On Sat, 7/7/12, Russel Prier <russelp@...> wrote:

    From: Russel Prier <russelp@...>
    Subject: Re: [adamsmotor] Re: Documents still available
    To: adamsmotor@yahoogroups.com
    Date: Saturday, 7, July, 2012, 12:42 PM



    Hi Richard,

    No idea where you could buy a copy now,  I have one which I brought off Robert but there is very little useful info in it from memory.  I think it must have been written in the late  eighties and much of what he knew then he proved to be incorrect later on as he went further with his work.  It is a shame he never wrote a complete work in the early 2000s when he had things really cooking along. 

    In the late 90s he was working on the idea of running his thermo motor with a steam turbine because it could make soo much heat but then he hit on the idea of collecting electricity directly from the water He used to cool his coil cores.  Totally ingenious as the water takes on a massive electrical as the magnets go past the cores,  in fact several times more power  than the coils pick up.  It involves reverse engineering the way we turn electrical energy into heating water.  A process so simple you would not believe it.  When he took the electrical energy out of the water it cooled the water naturally as the energy was the heat.

    All the best
    Russel

    On 7/07/2012 7:21 a.m., geej12 wrote:
     
    Thanks for the link, Russel. I can't find any references to 'The Transistor Enigma' with a normal google. Any idea where I can find a copy?
    Richard

    --- In adamsmotor@yahoogroups.com, Russel Prier <russelp@...> wrote:
    >
    > Thanks for your input Richard,
    >
    > Every reply is great and building on our knowledge base, it
    > also triggers thoughts and memories of specific things
    > Robert would say to me when we were talking. One of the
    > things he was definite on was that the combined coil
    > resistance was a multiple of 144 ie. 18, 36, 72, or 144 ohms
    > and that the load resistance needed to be double the winding
    > resistance. This probably does not line up with
    > conventional thinking but what does when you are looking at
    > an old but mostly undiscovered form of energy that has not
    > been fully mapped and understood for very important
    > political reasons.
    >
    > I think the info about the sparking of the star wheel may
    > have been in the book "The Transistor Inigma" By Robert
    > Adams. You may be able to find some old info on the NEXUS
    > website Australia
    > http://www.nexusmagazine..com/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=shop.flypage&product_id=131&category_id=22&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=44
    > If you dont have that book you will get some of the info
    > from it but it was written early on and he learnt an awful
    > lot more after he wrote that. Robert had the attitude that
    > he made his discoveries by hard slog and everyone else
    > should have to do the same, unfortunately we dont all have
    > his vast experience or background knowledge and intuition
    > for this stuff so we need to share and help each other along
    > to get there. It is great to get info and help from anyone
    > who has anything to offer the group.
    >
    > Kind Regards
    > Russel P.
    >
    > On 4/07/2012 11:56 p.m., geej12 wrote:
    > >
    > > Hi all,
    > > I'm loving reading this thread, it's so good to hear about
    > > people struggling with similar problems and ideas as me.
    > > (Even the cold- my tinkering was put on hold for a
    > > considerable period of time after my wife nearly burst a
    > > blood vessel when she found me using a lathe in the living
    > > room because the workshop was too cold- the explanation
    > > that I was only winding coils and not cutting metal was
    > > lost on her...).
    > > Russel, my spark gap is on the output side of the circuit,
    > > and adding a second is on my 'to do' list. I haven't tried
    > > placing magnets around the gap, but that sounds fun. I
    > > didn't know that Robert's starwheel had sparks improving
    > > efficiency- I thought I'd read most of the stuff out
    > > there- do you have a reference for this? My input voltage
    > > is 180 Vdc- I do not charge the same batteries from the
    > > ouput circuit, I have a separate bank (I really try to
    > > treat input and output as two completely separate units-
    > > my input power source is embarassingly inefficient and
    > > cheap, so I won't go into detail!)
    > > I've also had the idea of using a 'reverse' tesla coil but
    > > haven't got anywhere with it yet. I'd be fascinated if
    > > anyone else has tried this.
    > > As for resonance, it is of course crucial, but I'm not
    > > sure we can look at this as traditional LCR resonance on
    > > the two sides of the circuit. In a previous life I was a
    > > traditional physicist (semiconductor physics) and I've
    > > found that applying my normal logic doesn't always take me
    > > in the right direction...
    > >
    > > Richard
    > >
    > > --- In adamsmotor@yahoogroups.com
    > > <mailto:adamsmotor%40yahoogroups.com>, "jasmen52"
    > > <jasmen@> wrote:
    > > >
    > > > Thanks Russ, now my variable inductor is sorted, I
    > > remember those old gang variable capacitors and they are
    > > variable in the picofarad rang. because the motor
    > > frequency is a lot lower i might use a rotary switch so I
    > > can switch capacitor in steps and use the variable
    > > inductor to fine tune. Don't Viac wipers sliding over a
    > > large coil? regards Colin
    > > >
    > > > --- In adamsmotor@yahoogroups.com
    > > <mailto:adamsmotor%40yahoogroups.com>, Russel Prier
    > > <russelp@> wrote:
    > > > >
    > > > > Yes a variable inductor is not hard to make, I built one
    > > > > when I was trying get a Stan Meyer hydrogen generator
    > > > > circuit to work. I had tightly wound magnet wire over a
    > > > > former and rubed the enamel through on one side and
    > > mounted
    > > > > a wiper arm which I could move along the coil to pickup
    > > > > different numbers of turns. some people built crystal
    > > sets
    > > > > this way. I have also been looking around for the old big
    > > > > ganged variable capacitors you used to get in old sw
    > > radios
    > > > > when I was young but they are not common now.
    > > > > Yes when all of the variables are right resonance
    > > impedance
    > > > > inductance and capacitance with the right arrangement
    > > that
    > > > > will be something to see.
    > > > > All the best Russ P.
    > > > > On 4/07/2012 5:25 p.m., Colin Jamieson wrote:
    > > > > >
    > > > > >
    > > > > > Whether it be Tesla, Don Smith or the Adams motor
    > > they all
    > > > > > have one thing in common RESONANCE. Now as we all
    > > know in
    > > > > > a LC tuned circuit when the capacitance or
    > > inductance is
    > > > > > varied untill resonance is reached a massive voltage
    > > spike
    > > > > > occurs or current spike depending with LC circiut is
    > > > > > series connected or in parallel and in a tesla coil the
    > > > > > length or number of turns is adjusted in primary untill
    > > > > > the primary coil is in tune with secondary and
    > > resonance
    > > > > > is achieved. And we all know that when connecting one
    > > > > > aparatus, component or connection to another there
    > > is not
    > > > > > a 100% transfer of power if there is an impedance
    > > > > > mis-match otherwise the power or energy is reflected
    > > back.
    > > > > > Well what I am getting at is surely the output taken
    > > from
    > > > > > the adams motor, for maximum transfer of power to what
    > > > > > ever we use to take it away with should match the
    > > > > > impedance of the coils. Its easy enough to measure the
    > > > > > inductance of the generator coils and maybe the
    > > > > > capacitance of them, and we know the frequency of our
    > > > > > motor, on 4 times and off 4 times a revolution. so
    > > what if
    > > > > > the inductor or coil we use to take away or capture the
    > > > > > energy of the gen coils and maybe put a variable cap or
    > > > > > inductor in the capture circuit and try and tune in.
    > > Just
    > > > > > an Idea. cheers Colin
    > > > > >
    > > > > > --- On *Wed, 4/7/12, Russel Prier
    > > > > > /<russelp@>/* wrote:
    > > > > >
    > > > > >
    > > > > > From: Russel Prier <russelp@>
    > > > > > Subject: Re: [adamsmotor] Re: Documents still available
    > > > > > To: adamsmotor@yahoogroups.com
    > > <mailto:adamsmotor%40yahoogroups.com>
    > > > > > Date: Wednesday, 4, July, 2012, 7:41 AM
    > > > > >
    > > > > >
    > > > > >
    > > > > > Yes Don Smith is an interesting character.. I dont
    > > > > > know if he was the brains or a front for some-one
    > > > > > else. He is an old man now and last I heard was not
    > > > > > very well. Yes I am sure Tesla's arc gaps and coils
    > > > > > were a receiver of FE but as you know millions of
    > > > > > volts are not very useful. I may have a copy of a guy
    > > > > > at a Tesla Symposium who got and spoke and said he was
    > > > > > having trouble managing in excess of a thousand amps
    > > > > > he was getting from his setup. What a lovely problem
    > > > > > to have. I have heard a number of people comment that
    > > > > > Tesla's patent for an Ozone Generator was the most
    > > > > > accurate schematic as he was not forced to change it
    > > > > > so no-one could build it as they saw no use for it at
    > > > > > the time. If you look at it is uses the DC motor
    > > > > > windings as a secondary inductor for the system.
    > > > > > So much to learn so little time.
    > > > > >
    > > > > > All the best Russ P.
    > > > > >
    > > > > >
    > > > > > On 3/07/2012 9:36 p.m., Colin Jamieson wrote:
    > > > > >> Hi Russel I checked out the Caduceus on the web, very
    > > > > >> very interesting I hadn't known about them before,
    > > > > >> they even produce longitudinal waves in which Tesla
    > > > > >> was working with. I need to read more about them and
    > > > > >> see what can be done with them in different
    > > > > >> applications. A year or so ago there was this english
    > > > > >> guy going though the workings of a Tesla coil and he
    > > > > >> had a theory that instead of pumping high frequency
    > > > > >> pulses into a coil and adjusting the coil lenghs to
    > > > > >> find resonace to produce big stream of sparks. do it
    > > > > >> in reverse, the secondary windings that puduced these
    > > > > >> high voltages was really the receiver of
    > > > > >> FE or longitudinal waves and then stepdown and
    > > > > >> converted into usable voltage with high current just
    > > > > >> the same as what Don Smith does with his
    > > > > >> inventions..There a lot of strange and wonderful
    > > > > >> things out there, Colin
    > > > > >> --- On *Tue, 3/7/12, Russel Prier
    > > > > >> /<russelp@>
    > > > > >>
    > > <http://nz.mc960.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=russelp@>/*
    > > > > >> wrote:
    > > > > >>
    > > > > >>
    > > > > >> From: Russel Prier <russelp@>
    > > > > >>
    > > <http://nz.mc960..mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=russelp@>
    > > > > >> Subject: Re: [adamsmotor] Re: Documents still
    > > > > >> available
    > > > > >> To: adamsmotor@yahoogroups.com
    > > <mailto:adamsmotor%40yahoogroups.com>
    > > > > >>
    > > <http://nz.mc960.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=adamsmotor@yahoogroups.com>
    > > > > >> Date: Tuesday, 3, July, 2012, 5:58 PM
    > > > > >>
    > > > > >>
    > > > > >>
    > > > > >> Hi Colin,
    > > > > >>
    > > > > >> A toroidal transformer is probably a better
    > > > > >> option than the Microwave transformer. I did not
    > > > > >> say to use the transformer but the circuit layout
    > > > > >> was one of the things I was going to try. I
    > > > > >> works as a voltage doubler apart from other
    > > > > >> things... I just need to get the 1200watts per
    > > > > >> channel amplifier I am fixing off our spare
    > > > > >> dining room table and to get my motor back on
    > > > > >> there where I can work on it. It is too cold to
    > > > > >> go down to my workshop these winter evenings, no
    > > > > >> heating down there.
    > > > > >>
    > > > > >> There are some interesting articles on Caduceus
    > > > > >> Coils on the web, have you got an understanding
    > > > > >> of how they are being used in FE applications?
    > > > > >>
    > > > > >> All the best Russel P
    > > > > >> On 3/07/2012 4:06 p.m., Colin Jamieson wrote:
    > > > > >>> Hi Russel, I have for the past month I have
    > > > > >>> wound some turns on a toroid to form a 1:1
    > > > > >>> transformer and used that on the output taking
    > > > > >>> the secondary side to a large cap, because I
    > > > > >>> have only wound a few turns I was hoping that
    > > > > >>> the short wire would be seen as a short but it
    > > > > >>> didn,t happen, maybe there are enough H
    > > > > >>> frequecies there is quite a bit of inductance so
    > > > > >>> the input is not seen as a low resistance. you
    > > > > >>> mention before about a microwave tranformer
    > > > > >>> circuit, I have a microwave transformer and was
    > > > > >>> thinking of connecting that. the sharp on and
    > > > > >>> off pulse being feed to the drive coils would
    > > > > >>> apear as higher frequency than what the
    > > > > >>> transformer was design for eg 50 hertz, to the
    > > > > >>> DC component the transformer would be seen as
    > > > > >>> have a reasonbly high resistance as i would
    > > > > >>> connect it up backwards and maybe the hf part
    > > > > >>> would see it as a shunt. the on time to top of
    > > > > >>> pulse would be in micro seconds so that must
    > > > > >>> seen as hf frequency and must be the same from
    > > > > >>> top to bottom at turn off. cheers Colin
    > > > > >>>
    > > > > >>> --- On *Tue, 3/7/12, Russel Prier
    > > > > >>> /<russelp@>
    > > > > >>>
    > > <http://nz.mc960.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=russelp@>/*
    > > > > >>> wrote:
    > > > > >>>
    > > > > >>>
    > > > > >>> From: Russel Prier <russelp@>
    > > > > >>>
    > > <http://nz.mc960..mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=russelp@>
    > > > > >>> Subject: Re: [adamsmotor] Re: Documents
    > > > > >>> still available
    > > > > >>> To: adamsmotor@yahoogroups.com
    > > <mailto:adamsmotor%40yahoogroups.com>
    > > > > >>>
    > > <http://nz.mc960.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=adamsmotor@yahoogroups.com>
    > > > > >>> Date: Tuesday, 3, July, 2012, 1:18 PM
    > > > > >>>
    > > > > >>>
    > > > > >>>
    > > > > >>> Hi Colin,
    > > > > >>>
    > > > > >>> The star wheel was used to drive the coils
    > > > > >>> directly but it is unsuitable for much
    > > > > >>> current as heating occurs and you get
    > > > > >>> burning of the edges of the contacts.
    > > > > >>> Electronic switching will work fine when you
    > > > > >>> have things right.
    > > > > >>>
    > > > > >>> Russel
    > > > > >>> On 3/07/2012 1:13 p.m., Colin Jamieson wrote:
    > > > > >>>> In the star wheel timing where the
    > > > > >>>> connections on the wheel are only used to
    > > > > >>>> trigger a transistor or fet and not to
    > > > > >>>> supply the drive coils, will that situation
    > > > > >>>> help with the FE as the bemf would be going
    > > > > >>>> to transtor and not back through the star
    > > > > >>>> wheel to source? I have often thought about
    > > > > >>>> going back to the original star wheel. at
    > > > > >>>> the moment Im using optical switching
    > > > > >>>> with slots cut into a star wheel, not the
    > > > > >>>> same but I though optic switcing would be
    > > > > >>>> sharper and it gives me more percise pulse
    > > > > >>>> control. cheers Colin
    > > > > >>>>
    > > > > >>>> --- On *Tue, 3/7/12, Russel Prier
    > > > > >>>> /<russelp@>
    > > > > >>>>
    > > <http://nz.mc960.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=russelp@>/*
    > > > > >>>> wrote:
    > > > > >>>>
    > > > > >>>>
    > > > > >>>> From: Russel Prier
    > > > > >>>> <russelp@>
    > > > > >>>>
    > > <http://nz.mc960..mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=russelp@>
    > > > > >>>> Subject: Re: [adamsmotor] Re: Documents
    > > > > >>>> still available
    > > > > >>>> To: adamsmotor@yahoogroups.com
    > > <mailto:adamsmotor%40yahoogroups.com>
    > > > > >>>>
    > > <http://nz.mc960.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=adamsmotor@yahoogroups.com>
    > > > > >>>> Date: Tuesday, 3, July, 2012, 8:31 AM
    > > > > >>>>
    > > > > >>>>
    > > > > >>>>
    > > > > >>>> Hi Richard,
    > > > > >>>>
    > > > > >>>> Great work, if you can get spark gaps
    > > > > >>>> to work they act as an amplifier to FE
    > > > > >>>> often if you have 2 spark gaps in
    > > > > >>>> series you gain even more. If you have
    > > > > >>>> any of Roberts old plans he preferred
    > > > > >>>> the starwheel drive timing because a
    > > > > >>>> small spark occurred at every switching
    > > > > >>>> which increased the amount of energy he
    > > > > >>>> could get out of the system. The
    > > > > >>>> problem is that the contacts are
    > > > > >>>> burning away and soon become unreliable.
    > > > > >>>> You timing is correct for the motor I
    > > > > >>>> have built.
    > > > > >>>>
    > > > > >>>> Hey dont apologise for chipping in,
    > > > > >>>> this is an open forum and all useful
    > > > > >>>> ideas need to be put on the table for
    > > > > >>>> progress to be made..
    > > > > >>>>
    > > > > >>>> Thanks Russel
    > > > > >>>>
    > > > > >>>> On 2/07/2012 11:49 p.m., geej12 wrote:
    > > > > >>>>> Hi guys,
    > > > > >>>>> Sorry to but in on your conversation,
    > > > > >>>>> but it makes fascinating reading, and
    > > > > >>>>> we all seem to be having similar
    > > > > >>>>> ideas/problems. As for timing of the
    > > > > >>>>> drive pulse, I switch on when the the
    > > > > >>>>> pm poles are directly opposite the
    > > > > >>>>> drive coils (rather inaccurately with
    > > > > >>>>> reed switches). I've also tried
    > > > > >>>>> 'precharging' the core with a pm,
    > > > > >>>>> which gives interesting but (for me)
    > > > > >>>>> erratic results. Separating the input
    > > > > >>>>> and output circuits is obviously
    > > > > >>>>> essential- my latest attempt is with
    > > > > >>>>> caps and a spark gap. I feel the
    > > > > >>>>> combination of magnets, caps and
    > > > > >>>>> sparks seems magic! I'm interested
    > > > > >>>>> that you can measure your voltages so
    > > > > >>>>> easily. My multimeters and
    > > > > >>>>> oscilloscope seem to give different
    > > > > >>>>> almost arbitrary results once things
    > > > > >>>>> get going. I obviously need some
    > > > > >>>>> better kit!
    > > > > >>>>> Keep up the good work!
    > > > > >>>>> Richard
    > > > > >>>>>
    > > > > >>>>> --- In adamsmotor@yahoog when I
    > > > > >>>>> rectify the output through a full wave
    > > > > >>>>> diode bridge the voltage reads a
    > > > > >>>>> steady 66volts but from the capacitor
    > > > > >>>>> reads 130v and will continue to climb,
    > > > > >>>>> the same thing happens when I take the
    > > > > >>>>> output from the secondary of bifillar
    > > > > >>>>> wound drive coil, the voltage even
    > > > > >>>>> goes higher 150volts.
    > > > > >>>>> > Im interested in what you said about
    > > > > >>>>> feeding the output into an inductor,
    > > > > >>>>> what about if the inductor was
    > > > > >>>>> replaced with a transformer and the
    > > > > >>>>> primary was low resistance so it
    > > > > >>>>> looked like a short which would speed
    > > > > >>>>> the motor up and decrease the current,
    > > > > >>>>> just a thought, cheers Colin
    > > > > >>>>> > --- On Mon, 2/7/12, Russel Prier
    > > > > >>>>>
    > > <http://nz.mc960.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=adamsmotor%40yahoogroups.com><russelp@>
    > > > > >>>>>
    > > <http://nz.mc960.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=russelp@>
    > > > > >>>>> wrote:
    > > > > >>>>> >
    > > > > >>>>> >
    > > > > >>>>> > From: Russel Prier > to keep a
    > > > > >>>>> battery or Cap bank up to voltage.
    > > > > >>>>> >
    > > > > >>>>> > You might be right the older Adams
    > > > > >>>>> motor design may have worked as an
    > > > > >>>>> attraction motor because it was not
    > > > > >>>>> selfstarting and that was one of the
    > > > > >>>>> improvements of the thermo motor. The
    > > > > >>>>> second kick which I think is the Lenz
    > > > > >>>>> effect is most useful..... I may have
    > > > > >>>>> made a mistake in my last post
    > > > > >>>>> suggesting that you feed output of the
    > > > > >>>>> motor into a capacitor, This I dont
    > > > > >>>>> think is right, it needs to be an
    > > > > >>>>> inductor of twice the resistance of
    > > > > >>>>> the generator coils. This will work
    > > > > >>>>> in a similar to a capacitor but has a
    > > > > >>>>> different effect in the circuit and
    > > > > >>>>> then from this you feed into a cap or
    > > > > >>>>> cap bank.. I think it is because an
    > > > > >>>>> inductor stores a charge as a magnetic
    > > > > >>>>> field setp up around the coil and and
    > > > > >>>>> a capacitor stores a charge as ions in
    > > > > >>>>> the chemical composition of the cap.
    > > > > >>>>> (The inductor may attract more energy
    > > > > >>>>> into the circuit as well) Maybe
    > > > > >>>>> because it is an inductive charge we
    > > > > >>>>> are looking to recover from our coils
    > > > > >>>>> this will work better. As I mentioned in
    > > > > >>>>> > a previous email I have lots of
    > > > > >>>>> pieces of info that I havent got
    > > > > >>>>> sorted out correctly in my mind yet.
    > > > > >>>>> One thing Robert was very definite
    > > > > >>>>> about, the power we are getting out
    > > > > >>>>> of our coils does not look like DC
    > > > > >>>>> with volts and CURRENT but is just
    > > > > >>>>> volts to start with but later on when
    > > > > >>>>> it has gone through a cap shows up
    > > > > >>>>> with current and can be used like DC
    > > > > >>>>> but is not exactly the same. This is
    > > > > >>>>> why people miss it and dont realise
    > > > > >>>>> they have it because they dont collect
    > > > > >>>>> it the right way or try to use it in
    > > > > >>>>> the right way.. People are looking for
    > > > > >>>>> Radiant energy or Aetheric energy but
    > > > > >>>>> are just looking for DC which is
    > > > > >>>>> ridiculous when by nature of the name
    > > > > >>>>> of it it is something quite different
    > > > > >>>>> so when it does not show up as they
    > > > > >>>>> expect in there meters and you cannot
    > > > > >>>>> meter it in that form they give up or
    > > > > >>>>> look elsewhere, so if you are showing
    > > > > >>>>> a voltage without any current you have
    > > > > >>>>> it but then need to learn how to use
    > > > > >>>>> it. I hope this makes sense, I liken
    > > > > >>>>> it to
    > > > > >>>>> > static electricity but it is not
    > > > > >>>>> necessarily that either, it is just
    > > > > >>>>> something different to what we ware
    > > > > >>>>> inclined to expect in its
    > > > > >>>>> characteristics and behavoiur.
    > > > > >>>>> >
    > > > > >>>>> > All the best Russel
    > > > > >>>>> >
    > > > > >>>>> >
    > > > > >>>>> > On 1/07/2012 9:41 p.m., Colin
    > > > > >>>>> Jamieson wrote:
    > > > > >>>>> >
    > > > > >>>>> >
    > > > > >>>>> >
    > > > > >>>>> >
    > > > > >>>>> >
    > > > > >>>>> >
    > > > > >>>>> >
    > > > > >>>>> > Thanks Russel for your prompt reply,
    > > > > >>>>> Im using a switching circuit at the
    > > > > >>>>> moment where by I take voltage off the
    > > > > >>>>> secondary winding of my biffilar drive
    > > > > >>>>> coils, the moment the drive pulse is
    > > > > >>>>> switched off the secondary circuit is
    > > > > >>>>> switch on and charges a cap. I will
    > > > > >>>>> need to do the same with my gen coils,
    > > > > >>>>> when my gen coils are shorted my
    > > > > >>>>> driving current drops and my motor
    > > > > >>>>> speeds up so I want to take advantage
    > > > > >>>>> of that, I read some where if the gen
    > > > > >>>>> coils are switched in during the time
    > > > > >>>>> of the falling fields, eg when the pm
    > > > > >>>>> have past the mid point of the gen
    > > > > >>>>> cores this will happen, Im yet to try
    > > > > >>>>> it. When the Adams motor gets into
    > > > > >>>>> resonance is the the same as resonance
    > > > > >>>>> in a LC circuit where the coil
    > > > > >>>>> inductance and capacitance between the
    > > > > >>>>> windings of the adams motor coil,
    > > > > >>>>> becuase if it is shouldn,t the current
    > > > > >>>>> input be zero as the resistance is at
    > > > > >>>>> max during resonance. I have notice
    > > > > >>>>> that when I start up my Adams motor
    > > > > >>>>> the current goes down as it speeds up at
    > > > > >>>>> > a constant decline then suddenly
    > > > > >>>>> shoots up a bit then finally drops to
    > > > > >>>>> a low level, is this then at resonance
    > > > > >>>>> or just a sweet spot, regards Colin
    > > > > >>>>> >
    > > > > >>>>> > --- On Sat, 30/6/12, Russel Prier
    > > > > >>>>>
    > > <http://nz.mc960.mail..yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=russelp@><russelp@>
    > > > > >>>>>
    > > <http://nz....mc960.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=russelp@>
    > > > > >>>>> wrote:
    > > > > >>>>> >
    > > > > >>>>> >
    > > > > >>>>> > From: Russel Prier <russelp@>
    > > > > >>>>>
    > > <http://nz.mc960...mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=russelp@>
    > > > > >>>>> > Subject: Re: [adamsmotor] Re:
    > > > > >>>>> Documents still available
    > > > > >>>>> > To: <ru numbers of windings to
    > > > > >>>>> achieve a very low resistance with a
    > > > > >>>>> high capacitance coil. Roberts motors
    > > > > >>>>> work the other way a high resistance
    > > > > >>>>> high inductance setup as you are
    > > > > >>>>> looking for voltage not current. A
    > > > > >>>>> capacitor converts the voltage to
    > > > > >>>>> useful current and causes the amps to
    > > > > >>>>> appear in the circuit. The battery in
    > > > > >>>>> a bedini circuit does the same sort of
    > > > > >>>>> thing.
    > > > > >>>>> >
    > > > > >>>>> > Robert had tested very many coil
    > > > > >>>>> arrangements and was totally convinced
    > > > > >>>>> that there was no advantage in a
    > > > > >>>>> bifilar arrangement.
    > > > > >>>>> >
    > > > > >>>>> > All the best Russel
    > > > > >>>>> >
    > > > > >>>>> >
    > > > > >>>>> > On 27/06/2012 5:05 p.m., jasmen52 wrote:
    > > > > >>>>> >
    > > > > >>>>> >
    > > > > >>>>> >
    > > > > >>>>> > Russel, is it possible to get a good
    > > > > >>>>> percentage of overunity using a
    > > > > >>>>> traditional Adams motor and are
    > > > > >>>>> bifilar wound driving coils any
    > > > > >>>>> advantage. cheers Colin
    > > > > >>>>> >
    > > > > >>>>> > --- In
    > > > > >>>>>
    > > <http://nz.mc960.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=adamsmotor%40yahoogroups.com>http://nz.mc960.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=finedm@
    > > > > >>>>>
    > > <http://nz.mc960.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=adamsmotor%40yahoogroups.com>>
    > > > > >>>>> > > >>> Description : Maimariati Post
    > > > > >>>>> #199 (Key Points
    > > > > >>>>> > > >>> Summarized)
    > > > > >>>>> > > >>>
    > > > > >>>>> > > >>> You can access this file at
    > > > > >>>>> the URL:
    > > > > >>>>> > > >>>
    > > > > >>>>>
    > > http://groups.yahoo..com/group/adamsmotor/files/Summary%20of%20Maimariati%20Post%\
    > > <http://groups.yahoo..com/group/adamsmotor/files/Summary%20of%20Maimariati%20Post%>>
    > > > >>>>>
    > > <http://groups.yahoo..com/group/adamsmotor/files/Summary%20of%20Maimariati%20Post%>>
    > > > > >>>>> > >>> 20199.doc
    > > > > >>>>> > > >>> <
    > > > > >>>>
    > > > > >>
    > > > > >>
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    > > > > >
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  • Russel Prier
    Hi Colin, Very breifly the motor works the same but and as the magnet passes the iron pole peice there is a magnetic reversal takes place but because there is
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      Hi Colin,

      Very breifly the motor works the same but and as the magnet passes the iron pole peice there is a magnetic reversal takes place but because there is more energy in the coil because of the applied voltage on attaction there is a much greater switch to repulsion and bigger back EMF pulse as well.  This is a very brief summary of the description John Bedini gave as to why he runs his motor generators this way but I will have to reread the book to give you a more detailed descritoin of what is happening in the motor.

      Regards
      Russel


      On 3/02/2013 9:10 a.m., Colin Jamieson wrote:
       

      Hi Russel, I've been thinking about what you said in your email about running the motor in attraction mode, I don,t quite get it. the magnets on the rotor are attracted to the iron cores of the drive coils and then at register a current is supplied to produce opposite poles for repulsion or just enough current to counteract the sticking point. If current was to be supplied to drive coils to caused the magnets on rotor to be attracted, then current would have stop at register and then current  reversed to stop magnets sticking to core, or the drive coils cores would have to be a nonmagnetic material not iron, Can you please explain the procedure for attraction mode. kind regards Colin

      --- On Fri, 1/2/13, Russel Prier <russelp@...> wrote:

      From: Russel Prier <russelp@...


      Hi Colin,

      Thanks for your new yer good wishes.  I hope you have a great year as well and all the other experimenters too.  Your experimenting is going well.  Just before Christmas i downloaded Bedinis new book on the SG and SSG motor of his.  One of the interesting things that came out of it was that running the motor side if it in attraction mode instead of repulsion mode gave a much higher BEF spike.  It is quite possible Robert was also doing this because if it worked he would have done it as he tried every concievable combination.  The Thermo motor was run in repulsion but it does not mean that the Adams motor was run that way.  By operating in repulsion mode yu can have a self starting motor but the Adams motor was not a self starter so it is very likely that is was run in attraction mode.. 

      If you are on the right track and it sounds like you are the output is probably a mixture of BEMF and radiant energy.  This will change the chemical makeup internally of caps and batteries and improve there perfomance over time.  It will also strengthen the magnets.  Negative energy as opposed to positive energy is constructive as opposed to destructive and also has many health benifits.  Positive energy has many health risks as people are finding out with Cancers and Luekemia's due to the damage to cells it causes particullarly AC which causes the water molecules to spin constantly and makes it difficult for cells to process water through the membrain walls where they have to pass through in a particular orientation.  DC and pulsed DC is less problematical to human life. 

      When the air is very dry caps in good condition can self charge from static electricity in the air or eviroment but this sounds like it is very much related to the type of charge you are getting from your motor.
      This gets more interesting by the email, Great work.

      Regards and best wishes,
      Russel


      On 1/02/2013 5:12 p.m., Colin Jamieson wrote:
       

      Hi Russel,hope the new year is turning out ok for you, have you had a chance to check out that circuit of mine? you have probably been too busy, I thought I would touch base with and tell you some of the things that have happenned. I now am using a unregulated power supply and boy there is a major drop in drive current. Also I have bemf gain, the input to the Adams motor is dc so I can accurately measure the input current and voltage, I'm using the back emf to drive a 1 watt bulb and the input is .809watt, when the bulb is lighted the voltage is still climbing so bemf is a bit over 1 watt which is slightly more than I'm getting from my Gen coils but at the moment there is only 2 gen coils. The dc converter I'm using to step up drive voltage, the output transistors of it get quite warm and they both have desent size heatsinks so there would be a bit of wastage there, the converter is suppose to be 94% efficient. The switching Fet of adams motor which the converter supplies is cool and the switching Fet has no heatsink at all.
       The cap that gets charged from the bemf seems to recharge itself, when I stop the motor and power is disconnected the bulb lights up on and off for about 20mins.
      A lot of articles I have read about the Adams motor talk about how gravity is involved and weight getting less, I notice that when water is drained from a sink or container it always goes in anticlock spiral, my adams motor goes clockwise so I thought I would make it spin anticlock, well the speed increase by 200 rpm but I think because the rotor now sees the gen coils first that maybe the reason, cheers Colin


      --- On Fri, 30/11/12, Russel Prier <russelp@...> wrote:

      From: Russel Prier <russelp@...>
      Subject: Re: [adamsmotor] Adams motor
      To: adamsmotor@yahoogroups.com
      Date: Friday, 30, November, 2012, 10:13 PM



      Wow that is great news,  I am going to have to crank up my coil winder again.   The extra energy is often described as gravitational energy and so a sensitive person would be likely to detect a change when they walk in the room.  I dont think it is gravitational energy but comes from the same source as gravity. 
      I can imagine it is aesy to wreck cheap meters measuring voltages when you have flyback voltages around because they can go very high so fast that you need a really fast scope to even see them.  My 60 Meg scope will barely catch them at times..  I have blown up my frequency counter also measuring the pulse rate feeding into a battery as for some reason the battery voltage on a 12 volt lead acid battery went to over 100 volts in a matter of seconds while I was watching something else and the counter was fried.  It was some sort of surface charge on the battery and that was with a Bedini Motor.

      Have you seen this by John Bedini I am thinking about buying it to  just to get a better understanding of the things involved but what John was working on is slightly different to what Robert was working on and you can confuse yourself sometimes.  http://bedinisg.com/bedinisg.pdf

      All the best
      Russel


      On30/11/2012 9:37 p.m., Colin Jamieson wrote:
       

      Hi Russel I thought I would touch base with you. I believe I have got OU. I have 2 output circuits from my adams motor, one from the gen coils driving a load and the other from flyback circuit. The output from the flyback circuit is driving a load at 33ma at 26volts, that is .858watts, the input is 61ma at 12.6volts which in my book is .768watts. That's not counting the current draw from gen coils driving 27 leds. I will do some readings from gen coils to work out the power from them, I have stuffed 2 multimeters but they were only cheap ones I my have accidently shorted cap out. A funny thought I had the motor running a couple of days ago and a young kid went into the room and said he felt a strange tingling sensation and he said he felt his hair go strange, I haven't notice it my self, regards Colin

      --- On Mon, 19/11/12, Russel Prier <russelp@...> wrote:

      From: Russel Prier <russelp@...>
      Subject: Re: [adamsmotor] Adams motor
      To: adamsmotor@yahoogroups.com
      Date: Monday, 19, November, 2012, 2:13 PM



      HiColin,

      I always thought it was the drive coils first then gen coils because there are interactions going on in the magnets after they have been pulsed which is picked up by the generator coils as excess energy but I have not tested this and I say try both ways.

      Russel P
      On19/11/2012 1:50 p.m., Colin Jamieson wrote:
       

      HiRussel I have a question for you, on the drawings done by Mr Adams showing the drive and generator coils, is the rotor spinning clockwise or anticlock?. the reason Im asking is I need to know if the magnets see the gen coils first or the drive coils because if the magnets see the drive coil first by the time the magnets get to gen coils the current to drive coils would be just switching off and the sharp pulse could have an affect, if the magnets see the gen coils first then there is an attraction to gen cores first then passes, if there a short or load theres no sticking point. There is a greater distance between gen coil and drive pulse if the gen coils are seen first compared to the time if drive coils were seen first.What do you think. looking forward to hearing from you, regards Colin
      --- On Mon,5/11/12, Russel Prier <russelp@...> wrote:

      From: Russel Prier <russelp@...>
      Subject: Re: [adamsmotor] Re: Documents still available
      To: adamsmotor@yahoogroups.com
      Date: Monday, 5, November, 2012, 9:42 PM



      HiColin,

      That is quite a setup you have built up there.  There has been a lot of trial and error going on there to come up with that arrangement Wow.  Where did you get the big toriod core from?  I have never seen anyone looping between the primary and secondary circuits in bifilla coils before.  You have some unique ideas here in this circuit.  There is so much going on in there it will take a bit of thinking about..

      Thanks for your input it is quite different and most interesting.
      Russel

      On5/11/2012 9:14 p.m., Colin Jamieson wrote:
       

      HiRussel, I have attached a circuit for you to look at. I haven,t attached my switching circuits but will do so later when I create a folder

      --- On Mon,5/11/12, Russel Prier <russelp@...> wrote:

      From: Russel Prier <russelp@...>
      Subject: Re: [adamsmotor] Re: Documents still available
      To: adamsmotor@yahoogroups.com
      Date: Monday, 5, November, 2012, 7:31 AM



      HiColin,

      Can you put a schematic sketch of your layout up,  you can load it into the files section and create your own folder to put it in..  Your description is a little confusing,  but sounds very interesting.

      Thanks
      Russel
      On4/11/2012 9:46 p.m., Colin Jamieson wrote:
       

      HiRussel its me again, I mentioned before that I thought I had a couple of times got OU but the point is I,m not sure, if I was OU by a large amount I would know, but by a small amount, not sure... At the moment I,m lighting up 30 led individually, they are not in series.. I also have 4 neons glowing which get quit hot, these are between primary and secondary of drive coils. With all these connected to the output the drive current has gone done not up. the mosfets are very cold to the touch, a lot colder than room temperature.. I do get a reading across output caps but they don,t make sense. I appreciated your reasoning, regards Colin

      --- On Thu,1/11/12, Russel Prier <russelp@...> wrote:

      From: Russel Prier <russelp@...>
      Subject: Re: [adamsmotor] Re: Documents still available
      To: adamsmotor@yahoogroups.com
      Date: Thursday, 1, November, 2012, 8:59 PM



      Yesthat guy got ridiculed for his claims and disappeared promptly. I tried to get in contact with him directly but had no luck but his claims were consistent with many things Robert had told me directly so I did not doubt what he was saying  You can read it at Message 199 in the Adamsmotor group messages.  I just dont agree with him about Alien that bit is not correct..

      Russel
      On1/11/2012 3:38 p..m., Colin Jamieson wrote:
       

      HiRussel, yes I am using neo magnets and my input voltage is 100volts, you mention previously you had received an email from people in the states who were getting great results. Do you have any info on what they are doing and do they belong to any online group? regards Colin

      --- On Wed,31/10/12, Russel Prier <russelp@...> wrote:

      From: Russel Prier <russelp@...>
      Subject: Re: [adamsmotor] Re: Documents still available
      To: adamsmotor@yahoogroups.com
      Date: Wednesday, 31, October, 2012, 10:42 PM



      HiColin,  There are two sorts of Adams motors and they are quite different in there operation,  The close air gap is important to the thermomotor  but I think a larger airgap may be beneficial in the older design.  you want to see the thing motoring with very little total or average input power so you may have to play around altering the airgap as one of the variables to achieve this.  As a switched reluctance motor and collecting the back EMF spike it should just about be self-running.  If you can achieve this with the generator coils left open (not used) then when you connect them up you should be able to go OU but you will have to re-fine tune the drive side again but you should then get more feedback on the drive side as well.  One of the motors of Roberts I had running in my workshop did not have any genera

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