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  • Wardhog Dog
    Good day all I am new to this group. I am only starting to learn about this amazing motor now. Can any body tell me where to find information that will putt me
    Message 1 of 12 , Jan 12, 2011
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      Good day all

      I am new to this group. I am only starting to learn about this amazing motor now. Can any body tell me where to find information that will putt me on the right track? I have a good knowledge of electronics. And I am a qualified electrician.
    • Russel Prier
      Hi, Sorry, there used to be a lot of genuine Adams motor info around but it seems to have disappeared lately. I will try to put together some pictures and
      Message 2 of 12 , Jan 13, 2011
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        Hi,

        Sorry, there used to be a lot of genuine Adams motor info around but it seems to have disappeared lately.  I will try to put together some pictures and info from the patent that Robert Adams out into the public domain to be available to everyone.  There was also a lot of good info the Aethmogen website which has been suspended as the fees have not been paid for it to continue on the web.  Tim Harwood never really bothered to follow What Robert was teaching and was busy doing his own thing calling it an adams motor which is was not and never achieved good results with it either.  Robert achieved 8 times more power out than in with his basic design then through experimenting got it much better than that then went on to develope What he called the Thermo  Motor from the basic Adams motor which produced serious power with very minimal input power.  He had nearly finished a Megawatt motor when he had a stroke and died.  I have seen this motor and was helping him finish it.  I am a machinist not and electronics technician so lack a little on that side of my understanding.  I dont know if I can find a copy of the original patent as I have moved a couple of times in recent years and need to sort out a lot of papers but will try.  I will need a little time to get this sorted though.

        All the best Russel Prier

        On 12/01/2011 10:31 p.m., Wardhog Dog wrote:
         

        Good day all

        I am new to this group. I am only starting to learn about this amazing motor now. Can any body tell me where to find information that will putt me on the right track? I have a good knowledge of electronics. And I am a qualified electrician.

      • Michael Scott
        Hi Russel, This would be tremendously helpful, if you could do any of that. As you say, stuff is very thin on the ground now about Adams motors Hope to see
        Message 3 of 12 , Jan 13, 2011
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          Hi Russel,
          This would be tremendously helpful, if you could do any of that. As you say, stuff is very thin on the ground now about Adams motors
          Hope to see something later then.
          Many kind regards
          Mike

          --- On Thu, 13/1/11, Russel Prier <russelp@...> wrote:

          From: Russel Prier <russelp@...>
          Subject: Re: [adamsmotor] Adams motor
          To: adamsmotor@yahoogroups.com
          Date: Thursday, 13 January, 2011, 19:37

           
          Hi,

          Sorry, there used to be a lot of genuine Adams motor info around but it seems to have disappeared lately.  I will try to put together some pictures and info from the patent that Robert Adams out into the public domain to be available to everyone.  There was also a lot of good info the Aethmogen website which has been suspended as the fees have not been paid for it to continue on the web.  Tim Harwood never really bothered to follow What Robert was teaching and was busy doing his own thing calling it an adams motor which is was not and never achieved good results with it either.  Robert achieved 8 times more power out than in with his basic design then through experimenting got it much better than that then went on to develope What he called the Thermo  Motor from the basic Adams motor which produced serious power with very minimal input power.  He had nearly finished a Megawatt motor when he had a stroke and died.  I have seen this motor and was helping him finish it.  I am a machinist not and electronics technician so lack a little on that side of my understanding.  I dont know if I can find a copy of the original patent as I have moved a couple of times in recent years and need to sort out a lot of papers but will try.  I will need a little time to get this sorted though.

          All the best Russel Prier

          On 12/01/2011 10:31 p.m., Wardhog Dog wrote:
           
          Good day all

          I am new to this group. I am only starting to learn about this amazing motor now. Can any body tell me where to find information that will putt me on the right track? I have a good knowledge of electronics. And I am a qualified electrician.


        • Wardhog Dog
          Good day to everyone in this group. I need some feedback about the Adams motor. Is there anybody how can chare some of the designs with the group. Especially
          Message 4 of 12 , Jun 14, 2011
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            Good day to everyone in this group. I need some feedback about the Adams motor. Is there anybody how can chare some of the designs with the group. Especially how to get to a higher voltage from a 12 Volt batteries. I need to get the voltage up to 360 volt without drawing to mush amps from the battery. I only need to draw the small amount of amps that i need to pulls the magnet. I am also looking for a circuit that will be able to time for an adjustable time when it is switched by an optical switch. "When it is pulsed it will be switched on for as long as it is set to stay on. "
          • Colin Jamieson
            Hi Russel, just when I thought I had figured out a few things I realize I know sweet fanny all about zero energy, but I have found out that when you capture
            Message 5 of 12 , Mar 1, 2013
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            Hi Russel, just when I thought I had figured out a few things I realize I know sweet fanny all about zero energy, but I have found out that when you capture the bemf and drawn it off with the right resistance the motor goes a lot faster and draws less current, if drawn off to quickly the opposite happens. I'm using the bemf to drive a 1 watt lamp and the voltage still climbs to 105volts, I have also taken the secondary of each driving coil to light up two 1.5 watt led bulbs, the voltage across those bulbs is 108.9volts, their working voltage is 110v so they are not quite using 1.5 watts. I believe I can,t get any more the drive circuit and by the way input is .8watts. I need to concentrate on my gen coils output, have attached a picture of the setup. My input power supply is 17.6v. My motor is spinning at half the rpm it was before but my output is greater?. cheers

            --- On Sun, 3/2/13, Russel Prier <russelp@.....nz> wrote:

            From: Russel Prier <russelp@...>
            Subject: Re: [adamsmotor] Adams motor
            To: adamsmotor@yahoogroups.com
            Date: Sunday, 3, February, 2013, 10:19 PM



            Hi Colin,

            Very breifly the motor works the same but and as the magnet passes the iron pole peice there is a magnetic reversal takes place but because there is more energy in the coil because of the applied voltage on attaction there is a much greater switch to repulsion and bigger back EMF pulse as well.  This is a very brief summary of the description John Bedini gave as to why he runs his motor generators this way but I will have to reread the book to give you a more detailed descritoin of what is happening in the motor.

            Regards
            Russel


            On 3/02/2013 9:10 a.m., Colin Jamieson wrote:
             

            Hi Russel, I've been thinking about what you said in your email about running the motor in attraction mode, I don,t quite get it. the magnets on the rotor are attracted to the iron cores of the drive coils and then at register a current is supplied to produce opposite poles for repulsion or just enough current to counteract the sticking point. If current was to be supplied to drive coils to caused the magnets on rotor to be attracted, then current would have stop at register and then current  reversed to stop magnets sticking to core, or the drive coils cores would have to be a nonmagnetic material not iron, Can you please explain the procedure for attraction mode. kind regards Colin

            --- On Fri, 1/2/13, Russel Prier <russelp@...> wrote:

            From: Russel Prier <russelp@...


            Hi Colin,

            Thanks for your new yer good wishes.  I hope you have a great year as well and all the other experimenters too.  Your experimenting is going well.  Just before Christmas i downloaded Bedinis new book on the SG and SSG motor of his.  One of the interesting things that came out of it was that running the motor side if it in attraction mode instead of repulsion mode gave a much higher BEF spike.  It is quite possible Robert was also doing this because if it worked he would have done it as he tried every concievable combination.  The Thermo motor was run in repulsion but it does not mean that the Adams motor was run that way.  By operating in repulsion mode yu can have a self starting motor but the Adams motor was not a self starter so it is very likely that is was run in attraction mode.. 

            If you are on the right track and it sounds like you are the output is probably a mixture of BEMF and radiant energy.  This will change the chemical makeup internally of caps and batteries and improve there perfomance over time.  It will also strengthen the magnets.  Negative energy as opposed to positive energy is constructive as opposed to destructive and also has many health benifits.  Positive energy has many health risks as people are finding out with Cancers and Luekemia's due to the damage to cells it causes particullarly AC which causes the water molecules to spin constantly and makes it difficult for cells to process water through the membrain walls where they have to pass through in a particular orientation.  DC and pulsed DC is less problematical to human life. 

            When the air is very dry caps in good condition can self charge from static electricity in the air or eviroment but this sounds like it is very much related to the type of charge you are getting from your motor.
            This gets more interesting by the email, Great work.

            Regards and best wishes,
            Russel


            On 1/02/2013 5:12 p.m., Colin Jamieson wrote:
             

            Hi Russel,hope the new year is turning out ok for you, have you had a chance to check out that circuit of mine? you have probably been too busy, I thought I would touch base with and tell you some of the things that have happenned. I now am using a unregulated power supply and boy there is a major drop in drive current. Also I have bemf gain, the input to the Adams motor is dc so I can accurately measure the input current and voltage, I'm using the back emf to drive a 1 watt bulb and the input is .809watt, when the bulb is lighted the voltage is still climbing so bemf is a bit over 1 watt which is slightly more than I'm getting from my Gen coils but at the moment there is only 2 gen coils. The dc converter I'm using to step up drive voltage, the output transistors of it get quite warm and they both have desent size heatsinks so there would be a bit of wastage there, the converter is suppose to be 94% efficient. The switching Fet of adams motor which the converter supplies is cool and the switching Fet has no heatsink at all.
             The cap that gets charged from the bemf seems to recharge itself, when I stop the motor and power is disconnected the bulb lights up on and off for about 20mins.
            A lot of articles I have read about the Adams motor talk about how gravity is involved and weight getting less, I notice that when water is drained from a sink or container it always goes in anticlock spiral, my adams motor goes clockwise so I thought I would make it spin anticlock, well the speed increase by 200 rpm but I think because the rotor now sees the gen coils first that maybe the reason, cheers Colin


            --- On Fri, 30/11/12, Russel Prier <russelp@...> wrote:

            From: Russel Prier <russelp@...>
            Subject: Re: [adamsmotor] Adams motor
            To: adamsmotor@yahoogroups.com
            Date: Friday, 30, November, 2012, 10:13 PM



            Wow that is great news,  I am going to have to crank up my coil winder again.   The extra energy is often described as gravitational energy and so a sensitive person would be likely to detect a change when they walk in the room.  I dont think it is gravitational energy but comes from the same source as gravity. 
            I can imagine it is aesy to wreck cheap meters measuring voltages when you have flyback voltages around because they can go very high so fast that you need a really fast scope to even see them.  My 60 Meg scope will barely catch them at times..  I have blown up my frequency counter also measuring the pulse rate feeding into a battery as for some reason the battery voltage on a 12 volt lead acid battery went to over 100 volts in a matter of seconds while I was watching something else and the counter was fried.  It was some sort of surface charge on the battery and that was with a Bedini Motor.

            Have you seen this by John Bedini I am thinking about buying it to  just to get a better understanding of the things involved but what John was working on is slightly different to what Robert was working on and you can confuse yourself sometimes.  http://bedinisg.com/bedinisg.pdf

            All the best
            Russel


            On30/11/2012 9:37 p.m., Colin Jamieson wrote:
             

            Hi Russel I thought I would touch base with you. I believe I have got OU. I have 2 output circuits from my adams motor, one from the gen coils driving a load and the other from flyback circuit. The output from the flyback circuit is driving a load at 33ma at 26volts, that is .858watts, the input is 61ma at 12.6volts which in my book is .768watts. That's not counting the current draw from gen coils driving 27 leds. I will do some readings from gen coils to work out the power from them, I have stuffed 2 multimeters but they were only cheap ones I my have accidently shorted cap out. A funny thought I had the motor running a couple of days ago and a young kid went into the room and said he felt a strange tingling sensation and he said he felt his hair go strange, I haven't notice it my self, regards Colin

            --- On Mon, 19/11/12, Russel Prier <russelp@...> wrote:

            From: Russel Prier <russelp@...>
            Subject: Re: [adamsmotor] Adams motor
            To: adamsmotor@yahoogroups.com
            Date: Monday, 19, November, 2012, 2:13 PM



            HiColin,

            I always thought it was the drive coils first then gen coils because there are interactions going on in the magnets after they have been pulsed which is picked up by the generator coils as excess energy but I have not tested this and I say try both ways.

            Russel P
            On19/11/2012 1:50 p.m., Colin Jamieson wrote:
             

            HiRussel I have a question for you, on the drawings done by Mr Adams showing the drive and generator coils, is the rotor spinning clockwise or anticlock?. the reason Im asking is I need to know if the magnets see the gen coils first or the drive coils because if the magnets see the drive coil first by the time the magnets get to gen coils the current to drive coils would be just switching off and the sharp pulse could have an affect, if the magnets see the gen coils first then there is an attraction to gen cores first then passes, if there a short or load theres no sticking point. There is a greater distance between gen coil and drive pulse if the gen coils are seen first compared to the time if drive coils were seen first.What do you think. looking forward to hearing from you, regards Colin
            --- On Mon,5/11/12, Russel Prier <russelp@...> wrote:

            From: Russel Prier <russelp@...>
            Subject: Re: [adamsmotor] Re: Documents still available
            To: adamsmotor@yahoogroups.com
            Date: Monday, 5, November, 2012, 9:42 PM



            HiColin,

            That is quite a setup you have built up there.  There has been a lot of trial and error going on there to come up with that arrangement Wow.  Where did you get the big toriod core from?  I have never seen anyone looping between the primary and secondary circuits in bifilla coils before.  You have some unique ideas here in this circuit.  There is so much going on in there it will take a bit of thinking about..

            Thanks for your input it is quite different and most interesting.
            Russel

            On5/11/2012 9:14 p.m., Colin Jamieson wrote:
             

            HiRussel, I have attached a circuit for you to look at. I haven,t attached my switching circuits but will do so later when I create a folder

            --- On Mon,5/11/12, Russel Prier <russelp@...> wrote:

            From: Russel Prier <russelp@...>
            Subject: Re: [adamsmotor] Re: Documents still available
            To: adamsmotor@yahoogroups.com
            Date: Monday, 5, November, 2012, 7:31 AM



            HiColin,

            Can you put a schematic sketch of your layout up,  you can load it into the files section and create your own folder to put it in..  Your description is a little confusing,  but sounds very interesting.

            Thanks
            Russel
            On4/11/2012 9:46 p.m., Colin Jamieson wrote:
             

            HiRussel its me again, I mentioned before that I thought I had a couple of times got OU but the point is I,m not sure, if I was OU by a large amount I would know, but by a small amount, not sure... At the moment I,m lighting up 30 led individually, they are not in series.. I also have 4 neons glowing which get quit hot, these are between primary and secondary of drive coils. With all these connected to the output the drive current has gone done not up. the mosfets are very cold to the touch, a lot colder than room temperature.. I do get a reading across output caps but they don,t make sense. I appreciated your reasoning, regards Colin

            --- On Thu,1/11/12, Russel Prier <russelp@...> wrote:

            From: Russel Prier <russelp@...>
            Subject: Re: [adamsmotor] Re: Documents still available
            To: adamsmotor@yahoogroups.com
            Date: Thursday, 1, November, 2012, 8:59 PM



            Yesthat guy got ridiculed for his claims and disappeared promptly. I tried to get in contact with him directly but had no luck but his claims were consistent with many things Robert had told me directly so I did not doubt what he was saying  You can read it at Message 199 in the Adamsmotor group messages.  I just dont agree with him about Alien that bit is not correct..

            Russel
            On1/11/2012 3:38 p..m., Colin Jamieson wrote:
             

            HiRussel, yes I am using neo magnets and my input voltage is 100volts, you mention previously you had received an email from people in the states who were getting great results. Do you have any info on what they are doing and do they belong to any online group? regards Colin

            --- On Wed,31/10/12, Russel Prier <russelp@...> wrote:

            From: Russel Prier <russelp@...>
            Subject: Re: [adamsmotor] Re: Documents still available
            To: adamsmotor@yahoogroups.com
            Date: Wednesday, 31, October, 2012, 10:42 PM



            HiColin,  There are two sorts of Adams motors and they are quite different in there operation,  The close air gap is important to the thermomotor  but I think a larger airgap may be beneficial in the older design.  you want to see the thing motoring with very little total or average input power so you may have to play around altering the airgap as one of the variables to achieve this.  As a switched reluctance motor and collecting the back EMF spike it should just about be self-running.  If you can achieve this with the generator coils left open (not used) then when you connect them up you should be able to go OU but you will have to re-fine tune the drive side again but you should then get more feedback on the drive side as well.  One of the motors of Roberts I had running in my workshop did not have any generator coils, just BEMF, (I think it is a while since I saw that motor) it was just built as an efficient Switched Reluctance motor but when they loaded it up it then kept the batteries fully charged and had them boiling in an overcharged situation...

            Are you running neo magnets on this motor,  if so you will need quite a bit of power (voltage) to overcome the lockup these very powerful magnets cause.  Robert kept the coil cores quite small on the older motors thus they did not need a lot of power to turn them and he wasnt worried about strong magnets either to st

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          • Russel Prier
            Hi Colin, That is an awsome result, Cant wait to see you start building on what you are learning and successfully scaling it up to where you have something
            Message 6 of 12 , Mar 2, 2013
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              Hi Colin,

              That is an awsome result,  Cant wait to see you start building on what you are learning and successfully scaling it up to where you have something you can really use.

              Great work
              Russel

              On 2/03/2013 3:02 p.m., Colin Jamieson wrote:
               

              Hi Russel, just when I thought I had figured out a few things I realize I know sweet fanny all about zero energy, but I have found out that when you capture the bemf and drawn it off with the right resistance the motor goes a lot faster and draws less current, if drawn off to quickly the opposite happens. I'm using the bemf to drive a 1 watt lamp and the voltage still climbs to 105volts, I have also taken the secondary of each driving coil to light up two 1.5 watt led bulbs, the voltage across those bulbs is 108.9volts, their working voltage is 110v so they are not quite using 1.5 watts. I believe I can,t get any more the drive circuit and by the way input is .8watts. I need to concentrate on my gen coils output, have attached a picture of the setup. My input power supply is 17.6v. My motor is spinning at half the rpm it was before but my output is greater?. cheers

              --- On Sun, 3/2/13, Russel Prier <russelp@.....nz> wrote:

              From: Russel Prier <russelp@...>
              Subject: Re: [adamsmotor] Adams motor
              To: adamsmotor@yahoogroups.com
              Date: Sunday, 3, February, 2013, 10:19 PM



              Hi Colin,

              Very breifly the motor works the same but and as the magnet passes the iron pole peice there is a magnetic reversal takes place but because there is more energy in the coil because of the applied voltage on attaction there is a much greater switch to repulsion and bigger back EMF pulse as well.  This is a very brief summary of the description John Bedini gave as to why he runs his motor generators this way but I will have to reread the book to give you a more detailed descritoin of what is happening in the motor.

              Regards
              Russel


              On 3/02/2013 9:10 a.m., Colin Jamieson wrote:
               

              Hi Russel, I've been thinking about what you said in your email about running the motor in attraction mode, I don,t quite get it. the magnets on the rotor are attracted to the iron cores of the drive coils and then at register a current is supplied to produce opposite poles for repulsion or just enough current to counteract the sticking point. If current was to be supplied to drive coils to caused the magnets on rotor to be attracted, then current would have stop at register and then current  reversed to stop magnets sticking to core, or the drive coils cores would have to be a nonmagnetic material not iron, Can you please explain the procedure for attraction mode. kind regards Colin

              --- On Fri, 1/2/13, Russel Prier <russelp@...> wrote:

              From: Russel Prier <russelp@...


              Hi Colin,

              Thanks for your new yer good wishes.  I hope you have a great year as well and all the other experimenters too.  Your experimenting is going well.  Just before Christmas i downloaded Bedinis new book on the SG and SSG motor of his.  One of the interesting things that came out of it was that running the motor side if it in attraction mode instead of repulsion mode gave a much higher BEF spike.  It is quite possible Robert was also doing this because if it worked he would have done it as he tried every concievable combination.  The Thermo motor was run in repulsion but it does not mean that the Adams motor was run that way.  By operating in repulsion mode yu can have a self starting motor but the Adams motor was not a self starter so it is very likely that is was run in attraction mode.. 

              If you are on the right track and it sounds like you are the output is probably a mixture of BEMF and radiant energy.  This will change the chemical makeup internally of caps and batteries and improve there perfomance over time.  It will also strengthen the magnets.  Negative energy as opposed to positive energy is constructive as opposed to destructive and also has many health benifits.  Positive energy has many health risks as people are finding out with Cancers and Luekemia's due to the damage to cells it causes particullarly AC which causes the water molecules to spin constantly and makes it difficult for cells to process water through the membrain walls where they have to pass through in a particular orientation.  DC and pulsed DC is less problematical to human life. 

              When the air is very dry caps in good condition can self charge from static electricity in the air or eviroment but this sounds like it is very much related to the type of charge you are getting from your motor.
              This gets more interesting by the email, Great work.

              Regards and best wishes,
              Russel


              On1/02/2013 5:12 p.m., Colin Jamieson wrote:
               

              Hi Russel,hope the new year is turning out ok for you, have you had a chance to check out that circuit of mine? you have probably been too busy, I thought I would touch base with and tell you some of the things that have happenned. I now am using a unregulated power supply and boy there is a major drop in drive current. Also I have bemf gain, the input to the Adams motor is dc so I can accurately measure the input current and voltage, I'm using the back emf to drive a 1 watt bulb and the input is .809watt, when the bulb is lighted the voltage is still climbing so bemf is a bit over 1 watt which is slightly more than I'm getting from my Gen coils but at the moment there is only 2 gen coils. The dc converter I'm using to step up drive voltage, the output transistors of it get quite warm and they both have desent size heatsinks so there would be a bit of wastage there, the converter is suppose to be 94% efficient. The switching Fet of adams motor which the converter supplies is cool and the switching Fet has no heatsink at all.
               The cap that gets charged from the bemf seems to recharge itself, when I stop the motor and power is disconnected the bulb lights up on and off for about 20mins.
              A lot of articles I have read about the Adams motor talk about how gravity is involved and weight getting less, I notice that when water is drained from a sink or container it always goes in anticlock spiral, my adams motor goes clockwise so I thought I would make it spin anticlock, well the speed increase by 200 rpm but I think because the rotor now sees the gen coils first that maybe the reason, cheers Colin


              --- On Fri, 30/11/12, Russel Prier <russelp@...> wrote:

              From: Russel Prier <russelp@...>
              Subject: Re: [adamsmotor] Adams motor
              To: adamsmotor@yahoogroups.com
              Date: Friday, 30, November, 2012, 10:13 PM



              Wow that is great news,  I am going to have to crank up my coil winder again.   The extra energy is often described as gravitational energy and so a sensitive person would be likely to detect a change when they walk in the room.  I dont think it is gravitational energy but comes from the same source as gravity. 
              I can imagine it is aesy to wreck cheap meters measuring voltages when you have flyback voltages around because they can go very high so fast that you need a really fast scope to even see them.  My 60 Meg scope will barely catch them at times..  I have blown up my frequency counter also measuring the pulse rate feeding into a battery as for some reason the battery voltage on a 12 volt lead acid battery went to over 100 volts in a matter of seconds while I was watching something else and the counter was fried.  It was some sort of surface charge on the battery and that was with a Bedini Motor.

              Have you seen this by John Bedini I am thinking about buying it to  just to get a better understanding of the things involved but what John was working on is slightly different to what Robert was working on and you can confuse yourself sometimes.  http://bedinisg.com/bedinisg.pdf

              All the best
              Russel


              On30/11/2012 9:37 p.m., Colin Jamieson wrote:
               

              HiRussel I thought I would touch base with you. I believe I have got OU. I have 2 output circuits from my adams motor, one from the gen coils driving a load and the other from flyback circuit. The output from the flyback circuit is driving a load at 33ma at 26volts, that is .858watts, the input is 61ma at 12.6volts which in my book is .768watts. That's not counting the current draw from gen coils driving 27 leds. I will do some readings from gen coils to work out the power from them, I have stuffed 2 multimeters but they were only cheap ones I my have accidently shorted cap out. A funny thought I had the motor running a couple of days ago and a young kid went into the room and said he felt a strange tingling sensation and he said he felt his hair go strange, I haven't notice it my self, regards Colin

              --- On Mon,19/11/12, Russel Prier <russelp@...> wrote:

              From: Russel Prier <russelp@...>
              Subject: Re: [adamsmotor] Adams motor
              To: adamsmotor@yahoogroups.com
              Date: Monday, 19, November, 2012, 2:13 PM



              HiColin,

              I always thought it was the drive coils first then gen coils because there are interactions going on in the magnets after they have been pulsed which is picked up by the generator coils as excess energy but I have not tested this and I say try both ways.

              Russel P
              On19/11/2012 1:50 p.m., Colin Jamieson wrote:
               

              HiRussel I have a question for you, on the drawings done by Mr Adams showing the drive and generator coils, is the rotor spinning clockwise or anticlock?. the reason Im asking is I need to know if the magnets see the gen coils first or the drive coils because if the magnets see the drive coil first by the time the magnets get to gen coils the current to drive coils would be just switching off and the sharp pulse could have an affect, if the magnets see the gen coils first then there is an attraction to gen cores first then passes, if there a short or load theres no sticking point. There is a greater distance between gen coil and drive pulse if the gen coils are seen first compared to the time if drive coils were seen first.What do you think. looking forward to hearing from you, regards Colin
              --- On Mon,5/11/12, Russel Prier <russelp@...> wrote:

              From: Russel Prier <russelp@...>
              Subject: Re: [adamsmotor] Re: Documents still available
              To: adamsmotor@yahoogroups.com
              Date: Monday, 5, November, 2012, 9:42 PM



              HiColin,

              That is quite a setup you have built up there.  There has been a lot of trial and error going on there to come up with that arrangement Wow.  Where did you get the big toriod core from?  I have never seen anyone looping between the primary and secondary circuits in bifilla coils before.  You have some unique ideas here in this circuit.  There is so much going on in there it will take a bit of thinking about..

              Thanks for your input it is quite different and most interesting.
              Russel

              On5/11/2012 9:14 p.m., Colin Jamieson wrote:
               

              HiRussel, I have attached a circuit for you to look at. I haven,t attached my switching circuits but will do so later when I create a folder

              --- On Mon,5/11/12, Russel Prier <russelp@...> wrote:

              From: Russel Prier <russelp@...>
              Subject: Re: [adamsmotor] Re: Documents still available
              To: adamsmotor@yahoogroups.com
              Date: Monday, 5, November, 2012, 7:31 AM



              HiColin,

              Can you put a schematic sketch of your layout up,  you can load it into the files section and create your own folder to put it in..  Your description is a little confusing,  but sounds very interesting.

              Thanks
              Russel
              On4/11/2012 9:46 p.m., Colin Jamieson wrote:
               

              HiRussel its me again, I mentioned before that I thought I had a couple of times got OU but the point is I,m not sure, if I was OU by a large amount I would

              (Message over 64 KB, truncated)

            • Colin Jamieson
              Russel, can you tell me if Robert Adams used shorting techniques on his drive coils or made use of a flywheel, I m quessing that maybe the rotor it self had
              Message 7 of 12 , Mar 2, 2013
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                Russel, can you tell me if Robert Adams used shorting techniques on his drive coils or made use of a flywheel, I'm quessing that maybe the rotor it self had enough weight in to act as a flywheel, cheers Colin

                --- On Sat, 2/3/13, Russel Prier <russelp@...> wrote:

                From: Russel Prier <russelp@...>
                Subject: Re: [adamsmotor] Adams motor
                To: adamsmotor@yahoogroups.com
                Date: Saturday, 2, March, 2013, 10:03 PM



                Hi Colin,

                That is an awsome result,  Cant wait to see you start building on what you are learning and successfully scaling it up to where you have something you can really use.

                Great work
                Russel

                On 2/03/2013 3:02 p.m., Colin Jamieson wrote:
                 

                Hi Russel, just when I thought I had figured out a few things I realize I know sweet fanny all about zero energy, but I have found out that when you capture the bemf and drawn it off with the right resistance the motor goes a lot faster and draws less current, if drawn off to quickly the opposite happens. I'm using the bemf to drive a 1 watt lamp and the voltage still climbs to 105volts, I have also taken the secondary of each driving coil to light up two 1.5 watt led bulbs, the voltage across those bulbs is 108.9volts, their working voltage is 110v so they are not quite using 1.5 watts. I believe I can,t get any more the drive circuit and by the way input is .8watts. I need to concentrate on my gen coils output, have attached a picture of the setup. My input power supply is 17.6v. My motor is spinning at half the rpm it was before but my output is greater?. cheers

                --- On Sun, 3/2/13, Russel Prier <russelp@.....nz> wrote:

                From: Russel Prier <russelp@...>
                Subject: Re: [adamsmotor] Adams motor
                To: adamsmotor@yahoogroups.com
                Date: Sunday, 3, February, 2013, 10:19 PM



                Hi Colin,

                Very breifly the motor works the same but and as the magnet passes the iron pole peice there is a magnetic reversal takes place but because there is more energy in the coil because of the applied voltage on attaction there is a much greater switch to repulsion and bigger back EMF pulse as well.  This is a very brief summary of the description John Bedini gave as to why he runs his motor generators this way but I will have to reread the book to give you a more detailed descritoin of what is happening in the motor.

                Regards
                Russel


                On 3/02/2013 9:10 a.m., Colin Jamieson wrote:
                 

                Hi Russel, I've been thinking about what you said in your email about running the motor in attraction mode, I don,t quite get it. the magnets on the rotor are attracted to the iron cores of the drive coils and then at register a current is supplied to produce opposite poles for repulsion or just enough current to counteract the sticking point. If current was to be supplied to drive coils to caused the magnets on rotor to be attracted, then current would have stop at register and then current  reversed to stop magnets sticking to core, or the drive coils cores would have to be a nonmagnetic material not iron, Can you please explain the procedure for attraction mode. kind regards Colin

                --- On Fri, 1/2/13, Russel Prier <russelp@...> wrote:

                From: Russel Prier <russelp@...


                Hi Colin,

                Thanks for your new yer good wishes.  I hope you have a great year as well and all the other experimenters too.  Your experimenting is going well.  Just before Christmas i downloaded Bedinis new book on the SG and SSG motor of his.  One of the interesting things that came out of it was that running the motor side if it in attraction mode instead of repulsion mode gave a much higher BEF spike.  It is quite possible Robert was also doing this because if it worked he would have done it as he tried every concievable combination.  The Thermo motor was run in repulsion but it does not mean that the Adams motor was run that way.  By operating in repulsion mode yu can have a self starting motor but the Adams motor was not a self starter so it is very likely that is was run in attraction mode.. 

                If you are on the right track and it sounds like you are the output is probably a mixture of BEMF and radiant energy.  This will change the chemical makeup internally of caps and batteries and improve there perfomance over time.  It will also strengthen the magnets.  Negative energy as opposed to positive energy is constructive as opposed to destructive and also has many health benifits.  Positive energy has many health risks as people are finding out with Cancers and Luekemia's due to the damage to cells it causes particullarly AC which causes the water molecules to spin constantly and makes it difficult for cells to process water through the membrain walls where they have to pass through in a particular orientation.  DC and pulsed DC is less problematical to human life. 

                When the air is very dry caps in good condition can self charge from static electricity in the air or eviroment but this sounds like it is very much related to the type of charge you are getting from your motor.
                This gets more interesting by the email, Great work.

                Regards and best wishes,
                Russel


                On1/02/2013 5:12 p.m., Colin Jamieson wrote:
                 

                Hi Russel,hope the new year is turning out ok for you, have you had a chance to check out that circuit of mine? you have probably been too busy, I thought I would touch base with and tell you some of the things that have happenned. I now am using a unregulated power supply and boy there is a major drop in drive current. Also I have bemf gain, the input to the Adams motor is dc so I can accurately measure the input current and voltage, I'm using the back emf to drive a 1 watt bulb and the input is .809watt, when the bulb is lighted the voltage is still climbing so bemf is a bit over 1 watt which is slightly more than I'm getting from my Gen coils but at the moment there is only 2 gen coils. The dc converter I'm using to step up drive voltage, the output transistors of it get quite warm and they both have desent size heatsinks so there would be a bit of wastage there, the converter is suppose to be 94% efficient. The switching Fet of adams motor which the converter supplies is cool and the switching Fet has no heatsink at all.
                 The cap that gets charged from the bemf seems to recharge itself, when I stop the motor and power is disconnected the bulb lights up on and off for about 20mins.
                A lot of articles I have read about the Adams motor talk about how gravity is involved and weight getting less, I notice that when water is drained from a sink or container it always goes in anticlock spiral, my adams motor goes clockwise so I thought I would make it spin anticlock, well the speed increase by 200 rpm but I think because the rotor now sees the gen coils first that maybe the reason, cheers Colin


                --- On Fri, 30/11/12, Russel Prier <russelp@...> wrote:

                From: Russel Prier <russelp@...>
                Subject: Re: [adamsmotor] Adams motor
                To: adamsmotor@yahoogroups.com
                Date: Friday, 30, November, 2012, 10:13 PM



                Wow that is great news,  I am going to have to crank up my coil winder again.   The extra energy is often described as gravitational energy and so a sensitive person would be likely to detect a change when they walk in the room.  I dont think it is gravitational energy but comes from the same source as gravity. 
                I can imagine it is aesy to wreck cheap meters measuring voltages when you have flyback voltages around because they can go very high so fast that you need a really fast scope to even see them.  My 60 Meg scope will barely catch them at times..  I have blown up my frequency counter also measuring the pulse rate feeding into a battery as for some reason the battery voltage on a 12 volt lead acid battery went to over 100 volts in a matter of seconds while I was watching something else and the counter was fried.  It was some sort of surface charge on the battery and that was with a Bedini Motor.

                Have you seen this by John Bedini I am thinking about buying it to  just to get a better understanding of the things involved but what John was working on is slightly different to what Robert was working on and you can confuse yourself sometimes.  http://bedinisg.com/bedinisg.pdf

                All the best
                Russel


                On30/11/2012 9:37 p.m., Colin Jamieson wrote:
                 

                HiRussel I thought I would touch base with you. I believe I have got OU. I have 2 output circuits from my adams motor, one from the gen coils driving a load and the other from flyback circuit. The output from the flyback circuit is driving a load at 33ma at 26volts, that is .858watts, the input is 61ma at 12.6volts which in my book is .768watts. That's not counting the current draw from gen coils driving 27 leds. I will do some readings from gen coils to work out the power from them, I have stuffed 2 multimeters but they were only cheap ones I my have accidently shorted cap out. A funny thought I had the motor running a couple of days ago and a young kid went into the room and said he felt a strange tingling sensation and he said he felt his hair go strange, I haven't notice it my self, regards Colin

                --- On Mon,19/11/12, Russel Prier <russelp@...> wrote:

                From: Russel Prier <russelp@...>
                Subject: Re: [adamsmotor] Adams motor
                To: adamsmotor@yahoogroups.com
                Date: Monday, 19, November, 2012, 2:13 PM



                HiColin,

                I always thought it was the drive coils first then gen coils because there are interactions going on in the magnets after they have been pulsed which is picked up by the generator coils as excess energy but I have not tested this and I say try both ways.

                Russel P
                On19/11/2012 1:50 p.m., Colin Jamieson wrote:
                 

                HiRussel I have a question for you, on the drawings done by Mr Adams showing the drive and generator coils, is the rotor spinning clockwise or anticlock?. the reason Im asking is I need to know if the magnets see the gen coils first or the drive coils because if the magnets see the drive coil first by the time the magnets get to gen coils the current to drive coils would be just switching off and the sharp pulse could have an affect, if the magnets see the gen coils first then there is an attraction to gen cores first then passes, if there a short or load theres no sticking point. There is a greater distance between gen coil and drive pulse if the gen coils are seen first compared to the time if drive coils were seen first.What do you think. looking forward to hearing from you, regards Colin
                --- On Mon,5/11/12, Russel Prier <russelp@.....nz> wrote:

                From: Russel Prier <russelp@...>
                Subject: Re: [adamsmotor] Re: Documents still available
                To: adamsmotor@yahoogroups.com
                Date: Monday, 5, November, 2012, 9:42 PM



                HiColin,

                That is quite a setup you have built up there.  There has been a lot of trial and error going on there to come up with that arrangement Wow.  Where did you get the big toriod core from?  I have never seen anyone looping between the primary and secondary circuits in bifilla coils before.  You have some unique ideas here in this circuit.  There is so much going on in there it will take a bit of thinking about..

                Thanks for your input it is quite different and most interesting.
                Russel

                On5/11/2012 9:14 p.m., Colin Jamieson wrote:
                 

                HiRussel, I have attached a circuit for you to look at. I haven,t attached my switching circuits but will do so later when I create a folder

                --- On Mon,5/11/12, Russel Prier <russelp@...> wrote:

                From: Russel Prier <russelp@...>
                Subject: Re: [adamsmotor] Re: Documents still available
                To: adamsmotor@yahoogroups.com
                Date: Monday, 5, November, 2012, 7:31 AM



                HiColin,

                Can you put a schematic sketch of your layout up,  you can load it into the files section and create your own folder to put it in..  Your description is a little confusing,  but sounds very interesting.

                Thanks
                Russel
                On4/11/2012 9:46 p.m., Colin Jamieson wrote:
                 

                HiRussel its me again, I mentioned before that I thought I had a couple of times got OU but the point is I,m not sure, if I was OU by a large amount I would know, but by a small amount, not sure... At the moment I,m lighting up 30 led individually, they are not in series... I also have 4 neons glowing which get quit hot, these are between primary and secondary of drive coils. With all these connected to the output the drive current has gone done not up. the mosfets are very cold to the touch, a lot colder than room temperature.. I do get a reading across output caps but they don,t make sense. I appreciated your reasoning, regards Colin

                --- On Thu,1/11/12,

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              • Russel Prier
                Hi Colin, Over the years Robert used different materials to make his rotors out of but in the end he settled on Micarta Laminate which is like thick Formica.
                Message 8 of 12 , Mar 2, 2013
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                  Hi Colin,

                  Over the years Robert used different materials to make his rotors out of but in the end he settled on Micarta Laminate which is like thick Formica.  It is quite expensive and hard but is very strong and stable.  It is quite dense and heavy.  I cannot comment on the exact details of the circuit he used as he never showed me that but I never heard any mention of shorting the drive coils.  Bedini in his preferred Bedini Cole circuit isolates the drive coils on both sides when they are not turned on but Robert did not think that was necessary and did not use that technique from what I can remember.

                  Regards
                  Russel

                  On 3/03/2013 11:29 a.m., Colin Jamieson wrote:
                   

                  Russel, can you tell me if Robert Adams used shorting techniques on his drive coils or made use of a flywheel, I'm quessing that maybe the rotor it self had enough weight in to act as a flywheel, cheers Colin

                  --- On Sat, 2/3/13, Russel Prier <russelp@...> wrote:

                  From: Russel Prier <russelp@...>
                  Subject: Re: [adamsmotor] Adams motor
                  To: adamsmotor@yahoogroups.com
                  Date: Saturday, 2, March, 2013, 10:03 PM



                  Hi Colin,

                  That is an awsome result,  Cant wait to see you start building on what you are learning and successfully scaling it up to where you have something you can really use.

                  Great work
                  Russel

                  On 2/03/2013 3:02 p.m., Colin Jamieson wrote:
                   

                  Hi Russel, just when I thought I had figured out a few things I realize I know sweet fanny all about zero energy, but I have found out that when you capture the bemf and drawn it off with the right resistance the motor goes a lot faster and draws less current, if drawn off to quickly the opposite happens. I'm using the bemf to drive a 1 watt lamp and the voltage still climbs to 105volts, I have also taken the secondary of each driving coil to light up two 1.5 watt led bulbs, the voltage across those bulbs is 108.9volts, their working voltage is 110v so they are not quite using 1.5 watts. I believe I can,t get any more the drive circuit and by the way input is .8watts. I need to concentrate on my gen coils output, have attached a picture of the setup. My input power supply is 17.6v. My motor is spinning at half the rpm it was before but my output is greater?. cheers

                  --- On Sun, 3/2/13, Russel Prier <russelp@.....nz> wrote:

                  From: Russel Prier <russelp@...>
                  Subject: Re: [adamsmotor] Adams motor
                  To: adamsmotor@yahoogroups.com
                  Date: Sunday, 3, February, 2013, 10:19 PM



                  Hi Colin,

                  Very breifly the motor works the same but and as the magnet passes the iron pole peice there is a magnetic reversal takes place but because there is more energy in the coil because of the applied voltage on attaction there is a much greater switch to repulsion and bigger back EMF pulse as well.  This is a very brief summary of the description John Bedini gave as to why he runs his motor generators this way but I will have to reread the book to give you a more detailed descritoin of what is happening in the motor.

                  Regards
                  Russel


                  On3/02/2013 9:10 a.m., Colin Jamieson wrote:
                   

                  HiRussel, I've been thinking about what you said in your email about running the motor in attraction mode, I don,t quite get it. the magnets on the rotor are attracted to the iron cores of the drive coils and then at register a current is supplied to produce opposite poles for repulsion or just enough current to counteract the sticking point. If current was to be supplied to drive coils to caused the magnets on rotor to be attracted, then current would have stop at register and then current  reversed to stop magnets sticking to core, or the drive coils cores would have to be a nonmagnetic material not iron, Can you please explain the procedure for attraction mode. kind regards Colin

                  --- On Fri,1/2/13, Russel Prier <russelp@...> wrote:

                  From: Russel Prier <russelp@...


                  HiColin,

                  Thanks for your new yer good wishes.  I hope you have a great year as well and all the other experimenters too.  Your experimenting is going well.  Just before Christmas i downloaded Bedinis new book on the SG and SSG motor of his.  One of the interesting things that came out of it was that running the motor side if it in attraction mode instead of repulsion mode gave a much higher BEF spike.  It is quite possible Robert was also doing this because if it worked he would have done it as he tried every concievable combination.  The Thermo motor was run in repulsion but it does not mean that the Adams motor was run that way.  By operating in repulsion mode yu can have a self starting motor but the Adams motor was not a self starter so it is very likely that is was run in attraction mode.. 

                  If you are on the right track and it sounds like you are the output is probably a mixture of BEMF and radiant energy.  This will change the chemical makeup internally of caps and batteries and improve there perfomance over time.  It will also strengthen the magnets.  Negative energy as opposed to positive energy is constructive as opposed to destructive and also has many health benifits.  Positive energy has many health risks as people are finding out with Cancers and Luekemia's due to the damage to cells it causes particullarly AC which causes the water molecules to spin constantly and makes it difficult for cells to process water through the membrain walls where they have to pass through in a particular orientation.  DC and pulsed DC is less problematical to human life. 

                  When the air is very dry caps in good condition can self charge from static electricity in the air or eviroment but this sounds like it is very much related to the type of charge you are getting from your motor.
                  This gets more interesting by the email, Great work.

                  Regards and best wishes,
                  Russel


                  On1/02/2013 5:12 p.m., Colin Jamieson wrote:
                   

                  HiRussel,hope the new year is turning out ok for you, have you had a chance to check out that circuit of mine? you have probably been too busy, I thought I would touch base with and tell you some of the things that have happenned. I now am using a unregulated power supply and boy there is a major drop in drive current. Also I have bemf gain, the input to the Adams motor is dc so I can accurately measure the input current and voltage, I'm using the back emf to drive a 1 watt bulb and the input is .809watt, when the bulb is lighted the voltage is still climbing so bemf is a bit over 1 watt which is slightly more than I'm getting from my Gen coils but at the moment there is only 2 gen coils. The dc converter I'm using to step up drive voltage, the output transistors of it get quite warm and they both have desent size heatsinks so there would be a bit of wastage there, the converter is suppose to be 94% efficient. The switching Fet of adams motor which the converter supplies is cool and the switching Fet has no heatsink at all.
                   The cap that gets charged from the bemf seems to recharge itself, when I stop the motor and power is disconnected the bulb lights up on and off for about 20mins.
                  A lot of articles I have read about the Adams motor talk about how gravity is involved and weight getting less, I notice that when water is drained from a sink or container it always goes in anticlock spiral, my adams motor goes clockwise so I thought I would make it spin anticlock, well the speed increase by 200 rpm but I think because the rotor now sees the gen coils first that maybe the reason, cheers Colin


                  --- On Fri,30/11/12, Russel Prier <russelp@...> wrote:

                  From: Russel Prier <russelp@...>
                  Subject: Re: [adamsmotor] Adams motor
                  To: adamsmotor@yahoogroups.com
                  Date: Friday, 30, November, 2012, 10:13 PM



                  Wow that is great news,  I am going to have to crank up my coil winder again.   The extra energy is often described as gravitational energy and so a sensitive person would be likely to detect a change when they walk in the room.  I dont think it is gravitational energy but comes from the same source as gravity. 
                  I can imagine it is aesy to wreck cheap meters measuring voltages when you have flyback voltages around because they can go very high so fast that you need a really fast scope to even see them.  My 60 Meg scope will barely catch them at times..  I have blown up my frequency counter also measuring the pulse rate feeding into a battery as for some reason the battery voltage on a 12 volt lead acid battery went to over 100 volts in a matter of seconds while I was watching something else and the counter was fried.  It was some sort of surface charge on the battery and that was with a Bedini Motor.

                  Have you seen this by John Bedini I am thinking about buying it to  just to get a better understanding of the things involved but what John was working on is slightly different to what Robert was working on and you can confuse yourself sometimes.  http://bedinisg.com/bedinisg.pdf

                  All the best
                  Russel


                  On30/11/2012 9:37 p.m., Colin Jamieson wrote:
                   

                  HiRussel I thought I would touch base with you. I believe I have got OU. I have 2 output circuits from my adams motor, one from the gen coils driving a load and the other from flyback circuit. The output from the flyback circuit is driving a load at 33ma at 26volts, that is .858watts, the input is 61ma at 12.6volts which in my book is .768watts. That's not counting the current draw from gen coils driving 27 leds. I will do some readings from gen coils to work out the power from them, I have stuffed 2 multimeters but they were only cheap ones I my have accidently shorted cap out. A funny thought I had the motor running a couple of days ago and a young kid went into the room and said he felt a strange tingling sensation and he said he felt his hair go strange, I haven't notice it my self, regards Colin

                  --- On Mon,19/11/12, Russel Prier <russelp@...> wrote:

                  From: Russel Prier <russelp@...>
                  Subject: Re: [adamsmotor] Adams motor
                  To: adamsmotor@yahoogroups.com
                  Date: Monday, 19, November, 2012, 2:13 PM



                  HiColin,

                  I always thought it was the drive coils first then gen coils because there are interactions going on in the magnets after they have been pulsed which is picked up by the generator coils as excess energy but I have not tested this and I say try both ways.

                  Russel P
                  On19/11/2012 1:50 p.m., Colin Jamieson wrote:
                   

                  HiRussel I have a question for you, on the drawings done by Mr Adams showing the drive and generator coils, is the rotor spinning clockwise or anticlock?. the reason Im asking is I need to know if the magnets see the gen coils first or the drive coils because if the magnets see the drive coil first by the time the magnets get to gen coils the current to drive coils would be just switching off and the sharp pulse could have an affect, if the magnets see the gen coils first then there is an attraction to gen cores first then passes, if there a short or load theres no sticking point. There is a greater distance between gen coil and drive pulse if the gen coils are seen first compared to the time if drive coils were seen first.What do you think. looking forward to hearing from you, regards Colin
                  --- On Mon,

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                • Colin Jamieson
                  Thanks Russel for getting back, I have a few ideas to try out with my gen coils as they seem to be the weak link. I will keep you posted with my progress, kind
                  Message 9 of 12 , Mar 3, 2013
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                    Thanks Russel for getting back, I have a few ideas to try out with my gen coils as they seem to be the weak link. I will keep you posted with my progress, kind regards Colin

                    --- On Sun, 3/3/13, Russel Prier <russelp@...> wrote:

                    From: Russel Prier <russelp@...>
                    Subject: Re: [adamsmotor] Adams motor
                    To: adamsmotor@yahoogroups.com
                    Date: Sunday, 3, March, 2013, 5:43 PM



                    Hi Colin,

                    Over the years Robert used different materials to make his rotors out of but in the end he settled on Micarta Laminate which is like thick Formica.  It is quite expensive and hard but is very strong and stable.  It is quite dense and heavy.  I cannot comment on the exact details of the circuit he used as he never showed me that but I never heard any mention of shorting the drive coils.  Bedini in his preferred Bedini Cole circuit isolates the drive coils on both sides when they are not turned on but Robert did not think that was necessary and did not use that technique from what I can remember.

                    Regards
                    Russel

                    On 3/03/2013 11:29 a.m., Colin Jamieson wrote:
                     

                    Russel, can you tell me if Robert Adams used shorting techniques on his drive coils or made use of a flywheel, I'm quessing that maybe the rotor it self had enough weight in to act as a flywheel, cheers Colin

                    --- On Sat, 2/3/13, Russel Prier <russelp@...> wrote:

                    From: Russel Prier <russelp@...>
                    Subject: Re: [adamsmotor] Adams motor
                    To: adamsmotor@yahoogroups.com
                    Date: Saturday, 2, March, 2013, 10:03 PM



                    Hi Colin,

                    That is an awsome result,  Cant wait to see you start building on what you are learning and successfully scaling it up to where you have something you can really use.

                    Great work
                    Russel

                    On 2/03/2013 3:02 p.m., Colin Jamieson wrote:
                     

                    Hi Russel, just when I thought I had figured out a few things I realize I know sweet fanny all about zero energy, but I have found out that when you capture the bemf and drawn it off with the right resistance the motor goes a lot faster and draws less current, if drawn off to quickly the opposite happens. I'm using the bemf to drive a 1 watt lamp and the voltage still climbs to 105volts, I have also taken the secondary of each driving coil to light up two 1.5 watt led bulbs, the voltage across those bulbs is 108.9volts, their working voltage is 110v so they are not quite using 1.5 watts. I believe I can,t get any more the drive circuit and by the way input is .8watts. I need to concentrate on my gen coils output, have attached a picture of the setup. My input power supply is 17.6v. My motor is spinning at half the rpm it was before but my output is greater?. cheers

                    --- On Sun, 3/2/13, Russel Prier <russelp@.....nz> wrote:

                    From: Russel Prier <russelp@...>
                    Subject: Re: [adamsmotor] Adams motor
                    To: adamsmotor@yahoogroups.com
                    Date: Sunday, 3, February, 2013, 10:19 PM



                    Hi Colin,

                    Very breifly the motor works the same but and as the magnet passes the iron pole peice there is a magnetic reversal takes place but because there is more energy in the coil because of the applied voltage on attaction there is a much greater switch to repulsion and bigger back EMF pulse as well.  This is a very brief summary of the description John Bedini gave as to why he runs his motor generators this way but I will have to reread the book to give you a more detailed descritoin of what is happening in the motor.

                    Regards
                    Russel


                    On3/02/2013 9:10 a.m., Colin Jamieson wrote:
                     

                    HiRussel, I've been thinking about what you said in your email about running the motor in attraction mode, I don,t quite get it. the magnets on the rotor are attracted to the iron cores of the drive coils and then at register a current is supplied to produce opposite poles for repulsion or just enough current to counteract the sticking point. If current was to be supplied to drive coils to caused the magnets on rotor to be attracted, then current would have stop at register and then current  reversed to stop magnets sticking to core, or the drive coils cores would have to be a nonmagnetic material not iron, Can you please explain the procedure for attraction mode. kind regards Colin

                    --- On Fri,1/2/13, Russel Prier <russelp@...> wrote:

                    From: Russel Prier <russelp@...


                    HiColin,

                    Thanks for your new yer good wishes.  I hope you have a great year as well and all the other experimenters too.  Your experimenting is going well.  Just before Christmas i downloaded Bedinis new book on the SG and SSG motor of his.  One of the interesting things that came out of it was that running the motor side if it in attraction mode instead of repulsion mode gave a much higher BEF spike.  It is quite possible Robert was also doing this because if it worked he would have done it as he tried every concievable combination.  The Thermo motor was run in repulsion but it does not mean that the Adams motor was run that way.  By operating in repulsion mode yu can have a self starting motor but the Adams motor was not a self starter so it is very likely that is was run in attraction mode.. 

                    If you are on the right track and it sounds like you are the output is probably a mixture of BEMF and radiant energy.  This will change the chemical makeup internally of caps and batteries and improve there perfomance over time.  It will also strengthen the magnets.  Negative energy as opposed to positive energy is constructive as opposed to destructive and also has many health benifits.  Positive energy has many health risks as people are finding out with Cancers and Luekemia's due to the damage to cells it causes particullarly AC which causes the water molecules to spin constantly and makes it difficult for cells to process water through the membrain walls where they have to pass through in a particular orientation.  DC and pulsed DC is less problematical to human life. 

                    When the air is very dry caps in good condition can self charge from static electricity in the air or eviroment but this sounds like it is very much related to the type of charge you are getting from your motor.
                    This gets more interesting by the email, Great work.

                    Regards and best wishes,
                    Russel


                    On1/02/2013 5:12 p.m., Colin Jamieson wrote:
                     

                    HiRussel,hope the new year is turning out ok for you, have you had a chance to check out that circuit of mine? you have probably been too busy, I thought I would touch base with and tell you some of the things that have happenned. I now am using a unregulated power supply and boy there is a major drop in drive current. Also I have bemf gain, the input to the Adams motor is dc so I can accurately measure the input current and voltage, I'm using the back emf to drive a 1 watt bulb and the input is .809watt, when the bulb is lighted the voltage is still climbing so bemf is a bit over 1 watt which is slightly more than I'm getting from my Gen coils but at the moment there is only 2 gen coils. The dc converter I'm using to step up drive voltage, the output transistors of it get quite warm and they both have desent size heatsinks so there would be a bit of wastage there, the converter is suppose to be 94% efficient. The switching Fet of adams motor which the converter supplies is cool and the switching Fet has no heatsink at all.
                     The cap that gets charged from the bemf seems to recharge itself, when I stop the motor and power is disconnected the bulb lights up on and off for about 20mins.
                    A lot of articles I have read about the Adams motor talk about how gravity is involved and weight getting less, I notice that when water is drained from a sink or container it always goes in anticlock spiral, my adams motor goes clockwise so I thought I would make it spin anticlock, well the speed increase by 200 rpm but I think because the rotor now sees the gen coils first that maybe the reason, cheers Colin


                    --- On Fri,30/11/12, Russel Prier <russelp@...> wrote:

                    From: Russel Prier <russelp@...>
                    Subject: Re: [adamsmotor] Adams motor
                    To: adamsmotor@yahoogroups.com
                    Date: Friday, 30, November, 2012, 10:13 PM



                    Wow that is great news,  I am going to have to crank up my coil winder again.   The extra energy is often described as gravitational energy and so a sensitive person would be likely to detect a change when they walk in the room.  I dont think it is gravitational energy but comes from the same source as gravity. 
                    I can imagine it is aesy to wreck cheap meters measuring voltages when you have flyback voltages around because they can go very high so fast that you need a really fast scope to even see them.  My 60 Meg scope will barely catch them at times..  I have blown up my frequency counter also measuring the pulse rate feeding into a battery as for some reason the battery voltage on a 12 volt lead acid battery went to over 100 volts in a matter of seconds while I was watching something else and the counter was fried.  It was some sort of surface charge on the battery and that was with a Bedini Motor.

                    Have you seen this by John Bedini I am thinking about buying it to  just to get a better understanding of the things involved but what John was working on is slightly different to what Robert was working on and you can confuse yourself sometimes.  http://bedinisg.com/bedinisg.pdf

                    All the best
                    Russel


                    On30/11/2012 9:37 p.m., Colin Jamieson wrote:
                     

                    HiRussel I thought I would touch base with you. I believe I have got OU. I have 2 output circuits from my adams motor, one from the gen coils driving a load and the other from flyback circuit. The output from the flyback circuit is driving a load at 33ma at 26volts, that is .858watts, the input is 61ma at 12.6volts which in my book is .768watts. That's not counting the current draw from gen coils driving 27 leds. I will do some readings from gen coils to work out the power from them, I have stuffed 2 multimeters but they were only cheap ones I my have accidently shorted cap out. A funny thought I had the motor running a couple of days ago and a young kid went into the room and said he felt a strange tingling sensation and he said he felt his hair go strange, I haven't notice it my self, regards Colin

                    --- On Mon,19/11/12, Russel Prier <russelp@...> wrote:

                    From: Russel Prier <russelp@...>
                    Subject: Re: [adamsmotor] Adams motor
                    To: adamsmotor@yahoogroups.com
                    Date: Monday, 19, November, 2012, 2:13 PM



                    HiColin,

                    I always thought it was the drive coils first then gen coils because there are interactions going on in the magnets after they have been pulsed which is picked up by the generator coils as excess energy but I have not tested this and I say try both ways.

                    Russel P
                    On19/11/2012 1:50 p.m., Colin Jamieson wrote:
                     

                    HiRussel I have a question for you, on the drawings done by Mr Adams showing the drive and generator coils, is the rotor spinning clockwise or anticlock?. the reason Im asking is I need to know if the magnets see the gen coils first or the drive coils because if the magnets see the drive coil first by the time the magnets get to gen coils the current to drive coils would be just switching off and the sharp pulse could have an affect, if the magnets see the gen coils first then there is an attraction to gen cores first then passes, if there a short or load theres no sticking point. There is a greater distance between gen coil and drive pulse if the gen coils are seen first compared to the time if drive coils were seen first.What do you think. looking forward to hearing from you, regards Colin
                    --- On Mon,5/11/12, Russel Prier <russelp@.....nz> wrote:

                    From: Russel Prier <russelp@...>
                    Subject: Re: [adamsmotor] Re: Documents still available
                    To: adamsmotor@yahoogroups.com
                    Date: Monday, 5, November, 2012, 9:42 PM



                    HiColin,

                    That is quite a setup you have built up there.  There has been a lot

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                  • Russel Prier
                    One piece of info you may be able to use was to make the load twice the resistance of the generator coils. When you are dealing with aetheric or negative
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                      One piece of info you may be able to use was to make the load twice the resistance of the generator coils.  When you are dealing with aetheric or negative energy it grows on resistors and often acts the opposite of positive energy (normal energy)  Whether that is in the form of an inductor air cored or iron cored I dont know but I suspect it is an aircored wire wound resistor.  Induction is an important part of this process and the inductive charge which gets stored as a magnetic field in an inductor when it is charged is part of the process as far as I could discern from Robert.  Possibly the capacitance has to then be matched to the inductance and the frequency to get a resonance going which acts as an amplifier increasing the voltage and charge quite disproportionately to the input.  I am sure the output is a tuned circuit of some kind.

                      Well it is something to think about anyway.

                      God Bless
                      Russel

                      On 3/03/2013 9:34 p.m., Colin Jamieson wrote:
                       

                      Thanks Russel for getting back, I have a few ideas to try out with my gen coils as they seem to be the weak link. I will keep you posted with my progress, kind regards Colin

                      --- On Sun, 3/3/13, Russel Prier <russelp@...> wrote:

                      From: Russel Prier <russelp@...>
                      Subject: Re: [adamsmotor] Adams motor
                      To: adamsmotor@yahoogroups.com
                      Date: Sunday, 3, March, 2013, 5:43 PM



                      Hi Colin,

                      Over the years Robert used different materials to make his rotors out of but in the end he settled on Micarta Laminate which is like thick Formica.  It is quite expensive and hard but is very strong and stable.  It is quite dense and heavy.  I cannot comment on the exact details of the circuit he used as he never showed me that but I never heard any mention of shorting the drive coils.  Bedini in his preferred Bedini Cole circuit isolates the drive coils on both sides when they are not turned on but Robert did not think that was necessary and did not use that technique from what I can remember.

                      Regards
                      Russel

                      On 3/03/2013 11:29 a.m., Colin Jamieson wrote:
                       

                      Russel, can you tell me if Robert Adams used shorting techniques on his drive coils or made use of a flywheel, I'm quessing that maybe the rotor it self had enough weight in to act as a flywheel, cheers Colin

                      --- On Sat, 2/3/13, Russel Prier <russelp@...> wrote:

                      From: Russel Prier <russelp@...>
                      Subject: Re: [adamsmotor] Adams motor
                      To: adamsmotor@yahoogroups.com
                      Date: Saturday, 2, March, 2013, 10:03 PM



                      Hi Colin,

                      That is an awsome result,  Cant wait to see you start building on what you are learning and successfully scaling it up to where you have something you can really use.

                      Great work
                      Russel

                      On2/03/2013 3:02 p.m., Colin Jamieson wrote:
                       

                      Hi Russel, just when I thought I had figured out a few things I realize I know sweet fanny all about zero energy, but I have found out that when you capture the bemf and drawn it off with the right resistance the motor goes a lot faster and draws less current, if drawn off to quickly the opposite happens. I'm using the bemf to drive a 1 watt lamp and the voltage still climbs to 105volts, I have also taken the secondary of each driving coil to light up two 1.5 watt led bulbs, the voltage across those bulbs is 108.9volts, their working voltage is 110v so they are not quite using 1.5 watts. I believe I can,t get any more the drive circuit and by the way input is .8watts. I need to concentrate on my gen coils output, have attached a picture of the setup. My input power supply is 17.6v. My motor is spinning at half the rpm it was before but my output is greater?. cheers

                      --- On Sun, 3/2/13, Russel Prier <russelp@.....nz> wrote:

                      From: Russel Prier <russelp@...>
                      Subject: Re: [adamsmotor] Adams motor
                      To: adamsmotor@yahoogroups.com
                      Date: Sunday, 3, February, 2013, 10:19 PM



                      HiColin,

                      Very breifly the motor works the same but and as the magnet passes the iron pole peice there is a magnetic reversal takes place but because there is more energy in the coil because of the applied voltage on attaction there is a much greater switch to repulsion and bigger back EMF pulse as well.  This is a very brief summary of the description John Bedini gave as to why he runs his motor generators this way but I will have to reread the book to give you a more detailed descritoin of what is happening in the motor.

                      Regards
                      Russel


                      On3/02/2013 9:10 a.m., Colin Jamieson wrote:
                       

                      HiRussel, I've been thinking about what you said in your email about running the motor in attraction mode, I don,t quite get it. the magnets on the rotor are attracted to the iron cores of the drive coils and then at register a current is supplied to produce opposite poles for repulsion or just enough current to counteract the sticking point. If current was to be supplied to drive coils to caused the magnets on rotor to be attracted, then current would have stop at register and then current  reversed to stop magnets sticking to core, or the drive coils cores would have to be a nonmagnetic material not iron, Can you please explain the procedure for attraction mode. kind regards Colin

                      --- On Fri,1/2/13, Russel Prier <russelp@...> wrote:

                      From: Russel Prier <russelp@...


                      HiColin,

                      Thanks for your new yer good wishes.  I hope you have a great year as well and all the other experimenters too.  Your experimenting is going well.  Just before Christmas i downloaded Bedinis new book on the SG and SSG motor of his.  One of the interesting things that came out of it was that running the motor side if it in attraction mode instead of repulsion mode gave a much higher BEF spike.  It is quite possible Robert was also doing this because if it worked he would have done it as he tried every concievable combination.  The Thermo motor was run in repulsion but it does not mean that the Adams motor was run that way.  By operating in repulsion mode yu can have a self starting motor but the Adams motor was not a self starter so it is very likely that is was run in attraction mode.. 

                      If you are on the right track and it sounds like you are the output is probably a mixture of BEMF and radiant energy.  This will change the chemical makeup internally of caps and batteries and improve there perfomance over time.  It will also strengthen the magnets.  Negative energy as opposed to positive energy is constructive as opposed to destructive and also has many health benifits.  Positive energy has many health risks as people are finding out with Cancers and Luekemia's due to the damage to cells it causes particullarly AC which causes the water molecules to spin constantly and makes it difficult for cells to process water through the membrain walls where they have to pass through in a particular orientation.  DC and pulsed DC is less problematical to human life. 

                      When the air is very dry caps in good condition can self charge from static electricity in the air or eviroment but this sounds like it is very much related to the type of charge you are getting from your motor.
                      This gets more interesting by the email, Great work.

                      Regards and best wishes,
                      Russel


                      On1/02/2013 5:12 p.m., Colin Jamieson wrote:
                       

                      HiRussel,hope the new year is turning out ok for you, have you had a chance to check out that circuit of mine? you have probably been too busy, I thought I would touch base with and tell you some of the things that have happenned. I now am using a unregulated power supply and boy there is a major drop in drive current. Also I have bemf gain, the input to the Adams motor is dc so I can accurately measure the input current and voltage, I'm using the back emf to drive a 1 watt bulb and the input is .809watt, when the bulb is lighted the voltage is still climbing so bemf is a bit over 1 watt which is slightly more than I'm getting from my Gen coils but at the moment there is only 2 gen coils. The dc converter I'm using to step up drive voltage, the output transistors of it get quite warm and they both have desent size heatsinks so there would be a bit of wastage there, the converter is suppose to be 94% efficient. The switching Fet of adams motor which the converter supplies is cool and the switching Fet has no heatsink at all.
                       The cap that gets charged from the bemf seems to recharge itself, when I stop the motor and power is disconnected the bulb lights up on and off for about 20mins.
                      A lot of articles I have read about the Adams motor talk about how gravity is involved and weight getting less, I notice that when water is drained from a sink or container it always goes in anticlock spiral, my adams motor goes clockwise so I thought I would make it spin anticlock, well the speed increase by 200 rpm but I think because the rotor now sees the gen coils first that maybe the reason, cheers Colin


                      --- On Fri,30/11/12, Russel Prier <russelp@...> wrote:

                      From: Russel Prier <russelp@...>
                      Subject: Re: [adamsmotor] Adams motor
                      To: adamsmotor@yahoogroups.com
                      Date: Friday, 30, November, 2012, 10:13 PM



                      Wow that is great news,  I am going to have to crank up my coil winder again.   The extra energy is often described as gravitational energy and so a sensitive person would be likely to detect a change when they walk in the room.  I dont think it is gravitational energy but comes from the same source as gravity. 
                      I can imagine it is aesy to wreck cheap meters measuring voltages when you have flyback voltages around because they can go very high so fast that you need a really fast scope to even see them.  My 60 Meg scope will barely catch them at times..  I have blown up my frequency counter also measuring the pulse rate feeding into a battery as for some reason the battery voltage on a 12 volt lead acid battery went to over 100 volts in a matter of seconds while I was watching something else and the counter was fried.  It was some sort of surface charge on the battery and that was with a Bedini Motor.

                      Have you seen this by John Bedini I am thinking about buying it to  just to get a better understanding of the things involved but what John was working on is slightly different to what Robert was working on and you can confuse yourself sometimes.  http://bedinisg.com/bedinisg.pdf

                      All the best
                      Russel


                      On30/11/2012 9:37 p.m., Colin Jamieson wrote:
                       

                      HiRussel I thought I would touch base with you. I believe I have got OU. I have 2 output circuits from my adams motor, one from the gen coils driving a load and the other from flyback circuit. The output from the flyback circuit is driving a load at 33ma at 26volts, that is .858watts, the input is 61ma at 12.6volts which in my book is .768watts. That's not counting the current draw from gen coils driving 27 leds. I will do some readings from gen coils to work out the power from them, I have stuffed 2 multimeters but they were only cheap ones I my have accidently shorted cap out. A funny thought I had the motor running a couple of days ago and a young kid went into the room and said he felt a strange tingling sensation and he said he felt his hair go strange, I haven't notice it my self,

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                    • Colin Jamieson
                      Hi Russel, you mentioned that the load should have twice the resistance of the gen coils, is that dc resistance or impedance, if its impedance it might account
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                        Hi Russel, you mentioned that the load should have twice the resistance of the gen coils, is that dc resistance or impedance, if its impedance it might account for me getting more power out at a slower speed, maybe when the reactance drops the resistance matches my load, regards Colin

                        --- On Mon, 4/3/13, Russel Prier <russelp@...> wrote:

                        From: Russel Prier <russelp@...>
                        Subject: Re: [adamsmotor] Adams motor
                        To: adamsmotor@yahoogroups.com
                        Date: Monday, 4, March, 2013, 12:12 AM



                        One piece of info you may be able to use was to make the load twice the resistance of the generator coils.  When you are dealing with aetheric or negative energy it grows on resistors and often acts the opposite of positive energy (normal energy)  Whether that is in the form of an inductor air cored or iron cored I dont know but I suspect it is an aircored wire wound resistor.  Induction is an important part of this process and the inductive charge which gets stored as a magnetic field in an inductor when it is charged is part of the process as far as I could discern from Robert.  Possibly the capacitance has to then be matched to the inductance and the frequency to get a resonance going which acts as an amplifier increasing the voltage and charge quite disproportionately to the input.  I am sure the output is a tuned circuit of some kind.

                        Well it is something to think about anyway.

                        God Bless
                        Russel

                        On 3/03/2013 9:34 p.m., Colin Jamieson wrote:
                         

                        Thanks Russel for getting back, I have a few ideas to try out with my gen coils as they seem to be the weak link. I will keep you posted with my progress, kind regards Colin

                        --- On Sun, 3/3/13, Russel Prier <russelp@...> wrote:

                        From: Russel Prier <russelp@...>
                        Subject: Re: [adamsmotor] Adams motor
                        To: adamsmotor@yahoogroups.com
                        Date: Sunday, 3, March, 2013, 5:43 PM



                        Hi Colin,

                        Over the years Robert used different materials to make his rotors out of but in the end he settled on Micarta Laminate which is like thick Formica.  It is quite expensive and hard but is very strong and stable.  It is quite dense and heavy.  I cannot comment on the exact details of the circuit he used as he never showed me that but I never heard any mention of shorting the drive coils.  Bedini in his preferred Bedini Cole circuit isolates the drive coils on both sides when they are not turned on but Robert did not think that was necessary and did not use that technique from what I can remember.

                        Regards
                        Russel

                        On 3/03/2013 11:29 a.m., Colin Jamieson wrote:
                         

                        Russel, can you tell me if Robert Adams used shorting techniques on his drive coils or made use of a flywheel, I'm quessing that maybe the rotor it self had enough weight in to act as a flywheel, cheers Colin

                        --- On Sat, 2/3/13, Russel Prier <russelp@...> wrote:

                        From: Russel Prier <russelp@...>
                        Subject: Re: [adamsmotor] Adams motor
                        To: adamsmotor@yahoogroups.com
                        Date: Saturday, 2, March, 2013, 10:03 PM



                        Hi Colin,

                        That is an awsome result,  Cant wait to see you start building on what you are learning and successfully scaling it up to where you have something you can really use.

                        Great work
                        Russel

                        On2/03/2013 3:02 p.m., Colin Jamieson wrote:
                         

                        Hi Russel, just when I thought I had figured out a few things I realize I know sweet fanny all about zero energy, but I have found out that when you capture the bemf and drawn it off with the right resistance the motor goes a lot faster and draws less current, if drawn off to quickly the opposite happens. I'm using the bemf to drive a 1 watt lamp and the voltage still climbs to 105volts, I have also taken the secondary of each driving coil to light up two 1.5 watt led bulbs, the voltage across those bulbs is 108.9volts, their working voltage is 110v so they are not quite using 1.5 watts. I believe I can,t get any more the drive circuit and by the way input is .8watts. I need to concentrate on my gen coils output, have attached a picture of the setup. My input power supply is 17.6v. My motor is spinning at half the rpm it was before but my output is greater?. cheers

                        --- On Sun, 3/2/13, Russel Prier <russelp@.....nz> wrote:

                        From: Russel Prier <russelp@...>
                        Subject: Re: [adamsmotor] Adams motor
                        To: adamsmotor@yahoogroups.com
                        Date: Sunday, 3, February, 2013, 10:19 PM



                        HiColin,

                        Very breifly the motor works the same but and as the magnet passes the iron pole peice there is a magnetic reversal takes place but because there is more energy in the coil because of the applied voltage on attaction there is a much greater switch to repulsion and bigger back EMF pulse as well.  This is a very brief summary of the description John Bedini gave as to why he runs his motor generators this way but I will have to reread the book to give you a more detailed descritoin of what is happening in the motor.

                        Regards
                        Russel


                        On3/02/2013 9:10 a.m., Colin Jamieson wrote:
                         

                        HiRussel, I've been thinking about what you said in your email about running the motor in attraction mode, I don,t quite get it. the magnets on the rotor are attracted to the iron cores of the drive coils and then at register a current is supplied to produce opposite poles for repulsion or just enough current to counteract the sticking point. If current was to be supplied to drive coils to caused the magnets on rotor to be attracted, then current would have stop at register and then current  reversed to stop magnets sticking to core, or the drive coils cores would have to be a nonmagnetic material not iron, Can you please explain the procedure for attraction mode. kind regards Colin

                        --- On Fri,1/2/13, Russel Prier <russelp@...> wrote:

                        From: Russel Prier <russelp@...


                        HiColin,

                        Thanks for your new yer good wishes.  I hope you have a great year as well and all the other experimenters too.  Your experimenting is going well.  Just before Christmas i downloaded Bedinis new book on the SG and SSG motor of his.  One of the interesting things that came out of it was that running the motor side if it in attraction mode instead of repulsion mode gave a much higher BEF spike.  It is quite possible Robert was also doing this because if it worked he would have done it as he tried every concievable combination.  The Thermo motor was run in repulsion but it does not mean that the Adams motor was run that way.  By operating in repulsion mode yu can have a self starting motor but the Adams motor was not a self starter so it is very likely that is was run in attraction mode.. 

                        If you are on the right track and it sounds like you are the output is probably a mixture of BEMF and radiant energy.  This will change the chemical makeup internally of caps and batteries and improve there perfomance over time.  It will also strengthen the magnets.  Negative energy as opposed to positive energy is constructive as opposed to destructive and also has many health benifits.  Positive energy has many health risks as people are finding out with Cancers and Luekemia's due to the damage to cells it causes particullarly AC which causes the water molecules to spin constantly and makes it difficult for cells to process water through the membrain walls where they have to pass through in a particular orientation.  DC and pulsed DC is less problematical to human life. 

                        When the air is very dry caps in good condition can self charge from static electricity in the air or eviroment but this sounds like it is very much related to the type of charge you are getting from your motor.
                        This gets more interesting by the email, Great work.

                        Regards and best wishes,
                        Russel


                        On1/02/2013 5:12 p.m., Colin Jamieson wrote:
                         

                        HiRussel,hope the new year is turning out ok for you, have you had a chance to check out that circuit of mine? you have probably been too busy, I thought I would touch base with and tell you some of the things that have happenned. I now am using a unregulated power supply and boy there is a major drop in drive current. Also I have bemf gain, the input to the Adams motor is dc so I can accurately measure the input current and voltage, I'm using the back emf to drive a 1 watt bulb and the input is .809watt, when the bulb is lighted the voltage is still climbing so bemf is a bit over 1 watt which is slightly more than I'm getting from my Gen coils but at the moment there is only 2 gen coils. The dc converter I'm using to step up drive voltage, the output transistors of it get quite warm and they both have desent size heatsinks so there would be a bit of wastage there, the converter is suppose to be 94% efficient. The switching Fet of adams motor which the converter supplies is cool and the switching Fet has no heatsink at all.
                         The cap that gets charged from the bemf seems to recharge itself, when I stop the motor and power is disconnected the bulb lights up on and off for about 20mins.
                        A lot of articles I have read about the Adams motor talk about how gravity is involved and weight getting less, I notice that when water is drained from a sink or container it always goes in anticlock spiral, my adams motor goes clockwise so I thought I would make it spin anticlock, well the speed increase by 200 rpm but I think because the rotor now sees the gen coils first that maybe the reason, cheers Colin


                        --- On Fri,30/11/12, Russel Prier <russelp@...> wrote:

                        From: Russel Prier <russelp@...>
                        Subject: Re: [adamsmotor] Adams motor
                        To: adamsmotor@yahoogroups.com
                        Date: Friday, 30, November, 2012, 10:13 PM



                        Wow that is great news,  I am going to have to crank up my coil winder again.   The extra energy is often described as gravitational energy and so a sensitive person would be likely to detect a change when they walk in the room.  I dont think it is gravitational energy but comes from the same source as gravity. 
                        I can imagine it is aesy to wreck cheap meters measuring voltages when you have flyback voltages around because they can go very high so fast that you need a really fast scope to even see them.  My 60 Meg scope will barely catch them at times..  I have blown up my frequency counter also measuring the pulse rate feeding into a battery as for some reason the battery voltage on a 12 volt lead acid battery went to over 100 volts in a matter of seconds while I was watching something else and the counter was fried.  It was some sort of surface charge on the battery and that was with a Bedini Motor.

                        Have you seen this by John Bedini I am thinking about buying it to  just to get a better understanding of the things involved but what John was working on is slightly different to what Robert was working on and you can confuse yourself sometimes.  http://bedinisg.com/bedinisg.pdf

                        All the best
                        Russel


                        On30/11/2012 9:37 p.m., Colin Jamieson wrote:
                         

                        HiRussel I thought I would touch base with you. I believe I have got OU. I have 2 output circuits from my adams motor, one from the gen coils driving a load and the other from flyback circuit. The output from the flyback circuit is driving a load at 33ma at 26volts, that is .858watts, the input is 61ma at 12.6volts which in my book is .768watts. That's not counting the current draw from gen coils driving 27 leds.. I will do some readings from gen coils to work out the power from them, I have stuffed 2 multimeters but they were only cheap ones I my have accidently shorted cap out. A funny thought I had the motor running a couple of days ago and a young kid went into the room and said he felt a strange tingling sensation and he said he felt his hair go strange, I haven't notice it my self, regards Colin

                        --- On Mon,19/11/12, Russel Prier <russelp@...> wrote:

                        From: Russel Prier <russelp@...>
                        Subject: Re: [adamsmotor] Adams motor
                        To: adamsmotor@yahoogroups.com
                        Date: Monday, 19, November, 2012, 2:13 PM



                        HiColin,


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                      • Russel Prier
                        Hi Colin, I would take it to be DC resistance, that is what Robert worked on everywhere else in his designs. Regards Russel ... -- Russel Prier MANAGING
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                          Hi Colin,
                          I would take it to be DC resistance,  that is what Robert worked on everywhere else in his designs.
                          Regards Russel
                           

                          On 5/03/2013 4:00 p.m., Colin Jamieson wrote:
                           

                          Hi Russel, you mentioned that the load should have twice the resistance of the gen coils, is that dc resistance or impedance, if its impedance it might account for me getting more power out at a slower speed, maybe when the reactance drops the resistance matches my load, regards Colin

                          --- On Mon, 4/3/13, Russel Prier <russelp@...> wrote:

                          From: Russel Prier <russelp@...>
                          Subject: Re: [adamsmotor] Adams motor
                          To: adamsmotor@yahoogroups.com
                          Date: Monday, 4, March, 2013, 12:12 AM



                          One piece of info you may be able to use was to make the load twice the resistance of the generator coils.  When you are dealing with aetheric or negative energy it grows on resistors and often acts the opposite of positive energy (normal energy)  Whether that is in the form of an inductor air cored or iron cored I dont know but I suspect it is an aircored wire wound resistor.  Induction is an important part of this process and the inductive charge which gets stored as a magnetic field in an inductor when it is charged is part of the process as far as I could discern from Robert.  Possibly the capacitance has to then be matched to the inductance and the frequency to get a resonance going which acts as an amplifier increasing the voltage and charge quite disproportionately to the input.  I am sure the output is a tuned circuit of some kind.

                          Well it is something to think about anyway.

                          God Bless
                          Russel

                          On 3/03/2013 9:34 p.m., Colin Jamieson wrote:
                           

                          Thanks Russel for getting back, I have a few ideas to try out with my gen coils as they seem to be the weak link. I will keep you posted with my progress, kind regards Colin

                          --- On Sun, 3/3/13, Russel Prier <russelp@...> wrote:

                          From: Russel Prier <russelp@...>
                          Subject: Re: [adamsmotor] Adams motor
                          To: adamsmotor@yahoogroups.com
                          Date: Sunday, 3, March, 2013, 5:43 PM



                          Hi Colin,

                          Over the years Robert used different materials to make his rotors out of but in the end he settled on Micarta Laminate which is like thick Formica.  It is quite expensive and hard but is very strong and stable.  It is quite dense and heavy.  I cannot comment on the exact details of the circuit he used as he never showed me that but I never heard any mention of shorting the drive coils.  Bedini in his preferred Bedini Cole circuit isolates the drive coils on both sides when they are not turned on but Robert did not think that was necessary and did not use that technique from what I can remember.

                          Regards
                          Russel

                          On3/03/2013 11:29 a.m., Colin Jamieson wrote:
                           

                          Russel, can you tell me if Robert Adams used shorting techniques on his drive coils or made use of a flywheel, I'm quessing that maybe the rotor it self had enough weight in to act as a flywheel, cheers Colin

                          --- On Sat, 2/3/13, Russel Prier <russelp@...> wrote:

                          From: Russel Prier <russelp@...>
                          Subject: Re: [adamsmotor] Adams motor
                          To: adamsmotor@yahoogroups.com
                          Date: Saturday, 2, March, 2013, 10:03 PM



                          HiColin,

                          That is an awsome result,  Cant wait to see you start building on what you are learning and successfully scaling it up to where you have something you can really use.

                          Great work
                          Russel

                          On2/03/2013 3:02 p.m., Colin Jamieson wrote:
                           

                          HiRussel, just when I thought I had figured out a few things I realize I know sweet fanny all about zero energy, but I have found out that when you capture the bemf and drawn it off with the right resistance the motor goes a lot faster and draws less current, if drawn off to quickly the opposite happens. I'm using the bemf to drive a 1 watt lamp and the voltage still climbs to 105volts, I have also taken the secondary of each driving coil to light up two 1.5 watt led bulbs, the voltage across those bulbs is 108.9volts, their working voltage is 110v so they are not quite using 1.5 watts. I believe I can,t get any more the drive circuit and by the way input is .8watts. I need to concentrate on my gen coils output, have attached a picture of the setup. My input power supply is 17.6v. My motor is spinning at half the rpm it was before but my output is greater?. cheers

                          --- On Sun,3/2/13, Russel Prier <russelp@.....nz> wrote:

                          From: Russel Prier <russelp@...>
                          Subject: Re: [adamsmotor] Adams motor
                          To: adamsmotor@yahoogroups.com
                          Date: Sunday, 3, February, 2013, 10:19 PM



                          HiColin,

                          Very breifly the motor works the same but and as the magnet passes the iron pole peice there is a magnetic reversal takes place but because there is more energy in the coil because of the applied voltage on attaction there is a much greater switch to repulsion and bigger back EMF pulse as well.  This is a very brief summary of the description John Bedini gave as to why he runs his motor generators this way but I will have to reread the book to give you a more detailed descritoin of what is happening in the motor.

                          Regards
                          Russel


                          On3/02/2013 9:10 a.m., Colin Jamieson wrote:
                           

                          HiRussel, I've been thinking about what you said in your email about running the motor in attraction mode, I don,t quite get it. the magnets on the rotor are attracted to the iron cores of the drive coils and then at register a current is supplied to produce opposite poles for repulsion or just enough current to counteract the sticking point. If current was to be supplied to drive coils to caused the magnets on rotor to be attracted, then current would have stop at register and then current  reversed to stop magnets sticking to core, or the drive coils cores would have to be a nonmagnetic material not iron, Can you please explain the procedure for attraction mode. kind regards Colin

                          --- On Fri,1/2/13, Russel Prier <russelp@...> wrote:

                          From: Russel Prier <russelp@...


                          HiColin,

                          Thanks for your new yer good wishes.  I hope you have a great year as well and all the other experimenters too.  Your experimenting is going well.  Just before Christmas i downloaded Bedinis new book on the SG and SSG motor of his.  One of the interesting things that came out of it was that running the motor side if it in attraction mode instead of repulsion mode gave a much higher BEF spike.  It is quite possible Robert was also doing this because if it worked he would have done it as he tried every concievable combination.  The Thermo motor was run in repulsion but it does not mean that the Adams motor was run that way.  By operating in repulsion mode yu can have a self starting motor but the Adams motor was not a self starter so it is very likely that is was run in attraction mode.. 

                          If you are on the right track and it sounds like you are the output is probably a mixture of BEMF and radiant energy.  This will change the chemical makeup internally of caps and batteries and improve there perfomance over time.  It will also strengthen the magnets.  Negative energy as opposed to positive energy is constructive as opposed to destructive and also has many health benifits.  Positive energy has many health risks as people are finding out with Cancers and Luekemia's due to the damage to cells it causes particullarly AC which causes the water molecules to spin constantly and makes it difficult for cells to process water through the membrain walls where they have to pass through in a particular orientation.  DC and pulsed DC is less problematical to human life. 

                          When the air is very dry caps in good condition can self charge from static electricity in the air or eviroment but this sounds like it is very much related to the type of charge you are getting from your motor.
                          This gets more interesting by the email, Great work.

                          Regards and best wishes,
                          Russel


                          On1/02/2013 5:12 p.m., Colin Jamieson wrote:
                           

                          HiRussel,hope the new year is turning out ok for you, have you had a chance to check out that circuit of mine? you have probably been too busy, I thought I would touch base with and tell you some of the things that have happenned. I now am using a unregulated power supply and boy there is a major drop in drive current. Also I have bemf gain, the input to the Adams motor is dc so I can accurately measure the input current and voltage, I'm using the back emf to drive a 1 watt bulb and the input is .809watt, when the bulb is lighted the voltage is still climbing so bemf is a bit over 1 watt which is slightly more than I'm getting from my Gen coils but at the moment there is only 2 gen coils. The dc converter I'm using to step up drive voltage, the output transistors of it get quite warm and they both have desent size heatsinks so there would be a bit of wastage there, the converter is suppose to be 94% efficient. The switching Fet of adams motor which the converter supplies is cool and the switching Fet has no heatsink at all.
                           The cap that gets charged from the bemf seems to recharge itself, when I stop the motor and power is disconnected the bulb lights up on and off for about 20mins.
                          A lot of articles I have read about the Adams motor talk about how gravity is involved and weight getting less, I notice that when water is drained from a sink or container it always goes in anticlock spiral, my adams motor goes clockwise so I thought I would make it spin anticlock, well the speed increase by 200 rpm but I think because the rotor now sees the gen coils first that maybe the reason, cheers Colin


                          --- On Fri,30/11/12, Russel Prier <russelp@...> wrote:

                          From: Russel Prier <russelp@...>
                          Subject: Re: [adamsmotor] Adams motor
                          To: adamsmotor@yahoogroups.com
                          Date: Friday, 30, November, 2012, 10:13 PM



                          Wow that is great news,  I am going to have to crank up my coil winder again.   The extra energy is often described as gravitational energy and so a sensitive person would be likely to detect a change when they walk in the room.  I dont think it is gravitational energy but comes from the same source as gravity. 
                          I can imagine it is aesy to wreck cheap meters measuring voltages when you have flyback voltages around because they can go very high so fast that you need a really fast scope to even see them.  My 60 Meg scope will barely catch them at times..  I have blown up my frequency counter also measuring the pulse rate feeding into a battery as for some reason the battery voltage on a 12 volt lead acid battery went to over 100 volts in a matter of seconds while I was watching something else and the counter was fried.  It was some sort of surface charge on the battery and that was with a Bedini Motor.

                          Have you seen this by John Bedini I am thinking about

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