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  • dan ghiocel
    AND, God is not man! Therefore the anthropomorphism is wrong . Dan G ... [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
    Message 1 of 245 , Jul 1, 2013
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      AND, God is not man! Therefore the anthropomorphism is wrong .
      Dan G
      On 6/30/2013 11:27 PM, mangummurdock wrote:
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      > I prefer http://carm.org/dictionary-creation. Creation is everything
      > that exists except God himself. This includes material as well as
      > immaterial things and time. God is the creator, (Heb. 11:3) we are the
      > creatures. The creator/creature distinction must be maintained to
      > properly remain in humble relationship with God. Man is not God,
      > cannot create, nor can mankind help himself by doing good in order to
      > be saved. God alone has the ability to save man.
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      > --- In achristianvsatheistclub@yahoogroups.com
      > <mailto:achristianvsatheistclub%40yahoogroups.com>, dan ghiocel
      > <dan@...> wrote:
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      > > The only problem with the creationism is the anthropomorphism of God.
      > > Dan G
      > > On 6/30/2013 10:45 PM, mangummurdock wrote:
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      > > > BigAl,
      > > > Mainstream internet dictionary Merriam-Webster defines creationism as
      > > > the doctrine or theory holding that matter, the various forms of
      > life,
      > > > and the world were created by God out of nothing and usually in the
      > > > way described in Genesis.
      > > > Once again: The idea that science and religion are in perpetual
      > > > conflict is no longer taken seriously by any major historian of
      > > > science. One of the last remaining bastions of atheism survives only
      > > > at the popular level -- namely, the myth that atheistic, fact-based
      > > > science is permanently at war with a faith-based religion.
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      > > > You say the conflict comes from the Xian side and the
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      > > > this opinion is the court case in PA (Dover). I pointed out that I as
      > > > a Christian and the Christians I know support that decision. Then you
      > > > say it is the creationists who see science as the enemy. I pointed
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      > > > that creationist is a very broad term. Only literalists and young
      > > > earth creationists would object to the Dover decision.
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      > > > Once again I see you and the other bugs believing that Christians are
      > > > at war with science. This is the bug myth. This is the bug faith.
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      > > > is the bug religious cult.
      > > > mangum
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      > > > --- In achristianvsatheistclub@yahoogroups.com
      > <mailto:achristianvsatheistclub%40yahoogroups.com>
      > > > <mailto:achristianvsatheistclub%40yahoogroups.com>, Alan BigAl
      > > > <nalatal@> wrote:
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      > > > > I do not make up dictionary definitions Murdock, I just repeat
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      > > > That you do not like it is irrelevant, take it up with the dictionary
      > > > writers. A xian definition is bias at best, so lets just stick with
      > > > mainstream dictionaries shall we...
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      > > > > Alan
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      > > > > To: achristianvsatheistclub@yahoogroups.com
      > <mailto:achristianvsatheistclub%40yahoogroups.com>
      > > > <mailto:achristianvsatheistclub%40yahoogroups.com>
      > > > > From: no_reply@yahoogroups.com
      > <mailto:no_reply%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:no_reply%40yahoogroups.com>
      > > > > Date: Sun, 30 Jun 2013 21:59:56 +0000
      > > > > Subject: [A ChristianVsAtheist Club] Re: Atheist Myth
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      > > > > BigAl,
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      > > > > **"substantially as they now exist" ** is your bug creation within
      > > > the definition. From a Christian perception/definition **Creation is
      > > > everything that exists except God himself. This includes material as
      > > > well as immaterial things [like natural laws] and time. God is the
      > > > creator, (Heb. 11:3) we are the creatures. The creator/creature
      > > > distinction must be maintained to properly remain in humble
      > > > relationship with God. Man is not God, cannot create, nor can mankind
      > > > help himself by doing good in order to be saved. God alone has the
      > > > ability to save man** . Do you as a bug reject this definition? mangum
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      > > > > --- In achristianvsatheistclub@yahoogroups.com
      > <mailto:achristianvsatheistclub%40yahoogroups.com>
      > > > <mailto:achristianvsatheistclub%40yahoogroups.com>, Alan BigAl
      > > > <nalatal@> wrote:
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      > > > > > Not a broad term at all dear heart. Creationist; the doctrine
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      > > > matter and all things were created , substantially as they now exist,
      > > > by an omnipotent Creator, and not gradually evolved or developed.
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      > > > > > Care to try again dear boy???
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      > > > > > Alan
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      > > > > > To: achristianvsatheistclub@yahoogroups.com
      > <mailto:achristianvsatheistclub%40yahoogroups.com>
      > > > <mailto:achristianvsatheistclub%40yahoogroups.com>
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      > > > > > From: no_reply@yahoogroups.com
      > <mailto:no_reply%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:no_reply%40yahoogroups.com>
      > > > >
      > > > > > Date: Sun, 30 Jun 2013 20:44:23 +0000
      > > > >
      > > > > > Subject: [A ChristianVsAtheist Club] Re: Atheist Myth
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      > > > > > BigAl,
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      > > > > > Creationist is even a more broad term. What Christian, including
      > > > me, does not believe God created the universe? But I and all the
      > > > Christians I know agree with the Dover decision. Again you have found
      > > > yourself in the proverbial bug corner blowing smoke out your little
      > > > insect ass. mangum
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      > > > > > --- In achristianvsatheistclub@yahoogroups.com
      > <mailto:achristianvsatheistclub%40yahoogroups.com>
      > > > <mailto:achristianvsatheistclub%40yahoogroups.com>, Alan BigAl
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      > > > science as the enemy??? I did and if you do not recall this then
      > > > perhaps you should pay closer attention. At no time did I ever say
      > > > all. So you thinking I painted with a broad brush does not stand
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      > > > scrutiny. You are trying to create something that does not exist,
      > > > which is how your mind works anyway.
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    • lord_of_the_munch
      Don t be so hard on yourself. It s not your fault you ended up with the DNA that you did.
      Message 245 of 245 , Jul 6, 2013
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        Don't be so hard on yourself. It's not your fault you ended up with the DNA that you did.



        --- In achristianvsatheistclub@yahoogroups.com, Silk <silkvain@...> wrote:
        >
        > Some emotional cripple posted:..
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