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  • chaosmanifested
    I haven t read that version yet but am planning on ordering it soon
    Message 1 of 7 , Mar 25, 2010
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      I haven't read that version yet but am planning on ordering it soon
      --- In abramelin@yahoogroups.com, Athena <oipteaapdoce@...> wrote:
      >
      > Btw, have you read the German translation by Dehn? I highly recommend it.
      > I thought I would mention since you have refereed to the Mathers (French)
      > translation.
      >
      > Athena
      > --
      > www.enochian.org
      >
      > On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 8:46 AM, chaosmanifested
      > <chaosmanifested@...>wrote:
      >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > > I was off with the crown bit since your all wondering what I am talking
      > > about. Its been awhile since I read the Abramelin text(I recall reading a
      > > crown was needed as well was a wand of almond.)
      > >
      > > --- In abramelin@yahoogroups.com <abramelin%40yahoogroups.com>, Athena
      > > <oipteaapdoce@> wrote:
      > > >
      > > > I spent months doing the bornless, not even close.
      > > > No, do NOT personalize the operation, it was written that way for a
      > > reason.
      > > > The only personalization bit is covered under the if you are Pagan
      > > section
      > > > in the book.
      > > >
      > > > Yes, seclusion is definitely needed. I have gone into great detail about
      > > > why in other posts. However it is needed progressively more in the last
      > > > third of the working, and absolutely essential during the last week and
      > > the
      > > > week after you have completed the working.
      > > > Not sure what you mean by crown.
      > > >
      > > > I would say 80% of the questions on this list are how can I take
      > > shortcuts
      > > > and how many can I take. I think people should take this working more
      > > > seriously. It is not a hurry up and do thing, it is a plan your life
      > > around
      > > > it thing since it may be the single most important working you ever
      > > perform.
      > > >
      > > > Athena
      > > > --
      > > > www.enochian.org
      > > >
      > > > On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 6:30 PM, chaosmanifested
      > > > <chaosmanifested@>wrote:
      > >
      > > >
      > > > >
      > > > >
      > > > > I've known about this operation for almost 10 years yet haven't looked
      > > at
      > > > > on a serious note till recently(my personal idea of the HGA has ranged
      > > from
      > > > > different concepts). I know of a handful of ways of trying to achieve
      > > this.
      > > > > The common way is from the old Mather's edition of The Sacred Magic of
      > > > > Abramelin is more of hermit-like approach using constant traditional
      > > prayer
      > > > > for a period of 6-9 months. The other way I've heard of preforming
      > > > > this(which I call the Crowley Method) is preforming the Bornless
      > > Ritual(I've
      > > > > actually seen varients using the enochian language for the base but
      > > still
      > > > > using the barbarous to using your specific Higher-self/Angel name
      > > derived
      > > > > from the proceedures in Chapter 26/27 of 3 Books of Occult Philosphy
      > > instead
      > > > > of Aiwass/Paphro Osorronophris<I forget exactly which book its in>)
      > > instead
      > > > > of prayer for the 6-9 month period, in or out of seclusion(except for
      > > the
      > > > > final part of the operation). The other way is doing the Abramelin
      > > operation
      > > > > but not quite going into hermit-like seclusion but keeping to yourself
      > > for
      > > > > the most part however as I mentioned before, the final part of the
      > > operation
      > > > > is almost entirely spent in meditation/prayer.
      > > > > So what this comes down to being is this- Is the entire operation
      > > suppose
      > > > > to be personalized and ontop of that, is the seclusion needed as long
      > > as
      > > > > other people don't know about it? Oh yeah, on a more tool related note-
      > > > > finding an almond wand is really hard, I have yet to find a place that
      > > I can
      > > > > get a branch of almond or an almond wand, let alone a crown
      > > > >
      > > > >
      > > > >
      > > >
      > > >
      > > >
      > > > --
      > > > Odo cicle qaa
      > > > --
      > > > www.enochian.org
      > > >
      > > > "When a thing is hidden away with so much pains, merely to repeal it is
      > > to
      > > > destroy it." Tertullian
      > > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      >
      >
      >
      > --
      > Odo cicle qaa
      > --
      > www.enochian.org
      >
      > "When a thing is hidden away with so much pains, merely to repeal it is to
      > destroy it." Tertullian
      >
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