Re:Saving for the Working
- Thank you Georg-
Very interesting idea that I did not consider. I had to google/wiki what you're talking about to get a better understanding, and found:
However, I think athena is right in that the first robe must be wool or linen- linen being make from flax not cotton, correct?
--- In firstname.lastname@example.org, Voltaire07 <voltaire07@...> wrote:
> dear Daniel
> the silk has been a topic before, but now as it comes to it:
> The material is important.
> Silk has certain very unique qualities, that makes it different from all
> textiles. It derives generally from it's electric properties. These are
> entirely different to wool, and intrinsic. Cotton is vegetable and is
> like opposite. It contains nothing of that. Firstly it is not hte
> question of plus and minus. It is plus and zero.
> I am sure the silk is the turning point and the cotton is only guarding
> the precious silk from the moisture and fat carried by the sweat You
> immit whole day long, even if You don't recognize it.
> This is the reason for the advice to wash the cloth so often and
> thoroughly. Sweat changes the substance of cotton chemical/physically
> into another kind of actor. Then it becomes negative electric. I am not
> deep in these things, but it must correlate with the butteracid that 's
> been generated by the microbes of the skin and the sweat.
> So, cotton is a guard for the silk and silk is the important material.
> I merely guess, that one of the different effects is also, that You can
> more easilky transform the vibration of your nerves and spirit. I don't
> know the correlations, but we talk about Alpha, Beta . . . Theta
> vibrations that might be reached in more or less deep experiences.
> As I said in other occasions meditation is the best addition to prayer
> and it even can be the same.
> I mean the "real" meditation. Sitting upright in any position, only
> importance is the vertical spine. Then breathe and calm down to the
> point were You don't hear the air breathing through the nose. (Silence
> is never been taught as far as I know, but it is my own optimum
> experience). May take weeks only to get this. Never mind. And then
> always remember to throw away thoughts and phantasies and emotions that
> might come up.
> Have You ever worn a silk suite? You'll get addicted. They say it is so
> light, but the fact is the different enegry it causes physically. Go to
> a first class taylor, pretend You're looking for one and try it out.
> For the expenses. If You invest 5000 bucks, why ask for 150 for the silk?
> Love Georg
- itis the position of consciousness. Mind and spirit work vertical, not
You will never loose the basic awareness which is connected to the
balancing. This is an important detail.
Meditation is tuning in, not tuning off.
- hi Daniel,
we are talking about times 600 years back.
They had nothing else than Wool and Linen/Flachs which could be hemp but
AvW advised wool or linen and I think he meant it in the way of somethng
cheap or ordinary. I am convinced that cotton serves the same.
The point is, that Flachs is vegetable. I would prefer the plant because
wool is too near related to the Silk and for the before mentioned
purpose of cleaning too. As we nowadays know so much about the
incredible qualities of hemp, I would try to get hemp.
Same with the incense. The ingredients are just the most easy ones and
he adds, you can use any good smelling kind of wood. I would suggest
Sandal, which might be easy to get. Try to find a catholic equipment
dealer or ask a priest where he gets his incense. They have gorgious
qualities and get them very cheap. I still use the incense I took from
Egypt. 3 kg twenty years ago. I sold 20 or 50 g every once in a while
but it is still some left over. And it cost me maybe 25 $. AvW's problem
was the same as Your's: incense was precious in those times. When he
says, he needed a lot, that means maybe 20g a week. Surely if You do it
hardcore, then You need 50g. But not more. So You can calculate.
What they sell inthe witchcraft shops is nothing else than
housewife-sourcery. Your angel will never ask, if it is Indian oder
Yemen or Ethiopia? Or which mixture it containes, as long it lacks of
The oil is something else. He tries to explain very thoroughly and not
so rough as with the incense. The deeper meaning I have not discovered.
Your costa of Olive oil are much too high. I guess You should calculate
not more than 10 liters. Therefore You can use extra virgin, cold
pressed best quality.
Same with the coal. Did You ever use incense? One or two pieces last for
hours. So for 18 months a barbeque-pack of 10kg or take two 'em are more
than enough. In germany it is maybe 8 Euros altogether.
The almond. twig might be of certain importance like the oil.. In our
south-western part of Germany, where the city of Worms is situated we
can get almonds. You still find wild ones whiich derive from the Romans
who introduced them. If the advice for the Almond twig comes orignally
from Abramelin, it might be of even more popularity in Egypt. The tree
is a typcal mediterranian. I found the recipe of the spanish Paella,
which traditionally is boiled on a fire of Pinewood or Almondwood.
It is very interestnig, that in the middle ages there is a relation and
even identity of the dowsing rod and the wand. Only, I found no source
talking about the wood that should be used. I could think, that the
almond cariies a special symbolical meaning and also vibrational energy,
just from the fact, that it is a Rosacea. It has the typical 5 leaved
flower. The mediaval Iranans raised it very intense and they were (still
are) mad of Roses. From that point we come to the Mystic, western and/or
Sufi, no difference.
The electric phenomenon is much more differentiated than the
measurements they issue in Wkipedia, but it is the right direction.
It is like talking about the influnce of the moon and they tell You
about the tides. It is nice, but only natural science.
What we do is empirical and contains so much more deep insights, they
can only dream about. Just give You one basic difference:
Natural Science is "quantitative" science.
We - like alternative healers, Shamans, geomancers, astrologers,
holistic or transpersonal psychologists . . . are doing "qualitative"
We live in another world. The tragedy lies in the fact, that we can see
both worlds and experience both, but for the academics only the
"ordinary" world is visible and "true".
thank You for asking. It is always good to have critical minds and
curious spirits around. It is a pleasure to write You. (Only a question
- Thanks Georg-
Your posts are always insightful. I tried to overestimate just to be safe. Maybe the quantitative and qualitative sciences will come together in the near future ;)