Re: Greetings, Friends of God!
- --- In firstname.lastname@example.org, daniel culver <danielson_07@...>
>religions are one. The names do not matter so much to me. I feel like
> Thanks hecubin.. Wise advice indeed. I realize now that all
repitition (salat,zikr,wadu, listening to sohba etc), especially
through the medium of sufism I practiced, was the key to my practical
success in spiritual progress. At the same time, I felt like there
was more beyond me that I could have done to gain more
wisdom,knowledge and faith.
>occult at all.. I felt like joining a sufi order (remaing nameless)
> The time I was practicing sufism, I was not experienced in the
in my locality (as opposed to working through a different one's
published practices) would bring me to more knowledge in this area. I
became discouraged because of the psuedo-authoritarian vibe around
the group and decided not to return.. becoming disillusioned 'til
this day- essentially.
>don't know how! I feel like christianity basically lacks the
> I wish to continue my original christian roots- but to be honest I
structure for me to build a foundation from.. I'm extremely
interested in building this up- if I can just figure out how in a way
that interests me.
Rhythmic repition is, indeed, useful for inducing altered states.
By 'vain repitition' I had only intended to denote 'going through the
rote' without the requisite virtue; i.e. an empty ritual. The virtue
is more important than the ritual; the ritual is only there to
confirm your will and express your will by an action, that's all. I
hope that clarifies things; I hadn't thought I would have caused so
much confusion with those words, but evidently I have.
To your struggle with God in the guise of religion: When the student
is ready, the master will appear. Just remember that the Wisdom of
God lurks everywhere, even in the foolishness of mere men, and that
the decision to change religions should be approached with the same
gravity as the decision to marry.
Don't be disillusioned, if you can help it at all. Call to mind the
first book of Abramelin, wherein Abraham recounts all the vain
idolatry he was offered during his own search for a spiritual 'candle
in the darkness'... by his own admission, it was only after many
years of searching that he finally found one.
- Thanks hecubin.. wise words again. I had hoped that is what you meant
earlier. I'm not quite sure how I could really take up christianity
again,however, because I have already came to the personal belief that
he is not the literal 'son of God' (but had a miraculous birth), or
that he was resurrected, etc. So although I still truly respect his
teachings and believe he was a prophet, I feel like I eventually MUST
go back to sufism/islam.. Just without initiation into orders and the
like. I would like to think my 'master' is God and my HGA- who
will 'come' when I have completed the operation.
--- In email@example.com, Athena <oipteaapdoce@...> wrote:
> They are already there. The working is to help you remove the
> your idea of separation.
> On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 6:39 AM, daniel <danielson_07@...> wrote:
> > . I would like to think my 'master' is God and my HGA- who
> > will 'come' when I have completed the operation.