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Re: The Barracks

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  • Cliff
    Remember, I am going upstream, so yes, it does bypass the obstacle. Cliff
    Message 1 of 32 , Jun 26, 2011
      Remember, I am going upstream, so yes, it does bypass the obstacle.
      Cliff



      --- In Zion_National_Park_Hiking@yahoogroups.com, "Joe Braun" <joe@...> wrote:
      >
      > Cliff - I looked at your bypass photo and it just takes you up and around a narrow section of river above the obstacle, correct? (If so, I have been up and down it.) But your bypass doesn't avoid the actual boulder obstacle and logjam waterfall, correct? It looks like the boulder and logjam mess are still downstream in your photo.
      >
      > --- In Zion_National_Park_Hiking@yahoogroups.com, "Cliff" <kol84b@> wrote:
      > >
      > > Yes, but you might need to remove it and bring it up separately -or lower it, depending on which way you are going. I was traveling upstream, and it was a little bit of a struggle to climb it with my medium size pack still on.
      > > Cliff
      > >
      > >
      > > --- In Zion_National_Park_Hiking@yahoogroups.com, "jdg17" <jdg17@> wrote:
      > > >
      > > >
      > > > Thanks for the reference, Cliff. That definitely is a lot of water coming over the top.
      > > >
      > > > Is the bypass suitable for someone with a big pack?
      > > >
      > > > Thanks,
      > > > - Jamal
      > > >
      > > > www.AcrossUtah.com
      > > >
      > > >
      > > > --- In Zion_National_Park_Hiking@yahoogroups.com, "Cliff" <kol84b@> wrote:
      > > > >
      > > > >
      > > > > The kayakers were already downstream from the Checkerboard exit when we met
      > > > > them.
      > > > > The route around the logjam is just upstream from it. I put another photo showing me standing just above the jam while the photographer is still up above.
      > > > > According to the website, water flow was about three times normal, but this was about the only place it showed. There was another spot, just above the obstacle shortly before the falls. We didn't go past because the water was so deep going around the rock we were standing on that we thought it might be difficult to get back up. Plus, we were a little pressed for time, we had to be out of the canyon to meet our ride at 5:00 P.M.
      > > > >
      > > > >
      > > > > --- In Zion_National_Park_Hiking@yahoogroups.com, "Joe Braun" <joe@> wrote:
      > > > > >
      > > > > > Hi Cliff -- Thanks for sharing. Wow, that looks like serious stuff with the extra waterflow. How obvious or far above is the rockfall alternative? I'd read about it (in Falcon, I think) and have looked for it several times, but I must be blind; I have never been able to find any option other than going right through the falls. (And in those conditions, I think I would be in trouble.) I have climbed around behind a rockfall above the obstacle, but the route didn't seem to continue past the obstacle.
      > > > > >
      > > > > > Also amazed to hear of kayakers in the East Fork going over Labyrinth into NRA territory. Funny to imagine people carrying their kayaks out the Checkerboard Mesa hike.
      > > > > >
      > > > > > --- In Zion_National_Park_Hiking@yahoogroups.com, "Cliff" <kol84b@> wrote:
      > > > > > >
      > > > > > > I am briefly resurrecting an old thread to talk about a hike I did last Saturday. I knew that the water levels were higher than normal in Parunaweap but wanted to go anyway. I added a photo to my "Barracks Obstacle" folder in the photos section of what the obstacle described below looks like in high water conditions. I need to add that my nephew took this picture, my camera was out of commission for this run. We were able to get past this spot by crawling through an old rockfall on the right. (Going up stream)
      > > > > > > This hike is starting to get crowded, relatively speaking. We met a couple of other hikers on the way to Misery, but they were moving faster than my group so they were not a factor in our hike. While in Parunaweap we saw a couple of -believe it or not - kayakers floating and pulling their boat downstream. I asked them what they were going to do about the falls, and they said "We have the equipment", and then I mentioned that it was not legal, but they were past by then. I have to wonder how that excursion played out. Cliff
      > > > > > >
      > > > > > >
      > > > > > > --- In Zion_National_Park_Hiking@yahoogroups.com, "JoeB" <joe@> wrote:
      > > > > > > >
      > > > > > > > Hi Jamal - The one possible obstacle of note is a little upstream of
      > > > > > > > Misery Canyon; check out the 3rd photo on this page:
      > > > > > > > http://www.citrusmilo.com/zion2004/ilovezion2.cfm
      > > > > > > >
      > > > > > > > I've been at this spot twice and once it was waist-deep and once it
      > > > > > > > was chest-deep. It's not really a problem except that you want to
      > > > > > > > keep your sleeping bag and other gear dry. The Barracks doesn't have
      > > > > > > > many obstacles, but the riverbottom has a lot of clay so you sink
      > > > > > > > more than in the Narrows. Definitely keep an eye on water levels
      > > > > > > > beforehand because things could get pretty hairy during a big spring
      > > > > > > > run off. -Joe
      > > > > > > >
      > > > > > > >
      > > > > > > > --- In Zion_National_Park_Hiking@yahoogroups.com, "Jamal Green"
      > > > > > > > <jdg17@> wrote:
      > > > > > > > >
      > > > > > > > > Hey all--
      > > > > > > > >
      > > > > > > > > Looking to go through The Barracks as part of a longer hike. How
      > > > > > > > tough
      > > > > > > > > would be be to enter via Checkerboard Mesa route and then go up-
      > > > > > > > stream
      > > > > > > > > with a big pack? Looking at doing this in late April-- possibly
      > > > > > > > with a
      > > > > > > > > heavy run-off. How do the obstacles compare with those in The
      > > > > > > > Narrows?
      > > > > > > > > Is this a bad idea?
      > > > > > > > >
      > > > > > > > > Thanks,
      > > > > > > > >
      > > > > > > > > -Jamal
      > > > > > > > >
      > > > > > > > > www.curbpavement.com
      > > > > > > > >
      > > > > > > >
      > > > > > >
      > > > > >
      > > > >
      > > >
      > >
      >
    • Cliff
      Remember, I am going upstream, so yes, it does bypass the obstacle. Cliff
      Message 32 of 32 , Jun 26, 2011
        Remember, I am going upstream, so yes, it does bypass the obstacle.
        Cliff



        --- In Zion_National_Park_Hiking@yahoogroups.com, "Joe Braun" <joe@...> wrote:
        >
        > Cliff - I looked at your bypass photo and it just takes you up and around a narrow section of river above the obstacle, correct? (If so, I have been up and down it.) But your bypass doesn't avoid the actual boulder obstacle and logjam waterfall, correct? It looks like the boulder and logjam mess are still downstream in your photo.
        >
        > --- In Zion_National_Park_Hiking@yahoogroups.com, "Cliff" <kol84b@> wrote:
        > >
        > > Yes, but you might need to remove it and bring it up separately -or lower it, depending on which way you are going. I was traveling upstream, and it was a little bit of a struggle to climb it with my medium size pack still on.
        > > Cliff
        > >
        > >
        > > --- In Zion_National_Park_Hiking@yahoogroups.com, "jdg17" <jdg17@> wrote:
        > > >
        > > >
        > > > Thanks for the reference, Cliff. That definitely is a lot of water coming over the top.
        > > >
        > > > Is the bypass suitable for someone with a big pack?
        > > >
        > > > Thanks,
        > > > - Jamal
        > > >
        > > > www.AcrossUtah.com
        > > >
        > > >
        > > > --- In Zion_National_Park_Hiking@yahoogroups.com, "Cliff" <kol84b@> wrote:
        > > > >
        > > > >
        > > > > The kayakers were already downstream from the Checkerboard exit when we met
        > > > > them.
        > > > > The route around the logjam is just upstream from it. I put another photo showing me standing just above the jam while the photographer is still up above.
        > > > > According to the website, water flow was about three times normal, but this was about the only place it showed. There was another spot, just above the obstacle shortly before the falls. We didn't go past because the water was so deep going around the rock we were standing on that we thought it might be difficult to get back up. Plus, we were a little pressed for time, we had to be out of the canyon to meet our ride at 5:00 P.M.
        > > > >
        > > > >
        > > > > --- In Zion_National_Park_Hiking@yahoogroups.com, "Joe Braun" <joe@> wrote:
        > > > > >
        > > > > > Hi Cliff -- Thanks for sharing. Wow, that looks like serious stuff with the extra waterflow. How obvious or far above is the rockfall alternative? I'd read about it (in Falcon, I think) and have looked for it several times, but I must be blind; I have never been able to find any option other than going right through the falls. (And in those conditions, I think I would be in trouble.) I have climbed around behind a rockfall above the obstacle, but the route didn't seem to continue past the obstacle.
        > > > > >
        > > > > > Also amazed to hear of kayakers in the East Fork going over Labyrinth into NRA territory. Funny to imagine people carrying their kayaks out the Checkerboard Mesa hike.
        > > > > >
        > > > > > --- In Zion_National_Park_Hiking@yahoogroups.com, "Cliff" <kol84b@> wrote:
        > > > > > >
        > > > > > > I am briefly resurrecting an old thread to talk about a hike I did last Saturday. I knew that the water levels were higher than normal in Parunaweap but wanted to go anyway. I added a photo to my "Barracks Obstacle" folder in the photos section of what the obstacle described below looks like in high water conditions. I need to add that my nephew took this picture, my camera was out of commission for this run. We were able to get past this spot by crawling through an old rockfall on the right. (Going up stream)
        > > > > > > This hike is starting to get crowded, relatively speaking. We met a couple of other hikers on the way to Misery, but they were moving faster than my group so they were not a factor in our hike. While in Parunaweap we saw a couple of -believe it or not - kayakers floating and pulling their boat downstream. I asked them what they were going to do about the falls, and they said "We have the equipment", and then I mentioned that it was not legal, but they were past by then. I have to wonder how that excursion played out. Cliff
        > > > > > >
        > > > > > >
        > > > > > > --- In Zion_National_Park_Hiking@yahoogroups.com, "JoeB" <joe@> wrote:
        > > > > > > >
        > > > > > > > Hi Jamal - The one possible obstacle of note is a little upstream of
        > > > > > > > Misery Canyon; check out the 3rd photo on this page:
        > > > > > > > http://www.citrusmilo.com/zion2004/ilovezion2.cfm
        > > > > > > >
        > > > > > > > I've been at this spot twice and once it was waist-deep and once it
        > > > > > > > was chest-deep. It's not really a problem except that you want to
        > > > > > > > keep your sleeping bag and other gear dry. The Barracks doesn't have
        > > > > > > > many obstacles, but the riverbottom has a lot of clay so you sink
        > > > > > > > more than in the Narrows. Definitely keep an eye on water levels
        > > > > > > > beforehand because things could get pretty hairy during a big spring
        > > > > > > > run off. -Joe
        > > > > > > >
        > > > > > > >
        > > > > > > > --- In Zion_National_Park_Hiking@yahoogroups.com, "Jamal Green"
        > > > > > > > <jdg17@> wrote:
        > > > > > > > >
        > > > > > > > > Hey all--
        > > > > > > > >
        > > > > > > > > Looking to go through The Barracks as part of a longer hike. How
        > > > > > > > tough
        > > > > > > > > would be be to enter via Checkerboard Mesa route and then go up-
        > > > > > > > stream
        > > > > > > > > with a big pack? Looking at doing this in late April-- possibly
        > > > > > > > with a
        > > > > > > > > heavy run-off. How do the obstacles compare with those in The
        > > > > > > > Narrows?
        > > > > > > > > Is this a bad idea?
        > > > > > > > >
        > > > > > > > > Thanks,
        > > > > > > > >
        > > > > > > > > -Jamal
        > > > > > > > >
        > > > > > > > > www.curbpavement.com
        > > > > > > > >
        > > > > > > >
        > > > > > >
        > > > > >
        > > > >
        > > >
        > >
        >
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