Where have you been all night Bo!
- In most areas of southern utah it snows when the temperature is between
36-40 degrees. When the snow melts there is an actual increase in the air
Slippery and slick I bet that red rock is.
Bruce from Bryce
>From: "adkramoo" <adkramoo@...>
>Subject: [Zion_National_Park_Hiking] Re: Safe canyoneering
>Date: Fri, 02 Sep 2005 15:17:38 -0000
>--- In Zion_National_Park_Hiking@yahoogroups.com, luvs_to_hike
> > Question: What about snow storms? Those must present a danger.
>Last November, with Hank, Moab Matt and Levin, it snowed so hard and
>it was still a bit warm. It started a flow, in quite a narrow canyon
>(Shenanegans). That was new..and edgy. Snowstorms can make accessing
>canyons dangerous, with the slickness. It can make bourderfields slow
>, wet and difficult, but don't have much effect in the canyons proper.
> Dodging falling giant
> > icicles... ..
>Rockfall I have experienced often. Icicles have never been an issue...yet
> > Most of all --- what about changing clothes out of the wetsuit!
>That has to be awful in
> > the cold!
>Two things. In any environment, their is lots of pockets of different
>weather. The sunny exposure, the wind blocked, the alcove super heated
>by the sun. Within minutes, their is almost always a comfortable, if
>not down right balmy spot, in almost any weather.
>As to changing....well, yeah. My son has heard it enough and now
>spouts it. "It's a finite experience. Deal!" Kidding aside, it can be
>uncomfortable for a few minutes. So much so that one must just laugh
>at it, but when the dry clothes are back on, the discomfort is a
>memory within minutes. In fact the cozy feeling is better than ever.
>We don't do a ton of wet canyons in the cold, only occasionally, but
>it is no big thing. FreezeFest partners will concur. Kinda pales
>against childbirth, Tanya. How many times you done that? Now that's
> > My idea of cold weather canyoneering/backpacking would be --- short
>easy days and long
> > nights at the campfire. :)
>We agree there. Add a bunch of downclimbing, with less raps, to keep
>you moving and warm too!
> > It's so hard to get up in the morning though when its frosty
>Yeah! Having the stove set up right next to you and extra clothes
>warming in that super warm bag your in and it plays out fine.
>I love the story of
> > you guys having to thaw out your shoes before you could put them on.
>Another of those "finite experiences" You have to be careful not to
>make the water in the shoes too hot, or you can burn your feetsies.
> > I am warming up to winter stuff ---- slowly! I have the day hikes
>down in the winter.
> > When it got hot it was actually a bummer this year. I assume I will
>feel the same as it gets
> > cold now. ;)
>We do want to see you and Bo out in eastern Utah for a weekend,
>sometime before April. It is really fun and you will love those
>different type canyons, especially all the downclimbing.