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Where have you been all night Bo!

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  • luvs_to_hike
    I bet you are exhausted!
    Message 1 of 77 , Aug 20, 2005
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      I bet you are exhausted!
    • bruce silliman
      In most areas of southern utah it snows when the temperature is between 36-40 degrees. When the snow melts there is an actual increase in the air temperature.
      Message 77 of 77 , Sep 2, 2005
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        In most areas of southern utah it snows when the temperature is between
        36-40 degrees. When the snow melts there is an actual increase in the air
        temperature.

        Slippery and slick I bet that red rock is.

        Bruce from Bryce


        >From: "adkramoo" <adkramoo@...>
        >Reply-To: Zion_National_Park_Hiking@yahoogroups.com
        >To: Zion_National_Park_Hiking@yahoogroups.com
        >Subject: [Zion_National_Park_Hiking] Re: Safe canyoneering
        >Date: Fri, 02 Sep 2005 15:17:38 -0000
        >
        >--- In Zion_National_Park_Hiking@yahoogroups.com, luvs_to_hike
        ><no_reply@y...> wrote:
        > > Question: What about snow storms? Those must present a danger.
        >
        >Last November, with Hank, Moab Matt and Levin, it snowed so hard and
        >it was still a bit warm. It started a flow, in quite a narrow canyon
        >(Shenanegans). That was new..and edgy. Snowstorms can make accessing
        >canyons dangerous, with the slickness. It can make bourderfields slow
        >, wet and difficult, but don't have much effect in the canyons proper.
        >
        > Dodging falling giant
        > > icicles... ..
        >
        >Rockfall I have experienced often. Icicles have never been an issue...yet
        >
        > >
        > > Most of all --- what about changing clothes out of the wetsuit!
        >That has to be awful in
        > > the cold!
        >
        >Two things. In any environment, their is lots of pockets of different
        >weather. The sunny exposure, the wind blocked, the alcove super heated
        >by the sun. Within minutes, their is almost always a comfortable, if
        >not down right balmy spot, in almost any weather.
        >As to changing....well, yeah. My son has heard it enough and now
        >spouts it. "It's a finite experience. Deal!" Kidding aside, it can be
        >uncomfortable for a few minutes. So much so that one must just laugh
        >at it, but when the dry clothes are back on, the discomfort is a
        >memory within minutes. In fact the cozy feeling is better than ever.
        >We don't do a ton of wet canyons in the cold, only occasionally, but
        >it is no big thing. FreezeFest partners will concur. Kinda pales
        >against childbirth, Tanya. How many times you done that? Now that's
        >nuts!! ;-)
        >R
        >
        > > My idea of cold weather canyoneering/backpacking would be --- short
        >easy days and long
        > > nights at the campfire. :)
        >
        >We agree there. Add a bunch of downclimbing, with less raps, to keep
        >you moving and warm too!
        > >
        > > It's so hard to get up in the morning though when its frosty
        >outside!!!!
        >
        >Yeah! Having the stove set up right next to you and extra clothes
        >warming in that super warm bag your in and it plays out fine.
        >
        >I love the story of
        > > you guys having to thaw out your shoes before you could put them on.
        >
        >Another of those "finite experiences" You have to be careful not to
        >make the water in the shoes too hot, or you can burn your feetsies.
        >
        > >
        > > I am warming up to winter stuff ---- slowly! I have the day hikes
        >down in the winter.
        > > When it got hot it was actually a bummer this year. I assume I will
        >feel the same as it gets
        > > cold now. ;)
        >
        >
        >We do want to see you and Bo out in eastern Utah for a weekend,
        >sometime before April. It is really fun and you will love those
        >different type canyons, especially all the downclimbing.
        >Ram
        >
        >
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