- Jan 2, 2009Holler when you may be coming out? If at all possible I'd love the
opportunity to join you!? Tanya and I followed Upper Red Wash up for
maybe 1-2 miles toward the Elkhart Cliffs maybe 3 years ago, but
never went up to the rim. If I can I'd love to give it another shot
--- In Zion_National_Park_Hiking@yahoogroups.com, "Clayton Palmer"
> I usually went across behind the Sousa'a land up the ridge and
> followed the 4 wheeler tracks to just above upper sand wash's
> entrance to the slot. The lower one I went to by crossing near Ed's
> place and taking another 4 wheeler track to near the mouth of lower
> sand wash slot.
> I was asking because I want to come out next spring for a couple
> weeks and try again to get to the higher reaches below Elkheart
> and the main drainage to the east. I have attempted it once but inI'd
> order to follow the east drainage one has to drop into the upper
> wash above the slots and would require a rope to climb back out.
> Thanks for the access to the maps you have tho.--- In
> Zion_National_Park_Hiking@yahoogroups.com, "bomabro84738"
> <bbeck@> wrote:
> > Gary, I (Tanya) got a map from the records office in Kanab a
> > years ago as we were looking to update our directions for both
> > and Upper Red Cave Hikes (Sand Washes on USGS 7.5 Maps). It seems
> > there was no way to access either without crossing private
> > The Sorensons and Taits are the majority landholders along with
> > family whether approaching from the south, west or north. The
> > access to both washes is probably done by getting permission from
> > Tait in Mt. Carmel, and taking Tait Lane across the East Fork,
> > bypassing the leased aggregate/equipment lot, steering north up
> > hillside then east and finally southeast dropping into Upper Sand
> > A fair chunk uf Lower Sand Wash is held by Sorenson and
> > has a ditch dug across to prevent travel east to the mouth of
> > Lower "Cave" but the county and state has asked that this not be
> > The BLM has been working on trying to establish easement across
> > holdings to access BLM lands that encompass both Upper and Lower
> > Washes all the way to the white cliffs of the Grand Staircase/
> > Escalante NM. I think if you talk to Del Tait it should not
> present any
> > problem for you to access the Washes from Mt. Carmel.
> > Here is a link to Tanyas and my website along with a map and
> > instructions for permission to access. I'm sure that you are
> > aware of the entire area Gary (much more than I) but I thought
> > an explanation for other interested parties as well!
> > http://www.zionnational-park.com/zion-red-cave.htm
> > Happy New Year to you Gary! Sounds like a fun festivity going on
> up in
> > Jackson!
> > Bo
> > --- In Zion_National_Park_Hiking@yahoogroups.com, "Clayton
> > <garyclaytonpalmer@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Do you know who owns the land in upper Sand Wash upstream from
> > > Cave where the wash starts near the White Cliffs and Glendale
> > > ? Is it National Forest or private land.
> > >
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