- Jan 1, 2009I usually went across behind the Sousa'a land up the ridge and
followed the 4 wheeler tracks to just above upper sand wash's
entrance to the slot. The lower one I went to by crossing near Ed's
place and taking another 4 wheeler track to near the mouth of lower
sand wash slot.
I was asking because I want to come out next spring for a couple
weeks and try again to get to the higher reaches below Elkheart Peak
and the main drainage to the east. I have attempted it once but in
order to follow the east drainage one has to drop into the upper
wash above the slots and would require a rope to climb back out.
Thanks for the access to the maps you have tho.--- In
> Gary, I (Tanya) got a map from the records office in Kanab a
> years ago as we were looking to update our directions for bothLower
> and Upper Red Cave Hikes (Sand Washes on USGS 7.5 Maps). It seemsthat
> there was no way to access either without crossing privateholdings.
> The Sorensons and Taits are the majority landholders along withTanyas
> family whether approaching from the south, west or north. Theeasiest
> access to both washes is probably done by getting permission fromDel
> Tait in Mt. Carmel, and taking Tait Lane across the East Fork,the
> bypassing the leased aggregate/equipment lot, steering north up
> hillside then east and finally southeast dropping into Upper SandWash.
> A fair chunk uf Lower Sand Wash is held by Sorenson andoccasionally
> has a ditch dug across to prevent travel east to the mouth ofdone.
> Lower "Cave" but the county and state has asked that this not be
> The BLM has been working on trying to establish easement acrossprivate
> holdings to access BLM lands that encompass both Upper and LowerSand
> Washes all the way to the white cliffs of the Grand Staircase/present any
> Escalante NM. I think if you talk to Del Tait it should not
> problem for you to access the Washes from Mt. Carmel.already
> Here is a link to Tanyas and my website along with a map and
> instructions for permission to access. I'm sure that you are
> aware of the entire area Gary (much more than I) but I thought I'dgive
> an explanation for other interested parties as well!up in
> Happy New Year to you Gary! Sounds like a fun festivity going on
> --- In Zion_National_Park_Hiking@yahoogroups.com, "Clayton Palmer"
> <garyclaytonpalmer@> wrote:
> > Do you know who owns the land in upper Sand Wash upstream from
> > Cave where the wash starts near the White Cliffs and GlendaleBench.
> > ? Is it National Forest or private land.
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