Notes from the 7th Maria-sama ga Miteru Novel, Part 1 - Spoilers
- Notes from the 7th Maria-sama ga Miteru Novel (Itoshiki Toshitsuki/The
Loving Times) Part One
There was a fair amount cut out of this book for the anime, but also a
lot of stuff that was done straight. The stuff that was cut out was
mostly insightful chitchat that, while fascinating, I can totally
understand why it was cut.
The opening scene has Eriko and Sei running into each other in the
hall (not literally) and Eriko mistaking the lyrics of a song for
something else. When they part, she's left with lingering thoughts of
Rosa Foetida Full Speed Ahead
1) Minako, newspaper club president and tabloid editor-in-training,
does not want to just report news she wants to make it. As in make
it up. Currently, she's frustrated because she's trying to discover
where the Rosas are planning to go to college. The en bouton aren't
saying and the en bouton petite soeur are clueless. Minako gives us
her opinions on the latter: Yoshino is suspicious by nature and
doesn't care about anything other than "Rei-chan." Yumi is a terrible
liar, so she really doesn't know anything.
Minako overhears three of the newspaper club members wondering why the
Roses took exams at all. (And within this scene is, ironically,
annoyed at Mami for questioning them like she, Mami, is researching an
The three first-years discuss the main criteria for going to a school
other than Lillian the desire to be in a coeducational institution.
Minako thinks that this doesn't apply to Rosa Gigantea or Rosa
Chinensis neither of them would particularly care whether their
school had guys or not - but Rosa Foetida would definitely be going
somewhere else, because going to school with guys would be "an
Minako, it turns out, is also marginally jealous of Mami's knowledge
and comprehension she's constantly calling Mami her "not cute"
soeur. Minako also remembers being much quieter and cuter as a first-
year. She's sure that Mami is after a big scoop to surpass her; Minako
sees the soeur relationship like that of a teacher and student that
are locked in an eternal rivalry. Minako burns with a competitive
2) Club member A says that she saw Rosa Foetida at an amusement park
(The first years are labeled by the narrator, "Club Member A", "B" and
"C", respectively, with a little note that they did have names and
Minako certainly knew them, but for our purposes A, B, and C would
Minako assumes that Eriko was there with the rest of the Yellow Rose
family, because as she's graduating soon, it was natural to spend time
with your soeur.
(In this scene we get some foreshadowing that Mami will be
significantly worse than Minako as a newspaper club president....she's
a tough character with a steel-trap mind, and she rules Minako with an
"A" says that Eriko was with a guy. Scandal! Never before has a Rose,
especially, allowed the taint of having a lover before graduation. And
Eriko and the guy, who looks 25-26 had their arms around each other!
(Eriko's 18 in this novel.)
Club members B and C had seen her holding hands at a museum and a
high-end restaurant with 2 other older men. B had been at the museum
with her mother they had received free tickets because her father
had done work for a art client; C was at the restaurant for a family
3) The second scene of the body of the novel is our Tsutako scene, as
always. Tsutako tells Yumi all of the above in a dead-on impression of
the girls' voice. She had been in the Photography clubroom and as the
Newspaper club had talked they had become more animated and loud
so she heard them clearly. Yumi thinks Tsu ought to be in the drama
club with her talent for voices.
Tsutako gives Yumi the photos she took, pretty much to pass the burden
on to Yumi.
4) On the way up the Rose Mansion stairs, Yumi worries that if she
steps on a weak spot in the stairs, she'll fall and get hurt or die,
and someone might find the photos in her pocket...only, she'd be dead,
so it won't matter what they think to her, at least.
5) Yumi meets Yoshino in the Rose Mansion and mentions offhandedly
that she would like to talk to Eriko. Yoshino suggests calling her,
something Yumi never even considered. Yoshino suggests doing it *now*
and Yumi thinks that a desperate attraction to anything interesting
must be a Yellow Rose trait. (Yet another hint that Eriko and Yoshino
are more alike than anyone realizes.) Yumi is surprised that Yoshino
knows Eriko's home phone number by heart. (And why don't any of these
girls have cell phones? I can see them being not allowed on campus,
but at home? EVERY Japanese girl has a cell phone!)
Eriko's mother says that she doesn't know when Eriko is coming home.
Yumi thinks that its odd for a mother to not know, especially on a
school night. Yumi posits that maybe Eriko's grandmother is terminally
ill and Eriko is out visiting her. After Yoshino shoots that theory
down, Yumi reminds herself mentally to not kill off other people's
grandmothers so easily. LOL
6) The next scene is one gigantic set-up and is done completely
straight in the anime: We see Eriko at a hotel, pouring over a filled
social calendar, meeting an older man, thanking him for the clothes.
In the novel, we get the added detail that he had the clothes sent to
the hotel, where she picked them up and changed into them. Eriko muses
that he likes fur (the sweater has a fur collar) and that he has spent
a months' wages on her so far. And, sigh, another night away from
7) Yumi tells Yoshino hypothetically about "a girl" who is seen with
many men, and Yoshino suggests that its "assisted dating". To be sure
she's getting the words right, Yumi writes down the kanji. Sachiko
walks in, sees the paper and grimaces, stating that she really hates
the term "Enjyou Kousai", because its just a gilded term for
prostitution. Yumi is, quite naturally, utterly shocked to hear
Sachiko use the word "prostitution."
8) A scene you never expect in a Marimite novel: The second-years then
begin discussing adultery. Sachiko, again naturally, hates it and
likens it to prostitution as well. The first-years, including Shimako,
are gobsmacked by this conversation, and can only sit and listen with
big eyes as Sachiko and Rei have such an "adult" conversation.
9) Yumi, when questioned as to why she had that word written down at
all, lies about it, and Sachiko reaches out and taps her gently on the
head with a "you goofball"-type comment. She then comments that Sei is
right, Yumi's face really does change all the time at which Yumi
thinks that her face is reflecting her thoughts that this is more
sexual harassment by that dirty old man (oyaji remember this term...
It comes back later) of a student.
10) Yumi (who has been trying to find someone to consult about the
matter of the photos,) thinks of speaking to Sei. She sees Sei in her
mind as someone who is bright from having thrown off the darkness of a
11) When Yumi greets Sei, Sei comments that her "gokigenyou" sounds
like Yumi needs a favor. Yumi says that Sachiko sent her home early,
because everyone was busy with other things today.
Sei throws her arms around Yumi. She understands, she says, Yumi's
lonely. Well, she'll stand in for Sachiko, and hold Yumi's soft body,
she doesn't mind...
Yumi starts to think that she is a little lonely because they YYK
didn't get together, but...!
12) Sei asks Yumi if she called her name a few moments ago. Yumi says
no, but Sei thought she heard Yumi's voice. Yumi realizes that Sei was
talking about the very moment Yumi *thought* about consulting Sei.
13) The first-years call the cat "lunch", the second-years call it
"Meri-chan" and the third years call it "Goronta". Yumi had never seen
any one be able to get within a meter of the cat without it running
away, but Sei picks it up and pets it. (Goronta means something like
"Purr-y". Yumi thinks it a rude name for the cat.)
14) This section is long and was almost completely cut up in the
Sei tells Yumi that humans have violated the natural order of the
wild, and created an inferior ecosystem as a result. She explains that
Goronta, as a kitten, was being attacked by crows in the back of the
school when she found him. She saved the cat, sneaking food to him and
"believed in him" which is why he lets her close. Sei says that
Shimako told her that it was cruel thing to do, that it has made the
cat dependent upon her.
Sei had considered taking the cat home, but felt that the school was
its home now.
Throughout this conversation, there is the sense that Sei is talking
about the cat and Yumi at the same time as she speaks.
At the conclusion of this speech, she turns to Yumi and offers her cat
food. So, yeah.
Sei ends with the thought that Shimako is wrong, that Goronta (or,
indeed, Yumi) would be fine that he is a wolf that has found his
15) Sei then segues into a discussion of Shimako as a wolf that has
not found her pack. (Foreshaaaaaaadoooowiiinnnggg!) Sei tells Yumi
that she, Yumi, had a fairly easy time of it at Lillian and found her
pack relatively easily, so she wouldn't understand Shimako's feelings.
(Yumi thinks that it's not that easy being the dull, clumsy little
sister of a beautiful, intelligent princess onee-sama, and that's
she's pretty much a failure.)
Sei asks Yumi if Yumi worries constantly about what it is to be a
human and a woman.
Yumi says, no, I'm Japanese because I was born here, I'm a girl and
this is a girls' school.
But, Sei says, what if you were thrown into an English boys' school.
Yumi panics, because her English is bad.
Canada, then, or France, Sei attempts to focus Yumi on the point...
Yumi says that she'd be uncomfortable around the other students, and
her heart would pound. And Sei says, "Right. That's what its like for
Shimako right now."
Then Yumi begins to understand that Sei is protecting Shimako the same
way she did the cat and is worried about leaving for that reason too.
Sei says that Lillian hurt her, but also saved her and that she has
come to love Lillian. That friends have the power to heal. (Konno-
sensei! Please put down that foreshadowing club! We get it! We get it!
16) Eriko is thinking to herself that, in a field of chestnut horses,
a white horse stands out. Or in a plate of sweets a rice cracker
stands out. So it stands to reason that, in a life full of wealthy
men, in her mind, a poor one stands out.
When Yumi and Eriko meet up (which was slightly altered in the anime
to make Eriko a bit flakier, but was otherwise accurate) Eriko might
as well have been speaking Greek for all Yumi can understand her. LOL
(This is a little joke on my part, since "Hypsilodon" the dinosaur
Eriko mentions - is obviously a Greek word.)
17) Tsutako gives Yumi two more pictures of Eriko with men one old
enough to be her father, and one scruffy-looking guy at the zoo. Tsu
is doing two things by doing this she's passing the responsibility
to Yumi, but she's also protecting Eriko. Her assignment had been to
collect pictures as proof for the newspaper article. And, although,
she *has* gotten the proof, she doesn't want to give the pictures to
They head to the Rose Mansion, where Yumi is going to figure out what
to do about the photos, when Rosa Chinensis catches up with them.
Tsutako tries to escape, but Youko grabs her by the collar and pulls
her back. Tsutako immediately responds with, "How radiantly lovely you
look today, Rosa Chinensis..."
Youko controls Yumi and Tsutako so well, that even Yumi feels that
she's just been given a glimpse of the Youko that can control Sachiko.
18) Youko looks at the pictures and tells Tsutako and Yumi that now
she understands what's been bothering Eriko the last few days she's
19) We see Minako, who has overheard Yumi and Eriko's conversation, in
the newspaper office typing. She had, it turns out, wanted to be a
novelist before she became a journalist, and this is a great
opportunity. She writes a short story called "The Yellow Rose" about
Shimai Rieko, a girl who is working part-time at an escort club.
"Shimai" is a brutal pun. The character for "shima" looks not entirely
unlike that for "tori". So "Shimai" would read "Torii" for people
reading quickly and who were used to Eriko's family name. "Rieko" is,
of course, the characters for "e" "ri" and "ko" slightly rearranged.
Hence Shimai Rieko would be the thinnest possible veil on the true
protagonist...even without the "Yellow Rose" of the title.
In the Rose Mansion, everyone is admiring Minako's photoshopping
skills for the cover. Sachiko asks what all this is about and Sei and
Yoshino explain the technique behind the picture not at all what
Sachiko was talking about. Sachiko's temper starts to rise and Youko
begins to pull her leg to see how long it will take before she
This was hysterical, btw...as she carefully gives Sachiko just enough
info to make her nuts, Youko is also talking to Sei over her shoulder,
and Yumi is "tick-tocking" the time bomb in her head as she watches
Sachiko approaching breaking point.
Sachiko demands to know what's going on and Youko explains that Eriko
been going on dates with various older men every night. She them
summarizes the plot of the story:
Right before graduation, Shimai Rieko, "The Yellow Rose" is suffering
from ennui and an empty heart, where "a cold wind blows." She takes a
part time job at a dating club, and goes out with Mr. A, a baseball
player, on an all night drive. Then Mr. B, a surgeon, takes her to an
art museum and Mr. C, a gourmet, takes her to a fine restaurant. But
Shimai Rieko realizes that changing men like they are clothes is
futile. Her heart is still empty. She is discovered on a date by Mr.
D, a teacher at her school, who takes her home and scolds her gently.
She returns to normal student life, but looks for Mr. D. On the day of
her graduation, she decides to propose to him.
Yumi was, ultimately, the catalyst to Sachiko's explosion, figuring
that it ought to be her who bears the brunt. Sachiko explodes (Yumi's
mind: tick, tick, tick...boom!) because she thinks everyone else knew
but her. When she finds out that no one else did, she is immediately
They hear Eriko being called to the principal's office (not really,
but you know what I mean, the "Student Counseling Room" or whatever)
and they decide to all go.
20) In the hallway outside the Counselor's Office, Minako is
eavesdropping. She had seen four men and Eriko walk by into the
Counselor's Office, and three of them match the characters in her
story. She thinks out loud, "There's A, B and C why no D?" To which
Youko, who has come up immediately behind her, answers, "Because you
made him up."
Minako is trapped. She goes in with the Yamayurikai members. The nun
says they can all come in on one condition only one spokesperson can
talk. Youko is clearly that person.
21) Yes, one of the guys IS in a football uniform (and yes it is
specifically American football). The point is that all of Eriko's
brothers were interrupted mid-activity by their father. (And,
obviously, it is meant to be ironic that Minako's made-up characters
were so amazingly close to the actuality. Including, eventually, the
assumably made up Teacher D.)
22) Cut out of the anime and what a shame: When Yamanobe-sensei is
brought in by Tsutako, Minako sees him and blurts out, "Does he make
umbrellas?" That totally made me laugh.
23) When Eriko proposes, Sei (who has already broken the "don't speak"
rule several times) immediately offers a bet to Youko that Yamanobe
loses. Youko won't take the bet she says that he'll suffer a
24) Yamanobe-sensei is, among all the other reasons to not marry
Eriko, still grieving over a wife who died about a year ago.
25) This entire scene is played as a sitcom, with Yumi helpfully
supplying background noises and music in her mind for us. When
Yamanobe-sensei declines the marriage offer, she thinks that, if it
*were* a comedy, everyone would face-fault now.
26) Eriko's father accuses Yamanobe of hitting on a young girl nearly
half his age. Eriko replies that Yamanobe was too busy watching the
elephant to be paying attention to her. Dad immediately yells at
Yamanobe "You were ignoring my beautiful daughter to watch an
elephant? What's wrong with you?" lol
27) When everyone decides for Yamanobe that he'd better date Eriko,
Sei says that is he doesn't she'll just cling harder. "Snapping Turtle
Eriko, we call her."
Yumi thinks that they'd call Sei "Full of Lies Sei".
28) Sei walks over to the desk, writes out Eriko's phone number and
hands it to Yamanobe when it's been settled that he *will* date her.
End of Part 1 of Part One
- On Fri, Jul 29, 2005 at 07:13:45PM -0000, atheniag wrote:
> Notes from the 7th Maria-sama ga Miteru Novel (Itoshiki Toshitsuki/TheThanks so much for these, by the way!
> Loving Times) Part One
> 22) Cut out of the anime and what a shame: When Yamanobe-sensei isYumi gets this line in the anime: "Oh, the umbrella maker!"
> brought in by Tsutako, Minako sees him and blurts out, "Does he make
> umbrellas?" That totally made me laugh.
- --- In Yuricon@yahoogroups.com, Andy Turner <list-turner@m...> wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 29, 2005 at 07:13:45PM -0000, atheniag wrote:Toshitsuki/The
> > Notes from the 7th Maria-sama ga Miteru Novel (Itoshiki
> > Loving Times) Part OneMy pleasure! I'm glad folks enjoy them. When we get to the books not
> Thanks so much for these, by the way!
made into anime (or, as of yet, manga or Drama CD) I'll obviously let
people know what's happening in the actual plot, too.
> > 22) Cut out of the anime and what a shame: When Yamanobe-sensei is
> > brought in by Tsutako, Minako sees him and blurts out, "Does he
> > umbrellas?" That totally made me laugh.But she doesn't get to blurt it out loud, which would have been
> Yumi gets this line in the anime: "Oh, the umbrella maker!"
- On Sat, Jul 30, 2005 at 09:34:44PM -0000, atheniag wrote:
> > > 22) Cut out of the anime and what a shame: When Yamanobe-senseiBut she does. The scene goes like this: (Using the Lililicious
> > > is brought in by Tsutako, Minako sees him and blurts out, "Does
> > > he make umbrellas?" That totally made me laugh.
> > Yumi gets this line in the anime: "Oh, the umbrella maker!"
> But she doesn't get to blurt it out loud, which would have been
> funnier. :-)
translation this time.)
The camera pans up Yumi who thinks: "And his work is probably repairing umbrellas."
The door opens, Yumi and Sachiko turn, Yumi points and exclaims: "Ah! the
- --- In Yuricon@yahoogroups.com, Andy Turner <list-turner@m...> wrote:
> On Sat, Jul 30, 2005 at 09:34:44PM -0000, atheniag wrote:sensei
> > > > 22) Cut out of the anime and what a shame: When Yamanobe-
> > > > is brought in by Tsutako, Minako sees him and blurts out,"Does
> > > > he make umbrellas?" That totally made me laugh.Yup, you're right. I'd completely forgotten.
> > >
> > > Yumi gets this line in the anime: "Oh, the umbrella maker!"
> > But she doesn't get to blurt it out loud, which would have been
> > funnier. :-)
> But she does. The scene goes like this: (Using the Lililicious
> translation this time.)
(who still wishes Minako got her line back.)