> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 12:51:15 -0000
> From: "Jen" <puni@...>
> Subject: Re: Common archetypes in yuricon mailing list? (Way long)
> I think the reason why the YuriCon Mailing List isn't so much more
> deluged by daily chit-chat is that very reason. I reckon some
> lurkers (they don't lurk. They play hidey-hole. We're hidey-
> holers.) remain on the outside is because they're kinda intimidated
> by our peers. I know I am.
> Am I the only one who thinks like this?
Nope, I am well and truly intimidated. I feel that way often though, so
it's no real fault of the list.
Also, I seem to be chronically behind on the anime/manga scene. Every
post I type up seems to scream "I'm sure they've already discussed this
before... better than you have."
On the other hand, I still look for things that I might possibly
contribute. It seems just yesterday I was writing up that there seemed
to be an honest to goddess amazon society in Star Ocean: Til the End of
>>The lack of the butch/femme dynamic may also be down to
>>the influence of shounen yuri: while female yaoi fans seem equally
>>enamoured of the seme and uke boys, there doesn't really seem to be a
>>market for ultra-butch women in shounen (which is a crying shame from
>>my perspective ^_^).
I think it's a crying shame too, albeit for different reasons. It's
just comforting to me to know that someone, somewhere, is lusting after
the butch girls. It balances out the universe for ever time I get
referred to as 'that guy'.
And for my own random and stray comment on the butch/femme situation:
An acquaintance of mine once said that yuri accentuated everything that
is feminine about women, while yaoi accentuated everything that is
feminine about men.
While most of this statement is arguable, there is a little validity.
After thinking about it for a while, I brought the idea back to the
author. A female mangaka writing about two boys having hot sex is there
trying to channel all things masculine. She half succeeds, making her
seme a 'cool' and aggressive lead that makes our wavering uke, who looks
'surprisingly' like the mangaka fancies she'd want to look if only she
were a man, come over to the cone of light side. A female mangaka when
dreaming up a way to get her yuri couple to hook up will probably look
to her own feminine wiles and come up with a more 'femme' method of
seduction. A male mangaka writing yuri will probably make them have
really big boobs and add much slapstick humor which makes us all smile. ^_~
Well, that should be enough from me. I'll probably read it through
tomorrow and wonder why the hell I let myself post something at 6am
again. Have not I learned my lesson?
Love and Peace,