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  • Vincent Jorrand
    Hey, Ryan, Were the bug fixes buggy that a new push happened again today on farm 318? I now see v0.5.0 build 368.6 built 01/29/2007. Vincent ... From: Ryan
    Message 1 of 11 , Jan 30, 2007
      Hey, Ryan,

      Were the bug fixes buggy that a new push happened again today on farm 318?
      I now see v0.5.0 build 368.6 built 01/29/2007.

      Vincent

      ----- Original Message ----
      From: Ryan Kennedy <rckenned@...>
      To: Y-Mail@yahoogroups.com
      Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 1:10:37 PM
      Subject: Re: [Y-Mail] new build v0.5.0 b368.5













      > Has anything Changed with the New Build?



      It's just some minor JavaScript bug fixes.



      Ryan Kennedy

      Yahoo! Mail












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    • Sasafrass
      Another one already? I m on 308, so I should see the new build soon..... http://darkangelfans.proboards43.com
      Message 2 of 11 , Jan 30, 2007
        Another one already? I'm on 308, so I should see the new build soon.....

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        Vincent Jorrand wrote:
        > Hey, Ryan,
        >
        > Were the bug fixes buggy that a new push happened again today on farm 318?
        > I now see v0.5.0 build 368.6 built 01/29/2007.
        >
        > Vincent
        >
        > ----- Original Message ----
        > From: Ryan Kennedy <rckenned@...>
        > To: Y-Mail@yahoogroups.com
        > Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 1:10:37 PM
        > Subject: Re: [Y-Mail] new build v0.5.0 b368.5
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        >
        > > Has anything Changed with the New Build?
        >
        >
        >
        > It's just some minor JavaScript bug fixes.
        >
        >
        >
        > Ryan Kennedy
        >
        > Yahoo! Mail
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      • too_much green_tea
        f318 gets the test builds, then f308 gets the stable result :D ____________________________________________________________________________________ Come and
        Message 3 of 11 , Jan 30, 2007
          f318 gets the "test" builds, then f308 gets the stable result :D

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          ----- Original Message ----
          From: Sasafrass <sasafrass452@...>
          To: Y-Mail@yahoogroups.com
          Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 6:14:40 PM
          Subject: Re: [Y-Mail] another new build v0.5.0 b368.6

          Another one already? I'm on 308, so I should see the new build soon.....

          http://darkangelfans.proboards43.com
          http://www.geocities.com/sasafrass452/darkangel.html
          http://groups.yahoo.com/group/sassyscorner
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          Vincent Jorrand wrote:
          > Hey, Ryan,
          >
          > Were the bug fixes buggy that a new push happened again today on farm 318?
          > I now see v0.5.0 build 368.6 built 01/29/2007.
          >
          > Vincent
          >
          > ----- Original Message ----
          > From: Ryan Kennedy <rckenned@...>
          > To: Y-Mail@yahoogroups.com
          > Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 1:10:37 PM
          > Subject: Re: [Y-Mail] new build v0.5.0 b368.5
          >
          >
          >
          >
          >
          >
          >
          >
          >
          >
          >
          >
          >
          > > Has anything Changed with the New Build?
          >
          >
          >
          > It's just some minor JavaScript bug fixes.
          >
          >
          >
          > Ryan Kennedy
          >
          > Yahoo! Mail
          >
          >
          >
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        • Chris Price
          LOL - now that s funny :) Chris. ... From: too_much green_tea To: Y-Mail@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 6:56:23 PM
          Message 4 of 11 , Jan 30, 2007
            LOL - now that's funny :)

            Chris.

            ----- Original Message ----
            From: too_much green_tea <toomuchgreentea@...>
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            Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 6:56:23 PM
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            f318 gets the "test" builds, then f308 gets the stable result :D



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            ----- Original Message ----

            From: Sasafrass <sasafrass452@ yahoo.com>

            To: Y-Mail@yahoogroups. com

            Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 6:14:40 PM

            Subject: Re: [Y-Mail] another new build v0.5.0 b368.6



            Another one already? I'm on 308, so I should see the new build soon.....



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            Vincent Jorrand wrote:

            > Hey, Ryan,

            >

            > Were the bug fixes buggy that a new push happened again today on farm 318?

            > I now see v0.5.0 build 368.6 built 01/29/2007.

            >

            > Vincent

            >

            > ----- Original Message ----

            > From: Ryan Kennedy <rckenned@yahoo. com>

            > To: Y-Mail@yahoogroups. com

            > Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 1:10:37 PM

            > Subject: Re: [Y-Mail] new build v0.5.0 b368.5

            >

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            > > Has anything Changed with the New Build?

            >

            >

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            > It's just some minor JavaScript bug fixes.

            >

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            >

            > Ryan Kennedy

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            > Yahoo! Mail

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          • Sasafrass
            I know, that s why I said we ll see the new build soon.... http://darkangelfans.proboards43.com http://www.geocities.com/sasafrass452/darkangel.html
            Message 5 of 11 , Jan 31, 2007
              I know, that's why I said we'll see the new build soon....

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              > f318 gets the "test" builds, then f308 gets the stable result :D
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              > Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 6:14:40 PM
              > Subject: Re: [Y-Mail] another new build v0.5.0 b368.6
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              > Another one already? I'm on 308, so I should see the new build soon.....
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              >> I now see v0.5.0 build 368.6 built 01/29/2007.
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            • Ryan Kennedy
              ... No, we actually snuck in some additional fixes to bake before pushing them out to the rest of the farms. In particular, some of you may have noticed that
              Message 6 of 11 , Jan 31, 2007
                > Were the bug fixes buggy that a new push happened
                > again today on farm 318? I now see v0.5.0 build
                > 368.6 built 01/29/2007.

                No, we actually snuck in some additional fixes to bake before pushing them out to the rest of the farms. In particular, some of you may have noticed that sending mail was slower in more recent builds. We've addressed that issue in 368.6. The other fixes were very minor.

                Ryan Kennedy
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              • Vincent Jorrand
                That conversation made me think of one (small) feature I would really like: Access to the release notes from the version pop-up. I understand that you would
                Message 7 of 11 , Jan 31, 2007
                  That conversation made me think of one (small) feature I would really like:
                  Access to the release notes from the version pop-up.
                  I understand that you would probably have to somewhat sanitize your internal release notes to remove from them any information that you do not want to be public yet, but it would still be nice to be able to see what has changed.

                  Vincent


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                  > Were the bug fixes buggy that a new push happened

                  > again today on farm 318? I now see v0.5.0 build

                  > 368.6 built 01/29/2007.



                  No, we actually snuck in some additional fixes to bake before pushing them out to the rest of the farms. In particular, some of you may have noticed that sending mail was slower in more recent builds. We've addressed that issue in 368.6. The other fixes were very minor.



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                  ... I wouldn t say they re test builds. They re considerably more baked than that. We actually have another farm just for development where we put the test
                  Message 8 of 11 , Jan 31, 2007
                    > f318 gets the "test" builds, then f308 gets the stable result :D

                    I wouldn't say they're "test" builds. They're considerably more baked than that. We actually have another farm just for development where we put the test builds. All of us working on the beta have our accounts on that farm, so we "dogfood" the test builds before they go anywhere near a production farm. That's also where QA does their testing.

                    By the time a build hits 308/318, it's been through the ringer a bit. When we push to farm 308/318, that's when we really get some heavy traffic on the builds. Users have a much different usage pattern than most of us on the mail team, so we start shaking some of the smaller bugs out of the system at that point. Bugs that don't show up because they either depend on the account or on the mail within that account. We try to minimize those kinds of bugs by testing as many account types and messages as possible, but innevitably we don't catch everything.

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                  • too_much green_tea
                    Finally, the answer to who s on first, what s on second ... ;) ____________________________________________________________________________________ Come and
                    Message 9 of 11 , Jan 31, 2007
                      Finally, the answer to "who's on first, what's on second ..." ;)

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                      Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 1:03:55 PM
                      Subject: Re: [Y-Mail] another new build v0.5.0 b368.6

                      > f318 gets the "test" builds, then f308 gets the stable result :D

                      I wouldn't say they're "test" builds. They're considerably more baked than that. We actually have another farm just for development where we put the test builds. All of us working on the beta have our accounts on that farm, so we "dogfood" the test builds before they go anywhere near a production farm. That's also where QA does their testing.

                      By the time a build hits 308/318, it's been through the ringer a bit. When we push to farm 308/318, that's when we really get some heavy traffic on the builds. Users have a much different usage pattern than most of us on the mail team, so we start shaking some of the smaller bugs out of the system at that point. Bugs that don't show up because they either depend on the account or on the mail within that account. We try to minimize those kinds of bugs by testing as many account types and messages as possible, but innevitably we don't catch everything.

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                    • James
                      Wuhu, as of today I m finally on V0.5.0, although it appears I m still a couple minor builds behind ;) I like the weather and the addition of holidays to the
                      Message 10 of 11 , Jan 31, 2007
                        Wuhu, as of today I'm finally on V0.5.0, although it appears I'm still
                        a couple minor builds behind ;)

                        I like the weather and the addition of holidays to the calendar strip :)

                        Hopefully IM integration will be released soon (because if it's
                        released in one month I'll be able to use it in 3 months).

                        Also, I just realized if you right-click > [view page source] and look
                        at the very last line it says the date and time in PST military hours
                        that the version/build was released to your server. If that's
                        correct, my server just got updated 5 minutes ago, kinda cool :)

                        at&t, f812, Version 0.5.0 build:368.3 - built on 12/19/2006 09:11 PM


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                        > Subject: Re: [Y-Mail] another new build v0.5.0 b368.6
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                        > > f318 gets the "test" builds, then f308 gets the stable result :D
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                        > I wouldn't say they're "test" builds. They're considerably more
                        baked than that. We actually have another farm just for development
                        where we put the test builds. All of us working on the beta have our
                        accounts on that farm, so we "dogfood" the test builds before they go
                        anywhere near a production farm. That's also where QA does their testing.
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                        > By the time a build hits 308/318, it's been through the ringer a
                        bit. When we push to farm 308/318, that's when we really get some
                        heavy traffic on the builds. Users have a much different usage pattern
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                      • Ryan Kennedy
                        ... You need to check your calendar, it s 2007. ;) The date you see at the bottom is the date the build was created. In your case, your build is actually a
                        Message 11 of 11 , Jan 31, 2007
                          > If that's correct, my server just got updated 5 minutes ago, kinda cool :)
                          >
                          > at&t, f812, Version 0.5.0 build:368.3 - built on 12/19/2006 09:11 PM

                          You need to check your calendar, it's 2007. ;)

                          The date you see at the bottom is the date the build was created. In your case, your build is actually a little over a month old at this point.

                          Ryan Kennedy
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