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7061Re: [XSL-FO] Why XSL-FO? Any WYSIWYG tools?

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  • Peter Wu
    Dec 23, 2005

      I've begun to ask myself the same question.

      Why not write my data out to ODF, let the users change
      it and reformat it any way they like using an open
      source tool like OpenOffice.org and then export it to
      PDF (or any other format) using the export filters
      built right into the tool?

      Now that I think about it, why even use PDF when we
      can just keep it in its orginal editable format?


      --- hedley.finger@... wrote:

      > I have been lurking on this list for several months
      > now after reading the
      > W3C specs. So I have a couple of questions for you
      > experts.
      > I realise this question is like asking the pope if
      > we really need the
      > Catholic church, but here goes.
      > It seems to me that XSL-FO is an XML equivalent of
      > Word's RTF or
      > FrameMaker's MIF. I realise that
      > XSL-FO is only a temporary way-station on the way to
      > outputting to print
      > via PDF, so is inherently disposable
      > once you have your required output.
      > But wasn't the great promise of XML that it
      > separated content from
      > formatting? And weren't CSS and XSL designed
      > to supply that formatting externally to the XML
      > content file? Once you
      > have transformed your content into an XSL-FO file,
      > you have effectively eliminated all semantic
      > tagging, so you can't modify
      > the file and replicate it back to the XML original.
      > So why not develop CSS or XSL for print formatting?
      > Why introduce a
      > cumbersome and verbose alternative instead
      > that replicates all the functionality of these
      > formatting languages --
      > while admittedly adding extra pagination
      > capabilities?
      > CSS3 promises to add the required pagination
      > capability, and at least one
      > renderer, Prince, uses CSS2 with extensions
      > for this purpose. So can someone tell me what the
      > justification for
      > XSL-FO is?
      > Having questioned the whole rationale for XSL-FO, I
      > thought I would go for
      > broke by asking the list's advice about
      > suitable WYSIWYG designers or editors for developing
      > XSL-FO stylesheets
      > interactively. It appears that XSL-FO
      > is here to stay, so it is probably prudent to add
      > the relevant skills to
      > my existing publishing experience. I figured that
      > developing stylesheets via a GUI and then examining
      > the code would get me
      > up to speed faster.
      > Can any users of WYSiWYG editors recommend those I
      > should investigate?
      > Regards,
      > Hedley
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