That Darn Doubt! LOL
- Repost from Radhasoamistudies Yahoo Group
Ah, the power of words.... meditator loses 2 hours of meditation!
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A poster writes:
"Most days I can sit in meditation for 2-3 hours in a totally
blissful state. On some of those days I can leave this material
plane and experience the freedom of release from this material
During the last several days of my discussions here I have not been
able to even sit completely still for more than 30 minutes. So I
must decide whether or not to continue on with my forward progress,
or stay here with you in this little Internet Hell world."
DAVID LANE REPLIES:
This is a most remarkable confession and one worthy of deep
Why? Because of this one key line and I quote:
"I have not been able to even sit completely still for more than 30
If one genuinely had access to even the FIRST region and had
immersed one's self there (given the theology of Sant Mat), then one
cannot imagine how 26 letters and their various manipulations
(otherwise called "posts") would have such a DRAMATIC effect on the
voyager that his bliss rides would most or less come to a halt.
However, maybe there is another explanation for why a reported deep
meditator has difficulty sitting AFTER coming DOWN here in the Hell
land of r.s. studies....
Just maybe, doubt creeps in.... just maybe questions arise..... or
any combination of whatever the mind would like to suggest.....
And then one finds one's self meditating less the past few days and
actually engaging in the wrangle of the rational mind.
Personally, this is why I am not impressed with Sant Mat or
Radhasoami and its various claims.
I am also singularly unimpressed by claims by so many that we love
our given gurus or our prophets on some divine level.
Because you can take almost any satsangi and given the right line of
questions and suggestive information make them SEVERE doubts about
their guru that they thought was perfect about 20 minutes ago....
but now they are not sure if he is Thakar in disguise.
How is it that the rational mind can so easily UPTURN the most
I think the answer is simple: those same individuals have not really
engaged the rational mind nor really probed the hard questions.
Ironically, I can quote Charan here because I think he had a very
good answer when asked about doubt..... he encouraged it saying that
you will be building a foundation on rock, not sand.
I wish Gurinder would heed this advice and RADICALLY build such a
solid foundation with his Sant Mat 2.0 or whatever new form it is
going to take.
I haven't seen that at all, of course.
I think that is the problem with R.S. theology and with "science of
the soul study centers."
It isn't solidly built.
In fact, it is so weakly built that a long-time meditator can come
here and have his meditation "disturbed".
Something is truly amiss if this newsgroup can fuck up your bliss.
Genuine bliss doesn't get fucked up by 26 letters and their
Imagine a genuine exploration in mysticism...........