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  • Khawaja Ashraf
    Khalid Bin Umar sahib, You have asked the right kind of question to Mr. Shahid Mahmud. It was a time when Mr. Shahid Mahmud preached that Islam is a MUKAMMAL
    Message 1 of 23 , May 2 10:26 AM
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      Khalid Bin Umar sahib,
       
      You have asked the right kind of question to Mr. Shahid Mahmud. It was a time when Mr. Shahid Mahmud preached that Islam is a MUKAMMAL ZABTA-E-HAYYAT. Let us see how he responds your question.
       
      K. Ashraf
      -----Original Message-----
      From: Khalid Bin Umar [mailto:khalidkoraivi@...]
      Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2004 1:37 AM
      To: Shahid Mahmud
      Cc: writers_forum@yahoogroups.com
      Subject: Re: [Writers_Forum] Re: Lustrous Companions : UMMA & SEX & Muslim Wakeup.com

      Dear Readers,
       
      I am asking Mr.Shahid Mahmud to tell us point wise what should muslims do now ?
       
      You see he has wasted a lot of time in writing so many lines......below but at the last everybody is empty handed and fail to understand the message.
       
      I am asking Mr.Mahmud to lay down some rules and priniciples in order to rectify the errors of Islam and Muslims on this subject ....Point wise.............. and dont indulge in futile discussions...
       
      Just let me know what we should do now....what reforms are required.....what changes in thoughts and actions you expect of us ??? That's all.
       
      Islam is not a jumble house for everybody to play with him ........Just tell what Islam and what kind of muslims you need .But the answer should be pointwise and practical to be put into practice from today itself (if it is so).
       
      Thanks & Regards
       
      Khalid Bin Umar


      Shahid Mahmud <smahmud@...> wrote:
      Dear Readers,
       
      This is so typical of Islamists - including the so called 'liberal' type. A little prick and the Muslim apologist bursts in anger. How dare you!
       
      Grudgingly he guards he sensual side of the theology but when you point out the logical conclusion from it, that is effrontery - an act of a horrid beast.
       
      Reminds me of a very famous book in Urdu which is not only advertised on the back of other books and magazine, once countless Pakistani brick and concrete facades were littered with advertisement for the book. The book is titled: "Maut Ka Manzar Marnay Key Ba'ad Kia Ho Ga", essentially "What it would be death like after dying." A female cousin of mine read it and then mentioned it to me. I borrowed it from her to read and then returned it without delving much into the contents with the exception that it contains 'shameless' stuff.
       
      Indeed there is no enormity big enough to describe what is contained in the Islamic books concerning human sexuality, that too primarily male dominated. So for some to take offense from this post from Mr. Munir is beyond reason. Indeed it is hypocritical.
       
      I know the reason.
       
      Muslim apologists are very protective of their religion. Outwardly they defend the sanitized version of Islam while jealously protecting the questionable and condemnable side. Munir Sahib touched a nerve, an act which a Muslim does not expect from a fellow Muslim. No wonder Munir Sahib obliged and before he is branded a heretic by the pious, he relented by listing his daily routine before he goes to bed.
       
      The article in question began with a verse from the Quran. The Muslim apologists should ask themselves - where does this stuff come from. Maryam in the story picked it up from where? Isn't this in the Quran that men of the paradise would get virgins? So why are Muslims ashamed of bearing the consequence of the Quranic 'glad tidings'? If the 'Holy Book' contains clear references further butteressed by other elements of the Muslim theology, why pick on this article?
       
      Here is my routine before I go to sleep. I floss and clean my teeth. Read few pages of a book which is enough to bring on sweet dreams after half an hour or sooner. My God does not need prayer in Arabic so we talk in our native language of choice of that night - Urdu, English or Punjabi. I basically thank Him for all the good things in life. Of course, had I been a destitute, I would have been complaining. I am no hypocrite like most Muslims are.
       
      I commend Munir Sahib for posting the article but I do not support his retreat.
       
      Regards,
       
      Shahid Mahmud
       
       
       


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