Re: [New Mobility/WorldTransport Forum] RE: [NewMobilityCafe] road user charges
- Hi Dave and all,
Just a short comment: In Sweden, Congestion Charge have been deemed a
tax. There is a vicious political fight over it just now, but the
Riksdag (Swedish Parliment) majority have decided to test it in
Stockholm. The most environmentally un-friendly party in the Riksdag,
Moderaterna, have promised to fight it in all possible ways. In a
recent questionnaire from the Green Motorists in Sweden, Moderaterna
was against almost all important measures trying to reduce the
environmental/health impact of motorised transport (read: private cars).
And the gas price is slowly crawling over Euro 1,10/liter. All to cheap!
Have a nice summer, all who have one!
måndagen den 12 juli 2004 kl 08.10 skrev Wetzel Dave:
> We do not use Congestion Charge net income specifically to reduceRegards,
> The Mayor has decided that all net income to be used to encourage and
> cyclists, pedestrians and improved pax safety on buses (CCTV etc).
> However, remember Congestion Charge is not a tax - it is pricing for
> vehicular use of a scarce resource - road space in central London.
> It has succeeded all expectations in this objective. Except when
> Formula One
> racing cars hit Regent Street last week, London's central London
> streets are
> much quieter. (Both in terms of traffic and noise).
> TfL has a budget of almost £5bn pa.
> The £90m from Congestion Charge is welcome but not crucial. (The
> between buying something in a shop for £50 or £50.90p). The difference
> noticable but not crucial.
> £90m would not make much dent in fares.
> However, over the past 4 years the Mayor has kept tube fares in line
> inflation and the cost of bus passes was cut from £12.50 to £9.50 per
> with children under 11 now travelling free (previously children under 5
> years old). The 70p outer London bus fare was increased to £1 to enable
> faster boarding (no change from the driver) and encourage off-bus
> sales of
> cheaper tickets from newsagents and tube stations.
> We await todays spending announcement from the Government which will
> determine our Government Grant for the next four years.
> If you really want to release money for cheaper fares, then a Land
> Value Tax
> would be much more efficient. It is cheap to collect unlike Congestion
> Charge (you don't need 700 cameras, a call centre, hundreds of retail
> outlets etc) and impossible to avoid unlike the 2 million who are
> failing to
> pay congestion charge each year and have to be chased up with
> CONCLUSION: Congestion Charge is a Congestion Buster - not an
> efficient tax
> to pay for lower fares!
> Dave Wetzel
> Transport for London
> Windsor House, 42-50 Victoria Street.
> London. SW1H 0TL. UK.
> Tel 020 7941 4200
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> Nearest Underground - St James's Park tube station.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Simon Norton [mailto:S.Norton@...]
> Sent: 11 July 2004 23:38
> To: email@example.com
> Subject: [NewMobilityCafe] road user charges
> Why were most of the recommended links from the Observer article to
> involved in one way or another with the motor industry and none to
> environmental groups ?
> As far as I am concerned there is one over-riding priority for use of
> generated by road user charging -- the reduction of public transport
> doubt Dave Wetzel can confirm to what extent this has happened in
> London. As
> example of the level of "congestion charge" that can currently be
> rail users, the difference between the full fare and saver returns from
> to Manchester is, I believe, about 150 pounds, or 25p per kilometre.
> destinations, especially in the more rural areas, a day trip is only
> by public transport using trains subject to these peak restrictions --
> of them are only designated as such because the relevant train operator
> wants to
> extract as much money from passengers as possible and doesn't care if
> go by
> car instead and congest the motorways. And then the Government plays
> hands by proposing to widen the motorways...
> Of course, money from road user charging also needs to be used to fill
> missing links in the system so that it does offer an alternative for
> journeys. I'd say that this has happened in London.
> Simon Norton
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