By Michelangelo Signorile
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FRED PHELPS' APOLOGISTS
A senior official with one of the Moonie organizations is defending
Fred "God Hates Fags" Phelps. Rev. Sun Myung Moon, who owns the
right-wing Washington Times, has been patted on the back by the Bush
family time and again
and of course by the Republican Party in Washington, which considers
the Washington Times the conservative paper of record of the Beltway,
though Moon is a maniacal ideologue with a frightening, wacked-out
agenda and though his paper is riddled with racists and the like.
like Frank LaGrotteria and Robert Stacy McCain are vile cowards who are
closeted about their hate, going online to vent it while they ply their
agenda more covertly at Moon's groups and publications. And those who
give them jobs, like Moon, are dangerous powermongers. But the truly
nasty, immoral bastards are those who back Moon in the Republican
Party, including George W. Bush, knowing what exactly what he is
UPDATE: For those who were concerned that
perhaps the post on Good As You was someone posing as LaGrotteria, the
guy now confirmed it was him in an email he sent back to Good As You after an inquiry:
its me...I watched all those shows and he keeps repeating on me...I
mean I am not much of bible person..in fact over emphasis on Bible
quotes can actually deter the listener from getting the point...but
somehow his sincerity caught my attention...you know when person is
genuine or full of it so to speak...he seems like the real deal so I
felt it was worth listening and digging a bit more deeper...for example
the civil rights stuff...of course any real Christian would not sit by
and let that happen. likewise any real Christian could not stand by and
let sexual sin go unchallenged..
May 01, 2007
We've been 'Moon'ed!
So in a recent post wherein we presented some video clips of the Westboro Baptist Church
, we recieved a comment that reads (in part):
Phelps and the Westport [sic] group,
at the heart of all their biblical rhetoric and hate speech, are really
people who simply and honestly want to stay pure. They do not want to
fall anymore and do not want their children to fall. They, like so many
others these days, find it hard to simply promote what they believe,
and find it much easier to be against something or use something else
to make their case...yes they are honest, but not in the way presented
by many of the writers on this blog...they are honest in that they want
to live in a world of purity, fidelity and true respect for
others...this is what makes them so strange...because in our world, the
world of selfish extremism, we cannot find such people...I do not say
more power to them because I think they do speak hate, but we should
study them and other groups and go further into the reasons why such
groups exist in the first place.
So at the time, we did no further research, just assuming the gentleman
who wrote this was sadly misinformed. However, the matter was brought
back to light today, when the same person posted an addendum to his
Well, I am so surprised by life...I watched fred the movie at the following site ...[link redacted]...
and have to revise my comments about Pastor Phelps being a hate
monger. Its better to understand what he is saying and why than to
label him a hate monger and thus miss the message and purpose for what
he is saying. Please listen to his story and try to understand where he
is coming from.
Okay, so he's justifying/defending the actions of a man who thanks God for the deaths of fallen soldiers...
...and who thinks that this is a good display of family values:
So who is this person who made these Phelps-defending comments? Well,
the handle he used was "Frank" and email address is
"flag@...." So doing a quick Google search, it takes
you to the home page for the Universal Peace Federation (UPF) [formerly
the Interreligious and International Federation for World Peace
(IIFWP)], where you will find:
But what's this organization that Mr. LaGrotteria is representing, you ask? Well, does the name of the organization's founder, Rev. Sun Myung Moon, ring a bell with anyone? Yes/ no? Well, if not, let's look at some of Rev. Moon's teachings:
May 4, 1997:
"Homosexuals and fornicators are like dirty dung eating dogs"
"Is the world around us a
peaceful world centered upon God, or is it all confused? (Confused.)
That is what is called free sex. What is the meaning of lesbians and
homosexuals? That is the place where all different kinds of dung
collect. We have to end that behavior. When this kind of dirty
relationship is taking place between human beings, God cannot be happy.
That is what the secular world is like. As the lord of all creation,
are we seeking that kind of world? (No.)"
"As human beings, we should
mobilize our forty billion cells and clean up these dirty places. Would
you women want this dirty dung filled water to be poured over you?
(No.) What about men, do you want to be soaked in that kind of dirty
water? (No.) Only Satan and dirty dung eating dogs go after that. God
created human beings and they should stay away from it. Isn't it true?
[YES!] There are certain kinds of dogs that go after dung and eat it.
Therefore the name of dog (or sometimes "son of a bitch") is used to
speak badly of human beings. Those people who love dung eating dogs
must have some problem. Especially American people, and American
leaders. If they truly love such dogs, they also become like dung
eating dogs and produce that quality of life. If such dogs are around
can't you smell them? Do you want to be close to them or far away? (Far
away.) American people, their mind wants to get away, but their bodies
are still being pulled by these dung eating dogs. That's true! Free sex
activity is equivalent to this. Father gave you a figure of speech."
In April of 2001 he said:
people, you have to repent. Jesus was the King of Israel. Through the
principle of indemnity Hitler killed 6 million Jews. That is why. God
could not prevent Satan from doing that because Israel killed the True
Parents. Even now, you have to determine that you will repent and
follow and become one with Christianity through Rev. Moon."
"Look at the world. Young
people, now liberated from the yoke of communism, are enjoying their
freedom to such an extent that they are in danger of running pell-mell
off the cliff of debauchery. Instead of seeking God's ideal of
creation, they embrace the perspective of selfish individualism and
become slaves to free sex. This gives rise to all manner of social
evils. Homosexual activists have hoisted the flag of the so-called
"gay" movement. They advocate marriage between people of the same sex.
Put simply, this is barbaric and it infuriates Heaven and humanity.
Imagine, for a moment, the world that would result from what they
advocate. Humanity would become extinct within two generations.
Those who turn away from Heaven's will dig their own graves in the
soil of decadence and immorality. The evil of this age has its own
punishing consequences. The incurable disease known as AIDS is a sign
of this from Heaven. Even as we sit here, is not this cursed plague
infecting thousands of innocent people? Is it not casting them onto the
path of death?"
And now Mr. LaGrotteria, a chief employee at one of Moon's
organization's is vouching for the actions of the Westboro Baptist
Church! It might all be sort of comical, if not for a few facts: MOON IS ALSO THE FOUNDER OF BOTH THE RIGHT-LEANING 'WASHINGTON TIMES
' AND UPI WIRE SERVICE! MOON IS ALSO
IN BED WITH THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION!
There are so many layers of concern here that we simply don't know what else to even say about this. Except of course:
We will keep speaking in favor of gay acceptance. We will keep
defending our Jewish brothers and sisters (as well as all religious
people). We will keep speaking out against the actions of Westboro
Baptist. It just becomes increasingly more alarming to witness how inter-connected the dots of antipathy seem to be.
***Oh, and this all happened at the Dirksen Senate building back in 2004:
**UPDATE: There were some concerned that the person
who left the comments was not Mr. LaGrotteria himself. Well, he has
confirmed to us, saying:
This was in response to our email, reading:
Damian J. AndersonDamian.Anderson@...
PO Box 86118
Montgomery Village, MD 20886-6118
Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a man's character, give him power.