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  • B Burgess
    B Burgess WWP Member (fticeo@yahoo.com) Jerry, You asked about the Bill of Rights . Well I hope this answer doesn t bust your and others bubble to much... The
    Message 1 of 37 , Sep 9, 2013
    B Burgess WWP Member (fticeo@...) Jerry,

    You asked about the 'Bill of Rights'. Well I hope this answer doesn't bust your and others bubble to much...

    The material centers around but not limited to the John Barron Case. John Barron when he tried using the Bill of Rights to protect himself from the taking of his dock area in Maryland in 1822. The attachments will help you learn that the corporation (United States & States) lied to you and you can't use the Bill of Rights. As to the Bill of Rights, it plain out sucks. It's a fraud from the start. Do you know about the John Barron case? You'd better. After reading the attachments you will learn why the anti-federalists were dead set against the Bill of Rights.

    The attachments cut to the core on the so called Bill of Rights. Many will be shocked to discover that first it doesn't apply to them, their friends, parents and never ever has. Second, the wool has been pulled over American's eyes from the very beginning (1776). Don't take my word on this, read the attachments...

    Like most of the information that I have sent you this material is not new, It's from the stellar professional level research conducted years ago by the Informer and others. Unfortunately, many have ignored this work to their detriment. Don't make the same mistakes they have. This material will make all the Tea Party folks gag and puke as they find out how they have been fed a complete load of CRAP regarding the Bill of Rights and Constitution. I am saying that because I have a clear understanding of history and the TRUTH which is documented for all to read in the attachments.

    Have fun with this You'll...


     

    B. Burgess


    Jerry Stanton WWP Email Member and Pro Se activist (farm_stone@...) B Burgess If it is not about rights, and only privileges, why is called the
    Bill of Rights? Jerry James Stanton

    1. US Constitution--Bill of Rights--The First Ten Amendmentswww.ratical.org/co-globalize/BillOfRights.html   Cached
    The following is a transcription of the first 10 amendments to the United States Constitution. Called the "Bill of Rights", these amendments were ratified on December ...

    B Burgess WWP Member (fticeo@...) Gary,

    Perhaps after you read and comprehend the attachments that I forwarded you might understand my statement. However, I did state that some will think my statement is lunacy. Those that do haven't been exposed to the truth. They haven't read much less heard of any of the U.S. Supreme Court cases that say as much or any of the documented facts that were provided in the attachments. Regarding beliefs, mine are well grounded in the truth as presented. Here is but a small example which can be found in the attachment to this reply:

    Rights are from God under natural law. Don't all people say that? They are Naturallaw rights.

    If it is a natural law right to own a sword, didn't the Lord say turn your Plows into Swords? How about a gun, a cannon even, or travel in your car or any conveyance of means, under natural law RIGHTS. All the Lord said was GO. And People went without license as it was a natural law command from the Law giver, the Only true natural law giver. Then how come the body of the Contract, read that as Constitution, it only says PRIVILEGES?

    The John Barron case states that Bill of Rights ordeclaration was only for the United States corporation. It was NOT for the State corporation(s) or the
    persons of those corporation(s).

    Oh, you say prove it, you don't believe it. The Bill of Rights had it's own preamble. Legally it was not part of the constitution's bylaws at all. It could not legally be so, because it would have amended the bylaws of that corporation wherein it is stated only Privileges and Immunities are enjoyed. It would have to say RIGHTS, Privileges and Immunities.

    Judge Bork, at his confirmation to become a U.S. Supreme Court Judge hearing, asked of the committee, words to this effect. Sirs, please tell me where Rights are in the Constitution, becauseI can't find a one?  You know they never answered his question?  You know why don't you?

    I suggest that you as well as others read the material before you shoot from the hip. Perhaps the following additional excerpt from the current attachment will help:

    #1 - "When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker a raving lunatic."   - Dresden James

    The reason why the corporation has run so smoothly so far for 226 plus years is the average American's (your) ignorance.

    #2 - "Reason and Ignorance, the opposites of each other, influence the great bulk of mankind. If either of these can be rendered sufficiently extensive in a country, the machinery of Government goes easily on. Reason obeys itself, and Ignorance submits to whatever is dictated to it."  'The Rights of Man'  - Thomas Paine

    Now, where does this ignorance come from that you and the majority of Americans are so fond of, that you submit fully without
    question to pretend rulers? Lies and more Lies and therefore, #3 comes into play:

    #3 - TCD, Theory of Cognitive Dissonance by Leon Festinger Stanford University Press (1957) Holds that the mind involuntarily rejects information not in line with previous thoughts/or actions.  Festinger observed; A person can deal with the pressure generated by changing the dissonance the old behavior to harmonize with information.  But if the person is committed to the old behaviorand way of thinking, he simply rejects the new information.  A simple “I don't believe it”  thought or word is the easy cop out. For if you are unaware, you are unaware of being unaware.

    Is ignorant a bad word? No.  It just means the mentality is unchangeable when one believes lies as truth. And the Truth is then a Lie when presented to them.  And we go right back to #1 don't we?  Thus it becomes a very vicious cycle of a merry go round you just can't seem to get off.

    Take a few minutes and read the attached so that you may become aware of what you have been unaware of.
  • B Burgess
    Gary, et al: Attached are two notes that you ll should read several times. They will help you understand how we all have been bamboozled over the past 224 plus
    Message 37 of 37 , Sep 11, 2013
    Gary, et al:

    Attached are two notes that you'll should read several times. They will help you understand how we all have been bamboozled over the past 224 plus years... These notes show why all efforts by those that cling to the Constitution and it's so called provisions of Rights are a complete waste of time...

    These notes represent the quality of research that should be conducted on any subject. Never rely on MYTHS or BELIEFS without comprehensive facts that is documented for all to see... This is why you see so many so called GURUs loosing in the courts. Mainly because they have no idea who they are in the eyes of the LAW of Nations...

    Wow, what a web they have weaved...

    Just trying to help folks understand what they have no idea that they don't understand...

    B. Burgess


    From: gary beauregard <beau@...>
    To: B Burgess <fticeo@...>; "World-Wide_Politics@yahoogroups.com" <World-Wide_Politics@yahoogroups.com>; "advancedstudiesca@..." <advancedstudiesca@...>
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    Sent: Monday, September 9, 2013 8:23 PM
    Subject: Re: ]World-Wide_Politics[ Obama Suggests Only Lawyers Understand the Constitution

    Please note, the only rights that you have, as Americans, are those that you are prepared to enforce and defend. You and not the Constitution are the primary guarantor of your rights. You can claim the Bill of Rights to be a fraud, because of some obscure Court decision and if you let it stand, then perhaps it will have gained some standing among those who count themselves citizens but are, in reality, sheep merely waiting for the butcher's knife. Freedom is never granted, it is seized and defended or it does not exist at all.

    From: B Burgess <fticeo@...>
    To: "World-Wide_Politics@yahoogroups.com" <World-Wide_Politics@yahoogroups.com>; gary beauregard <beau@...>; "advancedstudiesca@..." <advancedstudiesca@...>
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    Sent: Monday, September 9, 2013 8:09 PM
    Subject: Re: ]World-Wide_Politics[ Obama Suggests Only Lawyers Understand the Constitution
    Jerry, You asked about the 'Bill of Rights'. Well I hope this answer doesn't bust your and others bubble to much... The material centers around but not limited to the John Barron Case. John Barron when he tried using the Bill of Rights to protect himself from the taking of his dock area in Maryland in 1822. The attachments will help you learn that the corporation (United States & States) lied to you and you can't use the Bill of Rights. As to the Bill of Rights, it plain out sucks. It's a fraud from the start. Do you know about the John Barron case? You'd better. After reading the attachments you will learn why the anti-federalists were dead set against the Bill of Rights. The attachments cut to the core on the so called Bill of Rights. Many will be shocked to discover that first it doesn't apply to them, their friends, parents and never ever has. Second, the wool has been pulled over American's eyes from the very beginning (1776). Don't take my word on this, read the attachments... Like most of the information that I have sent you this material is not new, It's from the stellar professional level research conducted years ago by the Informer and others. Unfortunately, many have ignored this work to their detriment. Don't make the same mistakes they have. This material will make all the Tea Party folks gag and puke as they find out how they have been fed a complete load of CRAP regarding the Bill of Rights and Constitution. I am saying that because I have a clear understanding of history and the TRUTH which is documented for all to read in the attachments. Have fun with this You'll...

     
    B. Burgess

    From: Jerry Stanton <farm_stone@...>
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    Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2013 11:26 PM
    Subject: ]World-Wide_Politics[ Obama Suggests Only Lawyers Understand the Constitution
     
    (Moderator's Note: Rescued from the spam folder. dH) Jerry Stanton WWP Email Member and Pro Se activist (farm_stone@...) B Burgess If it is not about rights, and only privileges, why is called the Bill of Rights? Jerry James Stanton 1. US Constitution--Bill of Rights--The First Ten Amendmentswww.ratical.org/co-globalize/BillOfRights.html   Cached The following is a transcription of the first 10 amendments to the United States Constitution. Called the "Bill of Rights", these amendments were ratified on December ... B Burgess WWP Member (fticeo@...) Gary, Perhaps after you read and comprehend the attachments that I forwarded you might understand my statement. However, I did state that some will think my statement is lunacy. Those that do haven't been exposed to the truth. They haven't read much less heard of any of the U.S. Supreme Court cases that say as much or any of the documented facts that were provided in the attachments. Regarding beliefs, mine are well grounded in the truth as presented. Here is but a small example which can be found in the attachment to this reply: Rights are from God under natural law. Don't all people say that? They are Naturallaw rights. If it is a natural law right to own a sword, didn't the Lord say turn your Plows into Swords? How about a gun, a cannon even, or travel in your car or any conveyance of means, under natural law RIGHTS. All the Lord said was GO. And People went without license as it was a natural law command from the Law giver, the Only true natural law giver. Then how come the body of the Contract, read that as Constitution, it only says PRIVILEGES? The John Barron case states that Bill of Rights ordeclaration was only for the United States corporation. It was NOT for the State corporation(s) or the persons of those corporation(s). Oh, you say prove it, you don't believe it. The Bill of Rights had it's own preamble. Legally it was not part of the constitution's bylaws at all. It could not legally be so, because it would have amended the bylaws of that corporation wherein it is stated only Privileges and Immunities are enjoyed. It would have to say RIGHTS, Privileges and Immunities. Judge Bork, at his confirmation to become a U.S. Supreme Court Judge hearing, asked of the committee, words to this effect. Sirs, please tell me where Rights are in the Constitution, becauseI can't find a one?  You know they never answered his question?  You know why don't you? I suggest that you as well as others read the material before you shoot from the hip. Perhaps the following additional excerpt from the current attachment will help: #1 - "When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker a raving lunatic."   - Dresden James The reason why the corporation has run so smoothly so far for 226 plus years is the average American's (your) ignorance. #2 - "Reason and Ignorance, the opposites of each other, influence the great bulk of mankind. If either of these can be rendered sufficiently extensive in a country, the machinery of Government goes easily on. Reason obeys itself, and Ignorance submits to whatever is dictated to it."  'The Rights of Man'  - Thomas Paine Now, where does this ignorance come from that you and the majority of Americans are so fond of, that you submit fully without question to pretend rulers? Lies and more Lies and therefore, #3 comes into play: #3 - TCD, Theory of Cognitive Dissonance by Leon Festinger Stanford University Press (1957) Holds that the mind involuntarily rejects information not in line with previous thoughts/or actions.  Festinger observed; A person can deal with the pressure generated by changing the dissonance the old behavior to harmonize with information.  But if the person is committed to the old behaviorand way of thinking, he simply rejects the new information.  A simple “I don't believe it”  thought or word is the easy cop out. For if you are unaware, you are unaware of being unaware. Is ignorant a bad word? No.  It just means the mentality is unchangeable when one believes lies as truth. And the Truth is then a Lie when presented to them.  And we go right back to #1 don't we?  Thus it becomes a very vicious cycle of a merry go round you just can't seem to get off. Take a few minutes and read the attached so that you may become aware of what you have been unaware of.   B. Burgess ________________________________ From: gary beauregard <beau@...> To: B Burgess <fticeo@...>; "World-Wide_Politics@yahoogroups.com" <World-Wide_Politics@yahoogroups.com>; "advancedstudiesca@..." <advancedstudiesca@...> Cc: "d3869@..." <d3869@...>; "algae5636@..." <algae5636@...>; "Anneteresa1@..." <Anneteresa1@...>; "rhgusn@..." <rhgusn@...>; "Bullfrogsnavy@..." <Bullfrogsnavy@...>; "vanzorge@..." <vanzorge@...>; "baywife@..." <baywife@...>; "cbhensler@..." <cbhensler@...>; "gmaduck@..." <gmaduck@...>; "conner2or@..." <conner2or@...>; "patrick.henry.wanted@..." <patrick.henry.wanted@...>; "Dag_Gano@..." <Dag_Gano@...>; "whatnowgop@..." <whatnowgop@...>; "djibril888@..." <djibril888@...>; "colony14@..." <colony14@...>; "d3869@..." <d3869@...>; "d3869@..." <d3869@...>; "drecpa@..." <drecpa@...>; "ducky4817@..." <ducky4817@...>; "earljreese@..." <earljreese@...>; "Earn4462@..." <Earn4462@...>; "ELLIAJT@..." <ELLIAJT@...>; "evedemian@..." <evedemian@...>; "fox95010@..." <fox95010@...>; "freelancer514@..." <freelancer514@...>; "Gaylesafe@..." <Gaylesafe@...>; "Gunner847@..." <Gunner847@...>; "HappyCyn1@..." <HappyCyn1@...>; "Rockysma1@..." <Rockysma1@...>; "JBoyle10@..." <JBoyle10@...>; "Jeri006@..." <Jeri006@...>; "jreed62254@..." <jreed62254@...>; "JimiBee22@..." <JimiBee22@...>; "JPassgo@..." <JPassgo@...>; "pasharabit@..." <pasharabit@...>; "edpals2@..." <edpals2@...>; "judyfuller007@..." <judyfuller007@...>; "lenaprimeaux@..." <lenaprimeaux@...>; "Num1Mema@..." <Num1Mema@...>; "lfeverest@..." <lfeverest@...>; "loriefartlett@..." <loriefartlett@...>; "Scorpi0Lady1@..." <Scorpi0Lady1@...>; "maximus475@..." <maximus475@...>; "michelle.seltzer@..." <michelle.seltzer@...>; "patriot451@..." <patriot451@...>; "paul_dunk@..." <paul_dunk@...>; "Postherguy@..." <Postherguy@...>; "peterjfescue@..." <peterjfescue@...>; "phayes9402@..." <phayes9402@...>; "rgellar000@..." <rgellar000@...>; "sherrydawn06@..." <sherrydawn06@...>; "sirguy2003@..." <sirguy2003@...>; "74526.3101@..." <74526.3101@...>; "carpbear@..." <carpbear@...>; "boldsaber@..." <boldsaber@...>; "AudioLaw@..." <AudioLaw@...>; "sergeantfreedom@..." <sergeantfreedom@...>; "USMCdaughter1@..." <USMCdaughter1@...>; "wallyny@..." <wallyny@...>; "wheink@..." <wheink@...>; "welcome_hotel@yahoogroups.com" <welcome_hotel@yahoogroups.com>; "rblaine_1941@..." <rblaine_1941@...>; "davidw1235@..." <davidw1235@...> Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2013 2:14 PM Subject: Re: ]World-Wide_Politics[ Re: Obama Suggests Only Lawyers Understand the Constitution No "rights" in the Constitution? How about you hang on to that belief and I'll hang on to mine. From: B Burgess <fticeo@...> To: "World-Wide_Politics@yahoogroups.com" <World-Wide_Politics@yahoogroups.com>; "advancedstudiesca@..." <advancedstudiesca@...> Cc: "d3869@..." <d3869@...>; "algae5636@..." <algae5636@...>; "Anneteresa1@..." <Anneteresa1@...>; "rhgusn@..." <rhgusn@...>; "Bullfrogsnavy@..." <Bullfrogsnavy@...>; "vanzorge@..." <vanzorge@...>; "baywife@..." <baywife@...>; "cbhensler@..." <cbhensler@...>; "gmaduck@..." <gmaduck@...>; "conner2or@..." <conner2or@...>; "patrick.henry.wanted@..." <patrick.henry.wanted@...>; "Dag_Gano@..." <Dag_Gano@...>; "whatnowgop@..." <whatnowgop@...>; "djibril888@..." <djibril888@...>; "colony14@..." <colony14@...>; "d3869@..." <d3869@...>; "d3869@..." <d3869@...>; "drecpa@..." <drecpa@...>; "ducky4817@..." <ducky4817@...>; "earljreese@..." <earljreese@...>; "Earn4462@..." <Earn4462@...>; "ELLIAJT@..." <ELLIAJT@...>; "evedemian@..." <evedemian@...>; "fox95010@..." <fox95010@...>; "freelancer514@..." <freelancer514@...>; "beau@..." <beau@...>; "Gaylesafe@..." <Gaylesafe@...>; "Gunner847@..." <Gunner847@...>; "HappyCyn1@..." <HappyCyn1@...>; "Rockysma1@..." <Rockysma1@...>; "JBoyle10@..." <JBoyle10@...>; "Jeri006@..." <Jeri006@...>; "jreed62254@..." <jreed62254@...>; "JimiBee22@..." <JimiBee22@...>; "JPassgo@..." <JPassgo@...>; "pasharabit@..." <pasharabit@...>; "edpals2@..." <edpals2@...>; "judyfuller007@..." <judyfuller007@...>; "lenaprimeaux@..." <lenaprimeaux@...>; "Num1Mema@..." <Num1Mema@...>; "lfeverest@..." <lfeverest@...>; "loriefartlett@..." <loriefartlett@...>; "Scorpi0Lady1@..." <Scorpi0Lady1@...>; "maximus475@..." <maximus475@...>; "michelle.seltzer@..." <michelle.seltzer@...>; "patriot451@..." <patriot451@...>; "paul_dunk@..." <paul_dunk@...>; "Postherguy@..." <Postherguy@...>; "peterjfescue@..." <peterjfescue@...>; "phayes9402@..." <phayes9402@...>; "rgellar000@..." <rgellar000@...>; "sherrydawn06@..." <sherrydawn06@...>; "sirguy2003@..." <sirguy2003@...>; "74526.3101@..." <74526.3101@...>; "carpbear@..." <carpbear@...>; "boldsaber@..." <boldsaber@...>; "AudioLaw@..." <AudioLaw@...>; "sergeantfreedom@..." <sergeantfreedom@...>; "USMCdaughter1@..." <USMCdaughter1@...>; "wallyny@..." <wallyny@...>; "wheink@..." <wheink@...>; "welcome_hotel@yahoogroups.com" <welcome_hotel@yahoogroups.com>; "rblaine_1941@..." <rblaine_1941@...>; "davidw1235@..." <davidw1235@...> Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2013 2:03 PM Subject: Re: ]World-Wide_Politics[ Re: Obama Suggests Only Lawyers Understand the Constitution I have been following these posts regarding what someone suggests that Mr. Obama suggests regarding only Lawyers understanding the U.S. Constitution. Well that statement may only be partially true in that there are many so called Lawyers that don't have a clue regarding the U.S. Constitution. Their ranks are slightly better than that of the general population in America regarding understanding the U.S. Constitution. After all, the U.S. Constitution was written as a highly technical document and the said Lawyers attended the very same fool school system that the rest of the general population in America did.  Nearly all of you reading this response post have no clue that the U.S. Constitution does not apply to you. It contains no so called RIGHTS that you, and all your fore-family members have been led to believe. If you don't believe me, read it and show us where said RIGHTS are documented within it. In fact, the majority of you reading this post don't even understand the meaning of the first (1st) three (3) words, We the People. If Mr. Obama suggested that only Lawyers understand the U.S. Constitution he was being very generous. As stated above the U.S. Constitution is a highly technical document. It is not drafted in everyday English. It was drafted using 'TERMS' that you and nearly all Americans currently only recognize as everyday 'WORDS' of common usage. However, 'TERMS' do not share the same meanings as the 'WORDS' that we use everyday or the definitions found within the dictionaries that we use. Nearly all Americans including the vast majority of American Lawyers today are more than likely thinking that this is complete lunacy. Well, read the attached to determine if these assertions are lunacy or a better explanation of those deep routed concerns that you have regarding so called freedom and Rights that don't appear to be working the way you were taught. Just trying to fix stupid...   B. Burgess From: "ShadysLife@..." <ShadysLife@...> To: advancedstudiesca@... Cc: d3869@...; algae5636@...; Anneteresa1@...; rhgusn@...; Bullfrogsnavy@...; vanzorge@...; baywife@...; cbhensler@...; gmaduck@...; conner2or@...; patrick.henry.wanted@...; Dag_Gano@...; whatnowgop@...; djibril888@...; colony14@...; d3869@...; d3869@...; drecpa@...; ducky4817@...; earljreese@...; Earn4462@...; ELLIAJT@...; evedemian@...; fox95010@...; freelancer514@...; beau@...; Gaylesafe@...; Gunner847@...; HappyCyn1@...; Rockysma1@...; JBoyle10@...; Jeri006@...; jreed62254@...; JimiBee22@...; JPassgo@...; pasharabit@...; edpals2@...; judyfuller007@...; lenaprimeaux@...; Num1Mema@...; lfeverest@...; loriefartlett@...; Scorpi0Lady1@...; maximus475@...; michelle.seltzer@...; patriot451@...; paul_dunk@...; Postherguy@...; peterjfescue@...; phayes9402@...; rgellar000@...; sherrydawn06@...; sirguy2003@...; 74526.3101@...; carpbear@...; boldsaber@...; AudioLaw@...; sergeantfreedom@...; USMCdaughter1@...; wallyny@...; wheink@...; welcome_hotel@yahoogroups.com; rblaine_1941@...; davidw1235@...; World-wide_Politics@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2013 6:24 PM Subject: ]World-Wide_Politics[ Re: Obama Suggests Only Lawyers Understand the Constitution   All the bucks loaned to our auto industry have been paid back with interest.Every thing is doing well. Housing, Job growth, Banks are thriving. Stock market doing great. That's what counts. Your BS are lies. Any dealings with Banks are carried out by Obama's experts in that field.The Republicans are threatening  to shut down The Government. Like Obama said to Romney."Carry on Governor" and that's when Romney lost any chance at all of becoming POTUS. Americans are watching the end of the Republican Party and their laughing at the absurd losers.                                     In a message dated 7/31/2013 5:04:22 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, advancedstudiesca@... writes: Well Shady, you come off as quite the  expert in legal matters ... answer these questions:
    >  >Discuss how Obama took over the auto  industry (minus Ford Motor) and how he kept within the confines of the U.S.  Constitution, U.S. Civil Codes, U.S. Commercial Codes and bankruptcy  laws?  How did he pick one creditor (the Labor Union Pension Fund, for  instance) and threw all secured bank note-holders, for  instance, out?  How did Obama go around the normal bankruptcy rules  and simply took complete control?  Why were the stockholders (of which,  there were many 401K, Mutual Funds and other individual retirement  accounts invested in the company stock) thrown out of the process by Obama and  how did he do that Constitutionally or through what U.S. Commercial or Civil  Codes? >Let's start there ... put up or shut up  ... >  > > >On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 11:37 AM, <ShadysLife@...> wrote: > >>Obama fully understands the constitution but you don't. All lawyers  THINK they understand the constitution.  The constitution as  written and its Amendments as ratified are always up for argument by  any Citizen. Before you go shooting off your very dumb mouth you could  at least find out what you are being stupid about. >>You have Obama embedded in your very useless small brain. That's  cool.   >>                                    >>                                   >>In a message dated 7/31/2013 1:34:03 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, advancedstudiesca@... writes: >>Obama is not only a lawyer  ... but, a supposed Constitutional scholar (having taught Constitutional  Law) ... yet, he doesn't understand it.  He just abuses and ignores  the U.S. Constitution.  It means nothing to Obama.  Maybe that's  the kind of understanding he's referring to?! >>> >>> >>>On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 12:33 AM, Don Divine <d3869@...> wrote: >>>Obama  Suggests Only Lawyers Understand the Constitution >>>>July 29,  2013 - 2:28 PM >>>>  >>>>By  Elizabeth Harrington >>>>(CNSNews.com)  - President Obama suggested in an interview with the New York Times that  was published on Saturday that you need to be a lawyer to understand the  U.S. Constitution. >>>>The  president made the suggestion when talking about members of Congress who  have argued he does not have the constitutional authority to  unilaterally suspend enforcement of parts of the Obamacare  law. >>>>The  Times asked Obama if he “consulted” with his lawyer when making the  decision to suspend the employer mandate, which would require businesses  with more than 50 employees to buy them health insurance, and which was  supposed to take effect on Jan. 1,  2014. >>>>“[I]f  you heard me on stage today, what I said was that I will seize any  opportunity I can find to work with Congress to strengthen the middle  class, improve their prospects, improve their security,” Obama  said. >>>>“But where  Congress is unwilling to act, I will take whatever administrative steps  that I can in order to do right by the American people,” he  said. >>>>“And if  Congress thinks that what I’ve done is inappropriate or wrong in some  fashion, they’re free to make that case,” Obama added.  “But  there’s not an action that I take that you don't have some folks in  Congress who say that I'm usurping my authority.  Some of those  folks think I usurp my authority by having the gall to win the  presidency. And I don't think that's a secret.” >>>>“But,  ultimately, I’m not concerned about their opinions--very few of them, by  the way, are lawyers, much less constitutional lawyers,” the president  said. >>>>George  Washington, first president of United States, presided over the  convention that established the Constitution, led the Revolutionary War,  and is considered the 'Father of the Nation' -- was not a  lawyer. >>>>Obama  was a lecturer in  constitutional law at the University of Chicago Law School from 1992 to  1996, and a senior lecturer from 1996 to 2004. Those positions were not  full-time or tenure-track. Obama was invited to join the faculty in a  tenure-track position but he declined. >>>>Many  Republicans in Congress say that the president does not have the power  to pick and choose when mandates are enforced, contrary to the  law. >>>>Sen.  Mike Lee (R-Utah), a lawyer who clerked for Supreme Court Justice Samuel  Alito, arguesthat  Obama has violated his constitutional obligation to faithfully execute  the law by suspending the deadline for the Obamacare mandate that  requires large employers to provide health insurance for their workers.   The mandate was supposed to begin on Dec. 31, 2013. >>>>Founding  Father George Washington, who led America to victory in the  Revolutionary War and was the first U.S. president (two terms  1789-1797), was not a lawyer. >>>>Washington  presided over the convention that drafted the Constitution and  established the presidency. He is considered the “Father of the Nation.”  His only schooling was seven years of tutoring by his father and  half-brother Lawrence. >>>>  >>>>- See  more at: http://cnsnews.com/news/article/obama-suggests-only-lawyers-understand-constitution#sthash.eGk3THi6.dpuf >>>>  >>>>  >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>“Is  life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of  chains or slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course  others may take but as for me; give me liberty or give me  death!” >>>>--Patrick Henry >>>>The tree of liberty must  be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and  tyrants. >>>>Thomas  Jefferson >>> >
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