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    Gary Beauregard aka Bear (beau@gcbussu.com) Obama is a pimp and a phony and the Irish recognize it.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8SX58vqcEU0 Don Divine WWP
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      Gary Beauregard aka Bear (beau@...) Obama is a pimp and a phony and the Irish recognize it.

      Don Divine WWP Email Member (d3869@...) Galatians 3:28
      New International Version (NIV)
      28 There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.

      Let the women keep silent in the churches – What did
      Paul mean?
      By Dianne McDonnell
      The apostle Paul wrote letters to
      churches to mediate in the problems of each church and set guidelines for them
      to follow. Many believe that Paul set up a rule that all Christian women must
      "keep silent" during church services. Some extend this to mean that
      women may not offer prayers, lead songs, read scriptures aloud or have any
      leadership role during or after services. To limit the women of God in such a
      way is a serious thing, and we must be very sure that Paul's words are being
      understood correctly.
      We are handicapped when we read the
      letter Paul wrote to the church at Corinth because we do not know exactly what
      events Paul was responding to. They knew-- but we have to read very carefully
      and ask in prayer for God to help us understand the situations that prompted
      Paul's first letter to the church at Corinth, the New Testament book of 1
      Corinthians. Please take a moment now to pray to God for understanding and
      In 1 Cor. 11:13 Paul deals with a
      controversy about whether women should have their heads covered while praying
      and prophesying. Jewish women wore head-covering veils; gentile women did not.
      Evidently the two cultures were in conflict over women's head coverings, but
      not whether women should participate! He concludes that long hair becomes a
      covering for women who pray and prophesy publicly. Note that Paul's words here
      do NOT stop the women from praying and prophesying aloud during church services
      as some would assume.
      Acts 21:9 reveals that Phillip the
      evangelist had "four virgin daughters who prophesied." A true
      prophecy is a message from God to a specific person or church. Would any
      minister of God refuse to let a woman deliver a true message that God had given
      her for the people of God?  We have every reason to believe that converted
      Christian women such as the daughters of Phillip were participating in church
      services-- using their own God-given spiritual gifts, and Paul did not oppose
      their participation.
      Yet the church at Corinth was having
      some problems that had to do with false prophets or prophetesses. Paul must
      deal with the problem without shutting down the church's access to the true
      prophets and prophetesses of God.  It was a touchy situation. 
      Key that unlocks the "keep silent" passage!
      To understand Paul's comments in
      chapter 14 about women "keeping silent" there is one critical KEY
      passage that comes first!  Many have overlooked it and read right past
      it-- but once it is understood the entire passage begins to fall into place.
      We start in 1 Corinthians, chapter
      12. Lets examine it verse by verse using the very literal New American Standard
      Bible. Brackets {indicate words added by translators that are not in the Greek}
      and parenthesis (indicate the author's comments or explanations).
      1 Cor. 12:1-3
      1   Now concerning
      spiritual {gifts,} brethren, I do not want you to be unaware.
      2  You know that when you were
      pagans, {you were} led astray to the dumb idols, however you were led.
      We realize that some that attend the
      Corinth church are still involved with pagan idols. He points out that the
      members were once led astray themselves. Paul leads his readers towards
      compassion and reconciliation towards those that are still unconverted
      "pagans" in their midst.
      3   Therefore I make known
      to you, that no one[i] speaking by the Spirit of God says, "Jesus is accursed"; and
      no one can say, "Jesus is Lord," except by the Holy Spirit.
      Why is Paul making such an obvious
      statement? Doesn't everyone already KNOW that anyone saying, "Jesus is
      accursed" is not speaking by the spirit of God? Paul goes on to explain
      and defend spiritual gifts, talk about love, and finally reprimand women or
      wives causing disturbances in chapter 14. The only way the words "Jesus is
      accursed" fits into the rebuke that follows is if Paul is reacting to a
      specific incident reported to him that he needs to deal with. In these
      statements he is first bringing up the subject of what has happened in the
      Corinthian church! Misguided persons--still considered pagans-- have disrupted
      services with a false prophecy of "Jesus is accursed!" and opposing
      true prophets have countered with, "Jesus is Lord!" in reply!
      teaches that ALL receive spiritual gifts
      Notice that in these verses
      immediately following the above verses, Paul is defending the concept of
      spiritual gifts given to every single true believer-- both males and
      1 Cor. 12:4-11
      4   Now there are
      varieties of gifts, but the same Spirit.
      5   And there are
      varieties of ministries, and the same Lord.
      6  And there are varieties of
      effects, but the same God who works all things in all {persons}.
      Here he teaches that both men and
      women are given manifestation of the Holy Spirit-- spiritual gifts-- for the
      benefit of the entire church, not just for their own benefit.
      7   But to each one[ii] is given the manifestation of the Spirit for the common good.
      8   For to one is given
      the word of wisdom through the Spirit, and to another the word of
      knowledge according to the same Spirit;
      9   to another faith by the same Spirit, and to another gifts of healing by the one Spirit,
      10   and to another the
      effecting of miracles, and to another prophecy, and to another
      the distinguishing of spirits, to another {various} kinds of tongues,
      and to another the interpretation of tongues.
      11   But one and the same
      Spirit works all these things, distributing to each one[iii] individually just as He wills.
      Paul is going out of his way to
      enforce that "each one" is given a spiritual gift/ role or part to
      play in God's Church. God gives these roles as He desires-- only God can decide
      what spiritual gift is given to each man and woman! Paul does not say anything
      to indicate that "these public roles are the male gifts, and these private
      roles are the female gifts" as some teach.
      Paul is making it PLAIN that he does
      not wish to exclude anyone or anyone's spiritual gift, but verses 2 and 3 show
      us that someone-- possibly a woman-- has said, "Jesus be cursed", and
      this was not from God's Spirit! Paul warns them of the error of this message,
      yet also defends the rights of all true believers-- both male and female-- to
      participate in church services.
      and Love
      The next portion of Paul's letter,
      chapter 13, is still on the subject of prophecy as he moves closer to dealing
      with the specific problem. He tells them that love is more important than
      prophecy as he tries to change their attitudes to loving attitudes to heal the
      disruption that has upset and angered their congregation.
      1 Cor
      13:2            And if I
      have {the gift of} prophecy, and know all mysteries and all knowledge; and if I
      have all faith, so as to remove mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing.
      Moving into chapter 14 Paul writes,
      "Pursue love, yet desire earnestly spiritual {gifts}, but especially that
      you may prophesy."
      Paul keeps returning to the subject
      of prophecy because the problem that he is trying to solve involves a woman who
      is falsely presenting herself as a prophetess. The daughters of Phillip are
      true prophetesses, but this women is still "led astray to the dumb
      He points out that prophecy should
      edify the church, 1 Cor 14:4, and talks against speech that has an unclear
      meaning, a babbling, in verses 5-13. This unclear speech may relate to the
      worship of "dumb idols" in the city of Delphi just north of Corinth.
      People from all over the world came to Delphi to hear babbling that was
      supposed to be from a "god"!
      or Wives?
      We must also bear in mind that the
      Greeks had only one word for both woman and wife-- the word "gune[iv]".
      The same word that Paul uses in 1 Cor 14:34 is translated "wives" in
      many passages such as Matthew 19:8, "Jesus replied, 'Moses permitted you
      to divorce your wives...'" and many others including Ephesians 5:25
      and 1 Peter 3:1.  So when Paul writes, "Let the women keep
      silent" he uses a word with two meanings! He may well be referring to
      "wives" who are unconverted and untaught-- the very one that
      "prophesied" that "Jesus was accursed" as recorded in 1 Cor
      12:3. The church at Corinth would know exactly which wife or wives he meant!
      For us today, we must rely on context clues to reveal whether Paul was talking
      of women in general or specific wives.
      and a woman minister
      Corinth was a large seacoast city on
      the Gulf of Corinth, and its eastern port was called Cenchrea.[v] This port area of Corinth was the home of Phoebe, mentioned in Romans 16:1 as a
      "diakonon" which is translated "servant" in this passage.
      This same exact word is translated "minister" in "is Christ then
      the minister of sin?" Galatians 2:17. Paul refers to himself in
      Ephesian 3:7, "I became a minister" and in Col. 1:25, "I
      am made a minister" using the same exact word. Also see 1 Cor. 3:5,
      "ministers by whom ye believed", as well as 2 Cor. 3:6, "ministers of the new covenant". [vi] This woman minister traveled to Rome carrying the book of Romans, and is highly
      praised by Paul.  See the paper "Traveling through Time" for
      more information about her. Since Phoebe was a minister from the eastern port
      of Corinth, it is a major proof that Paul but did not restrict Phoebe and
      others from playing a major role in churches of that area.
      background information: The Oracle of Delphi
      Just across the bay from Corinth was
      a major attraction of the ancient world, the Oracle of Delphi. On the southern
      slope of Mt. Parnassus, female priestesses presided over a stone temple and
      delivered answers for those seeking guidance from the "god" Apollo on
      everything from romance to whether to wage war. A prophetess about fifty-five
      years old would receive a question written on a lead tablet and would descend
      to the basement of the temple where she breathed fumes of ethelyne, a
      sweet-smelling gas that produces feelings of euphoria. The gas drifted up from
      a fault line under the temple. Modern researchers have verified the presence of
      this gas and it can still be detected today.[vii] 
      The priestess would utter "prophecies" while she was in a trance-like
      state, and these would pour out in a garbled state. Male priests
      "interpreted" these sounds. Interpretations were usually vague and
      ambiguous-- increasing their chances of being perceived as accurate.[viii]
      The Oracle of Delphi existed for
      twelve centuries and was very famous in the ancient world. The congregation in
      Corinth was well aware of it and many probably witnessed the "oracle"
      in person. The unconverted mates of church members might still have been
      involved in similar pagan worship, as Delphi was only about forty miles north
      of Corinth across what is known today as the Gulf of Corinth.
      Paul writes, "For you can all
      prophesy one by one, so that all may learn and all may be exhorted;" 1 Cor
      14:31. Notice he doesn't say that all MEN may prophesy, but that ALL can
      prophesy if it is done "one by one".  In verse 32 he adds that
      "the spirits of the prophets are subject to prophets"; meaning that
      true prophets are not out of control or in some gas-induced trance, as were the
      priestesses of Delphi. Prophets of God have control over their spirits and
      their speaking.
      God of Peace in all the churches of the saints
      Verse 33 clearly illustrates that
      this entire issue was about confusion and disruption in the church, not Paul
      seeking to take away the rights of Christian women to participate.
      1 Cor.
      14:33            for God
      is not {a God} of confusion but of peace, as in all the
      churches of the saints.[ix]
      keeping silent
      1 Cor 14:34
      34   Let the {or *those}
      women (the same word as "wives") keep silent in the churches
      {church}; for they are not permitted to speak, but let them subject themselves,
      just as the Law also says.
      Greeks have many forms of the word "the" but this exact word is
      "hai" 3588. .In all the following  New King James
      scriptures the same word in the male form --"hoi"
      is  translated "those":  John 6:14, "those men"
      ;  John 8:29 KJV, "those things"; Romans 8:5 "For those who"; Romans 8:8, "those who are in the flesh" NKJ; 
      1 Cor 10:18, "those who eat";  1 Cor. 15:18, "those who have fallen asleep"; and 1 Cor. 15:23, "those who are
      Christ's";   Gal. 3:9, "those who are of
      faith"; Gal. 5:24, "those who are Christ's"; Gal. 6:13,
      "those who are";  1Thes. 5:7, "Those who
      sleep"; 1 Tim 3:13 "For those who have served well; 2Tim.
      1:15, "all those in Asia"; 2 Tim 3:6, "those who
      By using the feminine form of this
      word, "hai",  Paul is saying, "Let those wives
      keep silent..."  Not ALL women, just those causing confusion!
      Paul is urging the churches to start
      a policy of limiting the participation of "those" wives, unconverted
      wives, who must subject themselves to their converted husbands, not causing any
      further disruption. Paul's reference to "the Law" may be a reference
      to Genesis 3:16 which relates to being subject to a husband in marriage.
      with converted husbands
      1 Cor 14:35
      35   And if they
      desire to learn anything, let them ask their own husbands at home; ..."
      The phrase "if they
      desire to learn anything" expresses doubt whether these wives were wanting
      to learn. He implies they were just there to cause problems! Clearly Paul is
      dealing with specific wives because these being reprimanded have converted
      husbands they may ask at home.  Wives with unconverted husbands could NOT
      "ask their own husbands at home, nor could unmarried women or widows.
      He continues, "for it is
      improper for a woman (wife) to speak in church (the last two Greek words are-- en
      ekkleesia, which can also be translated among the true believers.)
      The Greek en is
      translated "among" in Matt. 27:56, "among which
      was Mary Magdalene" and Romans 8:29, "among many
      brethren" and countless other scriptures.[x]   Paul says that this unconverted wife may not speak among the "ekkleesia" 
      among the converted male and female members participating in services!
      The word "ekkleesia"
      translated "church" does not refer to a church building but to the
      entire congregation of Christian believers-- both men and women! Ekkleesia is defined by Thayer's Greek/Engllish Definitions as "an assembly
      of Christians gathered for worship." It also means "called out"
      ones. This disruptive wife who babbles blasphemous
      "prophecies" is not a part of the baptized believers (the ekkleesia),
      and she is not to speak among the converted Christian men and women as
      do the women with the true spiritual gift of prophecy. The passage should be
      translated as follows:
      1 Cor 14:34-35
      34   Let those wives keep silent among the called out ones; for they are not permitted to
      speak, but let them subject themselves, just as the Law also says. And if they
      desire to learn anything, let them ask their own husbands at home; for it is
      improper for a wife to speak among the called out ones.
      only talks to you?
      Paul's next words of biting sarcasm
      reflect his anger at this would be prophetess:
      1 Cor. 14:36
      36     Was it
      from you that the word of God {first} went forth? Or has it come to you only?
      This proves that prophetic blasphemy
      has caused this uproar, the false prophecy of 1 Cor 12:3 delivered by a woman
      acting in a manner much like a prophetess of Delphi speaking for Apollo! She
      uttered a garbled "prophecy" and interpreted it as "Jesus is
      cursed." To be sure that this woman who considered herself a prophetess
      accepts his ruling in this situation Paul adds-
      1 Cor. 14:37-40
      37   If anyone thinks
      he[xi] (or she) is a prophet or spiritual, let him (or her) recognize that the things
      which I write to you are the Lord's commandment.
      38   But if anyone does
      not recognize {this}  he (or she) is not recognized.
      Yet Paul is NOT limiting the
      brethren of the church, the men and women given spiritual gifts, for he tells
      the "brethren," the converted men and women-- to desire to prophesy!
      39   Therefore, my
      brethren (men and women of theekkleesia), desire earnestly to
      prophesy, and do not forbid to speak in tongues.
      Paul's last words of chapter
      14  show he is dealing with disorder-- and those causing it.
      40     But let all things be done properly andin an orderly manner.  
      Curse on the person cursing Jesus!
      Paul ends his letter with a threat
      towards the one who announced in services, "Jesus be cursed"
      mentioned in 1Cor 12:3. He concludes, "If anyone does not love the
      Lord, a curse be on him. (The Greek could mean him or her.) O Lord,
      come!"  1Cor 16:22, NIV.
      "Male" or "Female" Gifts
      Further proof that Paul did not
      limit women's participation in the church services of the churches is found in
      this same letter in 1 Cor 12:28-31.
      28   And God has appointed
      in the church, first apostles, second prophets, third teachers,
      then miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, administrations,
      {various} kinds of tongues. (Paul lists prophets second in the order of
      responsibility before God.)
      29   All are not apostles,
      are they? All are not prophets, are they? All are not teachers, are they? All
      are not {workers of} miracles, are they?
      30   All do not have gifts
      of healings, do they? All do not speak with tongues, do they? All do not
      interpret, do they?
      31   But earnestly
      desire the greater gifts....
      Chapter 12 deals with spiritual
      gifts and Paul considers all the church offices listed above, apostles,
      prophets, teachers, etc. as spiritual gifts, given by God, not man! There
      is not a single scripture that lists some of these as "male" gifts
      and some of these as "female" gifts. Paul argues that each person
      receives a gift, and advises all to "desire the greater gifts"! Would
      he say that if any of the top five gifts were "off limits" to women?
      1 Cor. 12:7
      7   But to each one[xii] is given the manifestation of the Spirit for the common good.
      Women are given spiritual gifts by
      God to use for the common good of the people of God. Paul did not take away the
      right of women to use these spiritual gifts in services-- a woman with a gift
      of encouragement must be allowed to encourage. A woman with a gift of faith
      must be allowed to offer a prayer of faith. A woman with a word of wisdom must
      be allowed to publicly share her wisdom with the congregation. A woman with a
      musical gift must be allowed to lead joyful songs of praise. A woman with a
      gift of teaching must be allowed to teach truth. (See "Paul and Woman
      Teachers" for an explanation of the very misunderstood 1 Tim 2:12.) God
      does NOT limit His women. God sees women as equal to serve Him with whatever
      gifts He has given them to use for the common good.
      If women are unable to participate
      during church services, then many are unable to contribute the gift God has
      given to them. Each spiritual gift is given for the benefit of the church as a
      whole-- the inability to participate in church services is like God giving a
      woman a beautifully wrapped, expensive gift--a present that would help her
      entire church-- and then telling her that she cannot open it! Would God do such
      a thing? No, He does not. Neither must men. To quote the words of Craig S.
      Keener, "...it is a dangerous thing to turn people from their call, or to
      oppose their call if it is genuinely from God.[xiii]


      [i]In this verse, The King James Version reads, "no
      man" but "man" is not in the Greek. The word is a form of 3762
      "oudeis" meaning no one. It can include both men and women.
      [ii]The Greek word used is "hekastos" 1538, meaning
      "each, every"; The King James is in error to translate, "to
      every man".
      [iii]The word is " hekastos" 1538  each, every;
      The King James is in error to translate, "every man".
      [iv]Strong's number 1248, meaning a woman or wife. The actual
      word used in 1 Cor. 14:34 is "gunaikes" the plural form.
      [v]Thayer's Greek/English Definitions, 2747 Cenchrea =
      "millet" the eastern harbor of Corinth (that is, its harbor on the
      Saronic Gulf) and the emporium of its trade with the Asiatic shores of the
      [vi]Strong's 1249 diakonos Translated
      "minister" or "ministers" in Eph. 6:21,  2Cor. 6:4,
      11:15, 23. Col. 1:7, 23, 25. 1Tim. 4:6 in the King James Version.
      [vii]Reported in the Star-Telegram March 24, 2002, Page 23A, and
      Clinical Toxicology, April 2002.
      [viii]World Book Enclyclopedia, 1962 Edition, Vol. 4,  Page
      [ix]Some Bible versions incorrectly punctuate this verse by
      ending it with a comma rather than a period.
      [x]See Matt. 2:6 "among the princes", Matt 4:23,
      "among the people", Matt. 11:11, 16:7,8; 20:26,27; 21:38; 26:5;
      Romans 1:5,6,13 and numerous other places throughout the New Testament.
      [xi]The "he" is not in the Greek but is taken from a
      verb in the second person, and could be "he" or "she".
      [xii]The King James incorrectly translates "to every man"
      but "man" is not in the Greek.
      [xiii]Quoted from Paul, Women and Wives, Hendrickson Publishers,
      Inc.1992, page 120.
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