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  • Don Divine
    Don Divine WWP Email Member (d3869@sbcglobal.net) Material following not written by the poster Taxation Is Theft Judge Andrew P. Napolitano 18 April 2013 With
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      Don Divine WWP Email Member (d3869@...)
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      Taxation Is Theft

      Judge Andrew
      P. Napolitano 18 April 2013

      With a tax code that
      exceeds 72,000 pages in length and consumes more than six billion person hours
      per year to determine taxpayers' taxable income, with an IRS that has become a
      feared law unto itself, and with a government that continues to extract more
      wealth from every taxpaying American every year, is it any wonder that April
      15th is a day of dread in America? Social Security taxes and income taxes have
      dogged us all since their institution during the last century, and few
      politicians have been willing to address these ploys for what they are: theft.

      Texas Gov. Rick Perry
      caused a firestorm among big-government types during the Republican
      presidential primaries last year when he called Social Security a Ponzi scheme.
      He was right. It's been a scam from its inception, and it's still a scam today.

      When Social Security
      was established in 1935, it
      was intended to provide minimal
      financial assistance to those too old to work. It was also intended to cause voters to
      become dependent on Franklin Delano Roosevelt's Democrats. FDR copied
      the idea from a system established in Italy by Mussolini. The plan was to have
      certain workers and their employers make small contributions to a fund that would
      be held in trust for the workers by the government. At the time, the average
      life expectancy of Americans was 61 years of age, but Social Security didn't
      kick in until age 65. Thus, the system was geared to take money from the
      average American worker that he would never see returned.

      Over time, life
      expectancy grew and surpassed 65, the so-called trust fund was raided and
      spent, and the system was paying out more money than it was taking in — just
      like a Ponzi scheme. FDR called Social Security an insurance policy. In
      reality, it has become forced savings. However, the custodian of the funds —
      Congress — has stolen the savings and spent it. And the value of the savings
      has been diminished by inflation.

      Today, the best one
      can hope to receive from Social Security is dollars with the buying power of 75
      cents for every dollar contributed. That makes Social Security worse than a
      Ponzi scheme. You can get out of a Ponzi investment. You can't get out of
      Social Security. Who would stay with a bank that returned only 75 percent of
      one's savings?

      The Constitution
      doesn't permit the feds to steal your money. But steal, the feds do.

      At one of last year's
      Republican presidential debates, a young man asked the moderator to pose the
      following question to the candidates: "If I earn a dollar, how much of it
      am I entitled to keep?" The question was passed to one of the candidates,
      who punted, and then the moderator changed the topic. Only Congressman Ron Paul
      gave a serious post-debate answer to the young man's question: "All of
      it."

      Every official
      foundational government document — from the Declaration of Independence to the
      U.S.








      Constitution to the
      oaths that everyone who works for the government takes — indicates that the
      government exists to work for us. The Declaration even proclaims that the
      government receives all of its powers from the consent of the governed. If you
      believe all this, as I do, then just as we don't have the power to take our
      neighbor's property and distribute it against his will, we lack the ability to
      give that power to the government. Stated differently, just as you lack the
      moral and legal ability to take my property, you cannot authorize the
      government to do so.

      Here's an example
      you've heard before. You're sitting at home at night, and there's a knock at
      the door. You open the door, and a guy with a gun pointed at you says:
      "Give me your money. I want to give it away to the less fortunate."
      You think he's dangerous and crazy, so you call the police. Then you find out
      he is the police, there to collect your taxes.

      The framers of the
      Constitution understood this. For 150 years, the federal government was run by
      user fees and sales of government land and assessments to the states for
      services rendered. It rejected the Hamiltonian view that the feds could take
      whatever they wanted, and it followed the Jeffersonian first principle that the
      only moral commercial exchanges are those that are fully voluntary.

      This worked well until
      the progressives took over the government in the first decade of the 20th
      century. They persuaded enough Americans to cause their state legislatures to
      ratify the Sixteenth Amendment, which was designed to tax the rich and
      redistribute wealth. They
      promised the American public that the income tax would never exceed 3 percent
      of income and would only apply to the top 3 percent of earners. How wrong — or
      deceptive — they were.

      Yet, the imposition of
      a federal income tax is more than just taking from those who work and earn and
      giving to those who don't. And it is more than just a spigot to fill the federal
      trough. At its base, it is a terrifying presumption. It presumes that we don't
      really own our property. It accepts the Marxist notion that the state owns all
      the property and the state permits us to keep and use whatever it needs us to
      have so we won't riot in the streets. And then it steals and uses whatever it
      can politically get away with. Do you believe this?

      There are only three
      ways to acquire wealth in a free society. The inheritance model occurs when
      someone gives you wealth. The economic model occurs when you trade a skill, a
      talent, an asset, knowledge, sweat, energy or creativity to a willing buyer.
      And the mafia model occurs when a guy with a gun says: "Give me your money
      or else."

      Which model does the
      government use? Why do we put up with this?

      Andrew P. Napolitano,
      a former judge of the Superior Court of New Jersey, is the senior judicial
      analyst at Fox News Channel. Judge Napolitano has written seven books on the
      U.S. Constitution. The most recent is "Theodore and Woodrow: How Two American
      Presidents Destroyed Constitutional Freedom." To find out more about Judge
      Napolitano and to read features by other Creators Syndicate writers and
      cartoonists, visit www.creators.com.

       




      Ludwig Von Mises quotes Government cannot make man richer, but it can make him poorer.

      “Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains or slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take but as for me; give me liberty or give me death!”--Patrick Henry
      The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.
      Thomas Jefferson
    • Bill Stanley
      Bill Stanley WWP Poster (bill.stanley@gmail.com) AudioLaw is an idiot, FOX or other news outlets ARE NOT subsidized by tax dollars, in fact they actually PAY
      Message 2 of 12 , Apr 19, 2013
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        Bill Stanley WWP Poster (bill.stanley@...)\ AudioLaw is an idiot, FOX or other news outlets ARE NOT subsidized by tax
        dollars, in fact they actually PAY for the right to use the airwaves,
        broadband, and frequencies they use. Who and what the hell IS miss
        AudioLaw anyway, to not know that fact? Jesus, save me from idiots like that.

        Don Divine WWP Email Member (d3869@...) "Can anyone identify a single public statement that Andrew Napolitano has ever made that wasn't spread among his anti-American Teahadi worshippers by tax supported communication infrastructure? "
        Show us how either the Internet or Cable programming is tax supported.

        If we can but prevent the government from wasting the labours of the
        people, under the pretence of taking care of them, they must become happyAutomatic Lie, a larcenous litigious little'ol LA lying looney lightfooted liberal lawyer lacking legitimacy (AudioLaw@...) Can anyone identify a SINGLE THING that Andrew Napolitano has ever accomplished in his life without relying on tax supported government services that he pretends to hate?

        Can anyone identify a single public statement that Andrew Napolitano has ever made that wasn't spread among his anti-American Teahadi worshippers by tax supported communication infrastructure?

        I'm not going to hold my breath waiting.
      • audiolaw@...
        Thomas Montague Hall Esq. aka Automatic Lie Oligopolist member of the State Bar of California Monopoly (AudioLaw@aol.com) Bill Stanley: Both the broadcast
        Message 3 of 12 , Apr 19, 2013
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          Thomas Montague Hall Esq. aka Automatic Lie Oligopolist member of the State Bar of California Monopoly (AudioLaw@...) Bill Stanley:

          Both the broadcast stations and the cable ones are heavily subsidized.
          They get government licenses to use PUBLIC airwaves, and are then
          guaranteed profits.

          There are a couple of cities in the nation that have competing cable
          systems. But in all major cities, cable companies are given monopolies,
          protected by the government, and their billing (and profits) are vastly higher
          than in those places where cable companies are required to compete.

          There is NOT ONE SINGLE Tea Bag Republican Party politician in
          congress or any state government who wants to encourage competition in the cable
          industry, because they all make so much in bribes from cable companies.
          When it comes to protecting these businesses, all the pretenses about "free
          enterprise" and "capitalism" and "open markets" just evaporates.

          And then they get trash like you to lie about it.

          Bill Stanley WWP Poster (bill.stanley@...)\ AudioLaw is an idiot, FOX or other news outlets ARE NOT subsidized by tax
          dollars, in fact they actually PAY for the right to use the airwaves, broadband, and frequencies they use. Who and what the hell IS miss AudioLaw anyway, to not know that fact? Jesus, save me from idiots like that.

          Don Divine WWP Email Member (d3869@...) "Can anyone identify a single public statement that Andrew Napolitano has
          ever made that wasn't spread among his anti-American Teahadi worshippers by
          tax supported communication infrastructure? "



          Show us how either the Internet or Cable programming is tax supported.


          _If we can but prevent the government from wasting the labours of the
          people, under the pretence of taking care of them, they must become happy._
          (http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/t/thomasjeff136410.html)
          _Thomas Jefferson_
          (http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/t/thomasjeff136410.html)




          "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of
          patriots and tyrants."
          _Thomas Jefferson_
          (http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/t/thomasjeff109180.html)



          “Government is not reason, it is not eloquence – it is force. Like fire,
          it is a dangerous servant and fearful master.”
          George Washington

          “Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of
          chains or slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may
          take but as for me; give me liberty or give me death!”
          --Patrick Henry
        • Robin Crane
          Robin Crane WWP Invitee (patriot451@gmail.com) Cable stations do not use public airwaves and aren t subject to even the weak regulation that the broadcast
          Message 4 of 12 , Apr 20, 2013
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            Robin Crane WWP Invitee (patriot451@...) Cable stations do not use public airwaves and aren't subject to even the
            weak regulation that the "broadcast" networks are..

            *Robin Crane*



            *================================================*

            “If there is no struggle, there is no progress. This struggle may be a
            moral one, or it may be a physical one, and it may be both moral and
            physical, but it must be a struggle. Find out just what any people will
            quietly submit to — and you have found out the exact measure of injustice
            and wrong, which will be imposed upon them. . . . Power concedes nothing
            without a demand. It never did and it never will.”

            Frederick Douglass, August 3, 1857

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            Automatic Lie, a liberty loathing loony lowdown larcenous litigious little'ol LA living lying lightfooted liberal lawyer lacking legitimacy (AudioLaw@...) Bill Stanley:

            Both the broadcast stations and the cable ones are heavily subsidized. They get government licenses to use PUBLIC airwaves, and are then guaranteed profits.

            There are a couple of cities in the nation that have competing cable systems. But in all major cities, cable companies are given monopolies, protected by the government, and their billing (and profits) are vastly higher than in those places where cable companies are required to compete.

            There is NOT ONE SINGLE Tea Bag Republican Party politician in congress or any state government who wants to encourage competition in the cable industry, because they all make so much in bribes from cable companies. When it comes to protecting these businesses, all the pretenses about "free enterprise" and "capitalism" and "open markets" just evaporates.

            And then they get trash like you to lie about it.

            Bill Stanley WWP Poster (bill.stanley@...)\ AudioLaw is an idiot, FOX or other news outlets ARE NOT subsidized by tax dollars, in fact they actually PAY for the right to use the airwaves, broadband, and frequencies they use. Who and what the hell IS miss AudioLaw anyway, to not know that fact? Jesus, save me from idiots like that.
          • audiolaw@...
            Automatic Lie, a liberty loathing loony lowdown larcenous litigious little ol LA living lying lightfooted liberal lawyer lacking legitimacy (AudioLaw@aol.com)
            Message 5 of 12 , Apr 20, 2013
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              Automatic Lie, a liberty loathing loony lowdown larcenous litigious little'ol LA living lying lightfooted liberal lawyer lacking legitimacy (AudioLaw@...)
              Robin,


              Cable doesn't use "airwaves" except for their satellites (put in place
              with government funding), and their earthstations (on ground protected and
              powered by government infrastructure), and their microwave interlinks.


              Cable stations receive local monopoly licenses to operate free of
              competition. They string their cables along power poles by government mandate.


              There isn't a single cable company in the U.S. that doesn't exist
              SOLELY because of government subsidies and welfare. When we read news articles
              about Sumner Redstone or there Tea Party funder BILLIONAIRES who head cable
              empires, we should understand that EVERY SINGLE PENNY of their billions
              came from taxpayer pockets through government mandated corporate welfare and
              anti-competitive, monopoly protecting regulations.

              Robin Crane WWP Invitee (patriot451@...) Cable stations do not use public airwaves and aren't subject to even the
              weak regulation that the "broadcast" networks are..



              Robin Crane

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              “If there is no struggle, there is no progress. This struggle may be a
              moral one, or it may be a physical one, and it may be both moral and physical,
              but it must be a struggle. Find out just what any people will quietly
              submit to — and you have found out the exact measure of injustice and wrong,
              which will be imposed upon them. . . . Power concedes nothing without a
              demand. It never did and it never will.”


              Frederick Douglass, August 3, 1857


              ================================================

              Automatic Lie, a liberty loathing loony lowdown larcenous litigious little'ol LA living lying lightfooted liberal lawyer lacking legitimacy (AudioLaw@...) Bill Stanley:

              Both the broadcast stations and the cable ones are heavily subsidized.
              They get government licenses to use PUBLIC airwaves, and are then
              guaranteed profits.

              There are a couple of cities in the nation that have competing cable
              systems. But in all major cities, cable companies are given monopolies,
              protected by the government, and their billing (and profits) are vastly higher
              than in those places where cable companies are required to compete.

              There is NOT ONE SINGLE Tea Bag Republican Party politician in
              congress or any state government who wants to encourage competition in the cable
              industry, because they all make so much in bribes from cable companies.
              When it comes to protecting these businesses, all the pretenses about "free
              enterprise" and "capitalism" and "open markets" just evaporates.

              And then they get trash like you to lie about it.
            • Advanced Studies
              advancedstudiesca@gmail.com WWP Member *AudioUnlawful ... I m detecting a pattern with you. When there isn t an emotional response and there is (obviously) no
              Message 6 of 12 , Apr 20, 2013
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                advancedstudiesca@... WWP Member *AudioUnlawful ... I'm detecting a pattern with you. When there isn't an emotional response and there is (obviously) no logical point to your belief ... you change the subject to something that might produce an emotional response. As a debater ... you stink. As a logical and reasonable person... you show NO such dimension.*
                **
                *The Tax Laws change every year ... designed by liberals to jerk people
                around and allot favors to those special interests that back their power.
                It is a Chicago-style protection scheme setup by our "citizen legislators";
                who have morphed into professional politicians. Social Security is a Ponzi
                Scheme ... and it is just beginning to collapse with the Baby Boomers
                sucking the system dry. Medicare/Medicaid are socialist tools that are
                corrupt, inefficient and cost hundreds of billions of dollars more per year
                for America's health care. Obama, Reid and Pelosi didn't solve any of the
                structural problems of our national healthcare ... they just consolidated
                it and piled it on! *
                **
                *Progressive, leftist policies are caused the American dream to spin out of
                control ... and we're spiraling (as a country) into the abyss of history.
                We must stop Obama and the Democrats from this ultimate end ... at any cost.
                *

                Levon Christner (Mema) WWP Email Member (Num1Mema@...) The only television network that is funded by tax dollars is Public Television and the last time I checked, they were a liberal voice piece!
                They fired Juan Williams because he appears on Fox and he is a huge supporter of Barack! But you have to support liberal causes to be carried by them!

                Levon

                Bill Stanley WWP Poster (bill.stanley@...)\ AudioLaw is an idiot, FOX or other news outlets ARE NOT subsidized by tax dollars, in fact they actually PAY for the right to use the airwaves, broadband, and frequencies they use. Who and what the hell IS miss AudioLaw anyway, to not know that fact? Jesus, save me from idiots like that.
              • Algae5636@...
                Al J WWP Email Member and Baha i(Algae5636@aol.com ) Lol. Be that stuff as it may, taxation is not theft. And capitalism itself is a Ponzi scheme: It s
                Message 7 of 12 , Apr 20, 2013
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                  Al J WWP Email Member and Baha'i(Algae5636@... ) Lol.
                  Be that stuff as it may, taxation is not theft.

                  And capitalism itself is a Ponzi scheme: It's utterly dependent on sucking more and more people into its operation, and using up their future income to pay off its present participants.

                  :-)

                  advancedstudiesca@... WWP Member AudioUnlawful ... I'm detecting a pattern with you. When there isn't an emotional response and there is (obviously) no logical point to your belief ... you change the subject to something that might produce an emotional response. As a debater ... you stink. As a logical and reasonable person ... you show NO such dimension.

                  The Tax Laws change every year ... designed by liberals to jerk people around and allot favors to those special interests that back their power. It is a Chicago-style protection scheme setup by our "citizen legislators"; who have morphed into professional politicians. Social Security is a Ponzi Scheme ... and it is just beginning to collapse with the Baby Boomers sucking the system dry. Medicare/Medicaid are socialist tools that are corrupt, inefficient and cost hundreds of billions of dollars more per year for America's health care. Obama, Reid and Pelosi didn't solve any of the structural problems of our national healthcare ... they just consolidated it and piled it on!

                  Progressive, leftist policies are caused the American dream to spin out of control ... and we're spiraling (as a country) into the abyss of history. We must stop Obama and the Democrats from this ultimate end ... at any cost.

                  Levon Christner (Mema) WWP Email Member (Num1Mema@...) The only television network that is funded by tax dollars is Public Television and the last time I checked, they were a liberal voice piece! They fired Juan Williams because he appears on Fox and he is a huge supporter of Barack! But you have to support liberal causes to be carried by them!


                  Bill Stanley WWP Poster (bill.stanley@...)\ AudioLaw is an idiot, FOX or other news outlets ARE NOT subsidized by tax dollars, in fact they actually PAY for the right to use the airwaves, broadband, and frequencies they use. Who and what the hell IS miss AudioLaw anyway, to not know that fact? Jesus, save me from idiots like that.
                • Ben Joseph
                  Ben Joseph (rkelly_pleasedontpeeonme@yahoo.com) Dear Algae, You wrote:   And capitalism itself is a Ponzi scheme: It s utterly dependent on sucking more and
                  Message 8 of 12 , Apr 30, 2013
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                    Ben Joseph (rkelly_pleasedontpeeonme@...) Dear Algae,



                    You wrote:  "And capitalism itself is a Ponzi scheme: It's utterly dependent on sucking more and more people into its operation, and using up their future income to pay off its present participants."



                    Me:  I don't follow.  How is that, exactly?

                    Capitalism isn't a ponzi scheme.  It's just very volatile in its purest form.  Fire isn't evil, but it can be unforgiving.

                    Free the markets up to the most open trade we can get and strengthen the security net.  Easy as pie.

                    Sincerely,

                    Ben

                    Al J WWP Email Member and Baha'i(Algae5636@... ) Lol.
                    Be that stuff as it may, taxation is not theft.

                    And capitalism itself is a Ponzi scheme: It's utterly dependent on sucking more and more people into its operation, and using up their future income to pay off its present participants.

                    :-)

                    advancedstudiesca@... WWP Member AudioUnlawful ... I'm detecting a pattern with you. When there isn't an emotional response and there is (obviously) no logical point to your belief ... you change the subject to something that might produce an emotional response. As a debater ... you stink. As a logical and reasonable person ... you show NO such dimension.

                    The Tax Laws change every year ... designed by liberals to jerk people around and allot favors to those special interests that back their power. It is a Chicago-style protection scheme setup by our "citizen legislators"; who have morphed into professional politicians. Social Security is a Ponzi Scheme ... and it is just beginning to collapse with the Baby Boomers sucking the system dry. Medicare/Medicaid are socialist tools that are corrupt, inefficient and cost hundreds of billions of dollars more per year for America's health care. Obama, Reid and Pelosi didn't solve any of the structural problems of our national healthcare ... they just consolidated it and piled it on!

                    Progressive, leftist policies are caused the American dream to spin out of control ... and we're spiraling (as a country) into the abyss of history. We must stop Obama and the Democrats from this ultimate end ... at any cost.

                    Levon Christner (Mema) WWP Email Member (Num1Mema@...) The only television network that is funded by tax dollars is Public Television and the last time I checked, they were a liberal voice piece! They fired Juan Williams because he appears on Fox and he is a huge supporter of Barack! But you have to support liberal causes to be carried by them!
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