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  • John Schmidt
    Jun 10, 2006
      Thanks for sending me your email. Here is a copy of a
      "private" exchange I had with nicole:
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      Nicole-

      Thanks for contacting me. I have been busy lately
      learning about the actions of estrogen in the brain,
      but I generally enjoy a chance to "get philosophical".

      About medical school: My advice is to identify the
      aspect of medicine that you are most interested in and
      become very intimate with it. Seek out people who
      share your special interest(s).

      "an intrinsic biologically hard-wired process that
      allows epistemological rules to exist"

      I wonder if you have ever read any of the work of
      Gerald Edelman? He has made a serious effort to
      formulate a theory of how conventional biological
      proceses can account for our abilty to understand the
      world we live in.

      I have also been heavily influenced by Dan Dennett. He
      has done some masterful work that aims to slip a
      scientific foundation under some of the crumbly
      castles of philosophy. Dennett comes at this task from
      the direction of philosophy, Edelman has come from the
      direction of science, but they both have done good
      work to bring some fundamental philosophical questions
      into alignment with modern science.

      I have no objection to making an analytic-synthetic
      division. It leads to some interesting questions about
      rules, reasoning and logic and their relationship to
      human knowledge in general. A serious problem for
      philosophy is that it has tried to deal with these
      issues while being cut off from two important sources
      of information:

      1) the details of how our biological brains function
      to store memories, make learning possible, and provide
      us with a "virtual reality" model of the world we live
      in.

      2) an understanding of how it would be possible to
      make a non-biological machine that could understand
      and talk about the world in much the same way that
      people do.

      I suspect that it will be possible for humans to both
      understand in detail how a brain makes a mind and how
      to make machines with minds. When we have figured
      these things out, many of the great philosophical
      questions will have been answered.

      I'm not saying that this will be easy. In fact, I
      think that we are going to have to make heavy use of
      mechanical "thinking aids" in order to make sense of
      the complexities of the brain. I also think we are
      going to have to make heavy use of what we can learn
      about brain memory mechanisms in order to make
      increasingly useful and "intelligent" machines.

      When we get done, I suspect that traditional
      philosophical ideas about epistemology will seem as
      quaint as ideas like a crystaline sphere with stars
      attached to it.

      I wanted to mention that I do think Kant was correct
      about us having certain kinds of knowledge
      "hard-wired" into us....correct in the sense that the
      general structure of the human brain is genetically
      determined and that structure predisposes us to think
      in certain ways. Our ability to combine several simple
      analytic relationships and in so doing produce more
      complex synthetic conceptual understandings is one of
      those "hard-wired" predispositions. I think the theory
      provided by Edelman provides a good outline of how the
      human brain can climb from the analytic to the
      synthetic, but neurobiologists are still working out
      the details.

      -John Schmidt

      --- nicole johnson <reverendlovejoy75@...>
      wrote:

      > hola schmidt:
      >
      > introductions: i've been recently conversing with
      > parr about wittgenstein via email and he suggested i
      > write you due to your extensive knowledge in biology
      > [a semi-familiar subject to me] and philosophy. i
      > have a vested interest in understanding biology
      > since i plan on attending medical school but my
      > pursuit of philosophy, though haphazard and wayward,
      > is a kindling of an intellectual flame. if you have
      > a spare moment and feel compelled to answer i have a
      > question for you. i hope this email isn't too
      > intrusive.
      >
      > talk against the logical positivist: if quine has
      > suggested that there really is no distinction in the
      > analytic-synthetic divide in language would you
      > agree or disagree with this idea? if you do agree
      > that the analytic-synthetic divide does not exist
      > then is there an intrinsic biologically hard-wired
      > process that allows epistemological rules to exist
      > on the basic level of appearance? ugghh. rather
      > complicated but i hope this was clear.
      >
      > anyway, it's a start and maybe you'll express some
      > other points that you have in mind concerning this
      > question. i hope you will be able to offer some
      > advice.
      >
      > thanks,
      > johnson
      >
      > p.s. got any tips on getting into medical school?

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