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  • docmirror
    I just got a copy of Vista RC1 at a trade show. I m planning to install on one of my HP Pavilion with a Turion 64. I ve backed up all my files but I have two
    Message 1 of 10 , Nov 1, 2006
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      I just got a copy of Vista RC1 at a trade show. I'm planning to
      install on one of my HP Pavilion with a Turion 64. I've backed up all
      my files but I have two questions:

      1 Once installed, is there a backout plan to return to XP without
      using my PC Recovery DVDs?(loss of all files and custom programs)

      2 After install, it says "product activation is required within 14
      days". How tightly coupled is MS into my activation? I don't want them
      snooping around on a private workstation.

      Thanks folks, any other gotchas would be appreciated.

      Doc
    • Wagner, C. Marc
      1) No, you cannot UNINSTALL Vista. 2) MS is not snooping, but activation WILL be required by the deadline. 3) Try to get a copy of RC2, it s more stable. C.
      Message 2 of 10 , Nov 2, 2006
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        1) No, you cannot UNINSTALL Vista.

        2) MS is not snooping, but activation WILL be required by the deadline.

        3) Try to get a copy of RC2, it's more stable.

        C. MARC WAGNER
        Services Development Specialist
        UITS, Student Technology Centers
        Indiana University, Bloomington

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        ________________________________

        From: Windows_Vista_operating_system@yahoogroups.com
        [mailto:Windows_Vista_operating_system@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
        docmirror
        Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 1:43 AM
        To: Windows_Vista_operating_system@yahoogroups.com
        Subject: [Vista] Back out plan



        I just got a copy of Vista RC1 at a trade show. I'm planning to
        install on one of my HP Pavilion with a Turion 64. I've backed up all
        my files but I have two questions:

        1 Once installed, is there a backout plan to return to XP without
        using my PC Recovery DVDs?(loss of all files and custom programs)

        2 After install, it says "product activation is required within 14
        days". How tightly coupled is MS into my activation? I don't want them
        snooping around on a private workstation.

        Thanks folks, any other gotchas would be appreciated.

        Doc






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      • renegade600
        ... sorry but you are out of luck. You will have to reformat and reinstall. As far as activation, if you dont want to activate, dont use it. Otherwise you
        Message 3 of 10 , Nov 2, 2006
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          --- In Windows_Vista_operating_system@yahoogroups.com, "docmirror"
          <docmirror@...> wrote:
          >
          > I just got a copy of Vista RC1 at a trade show. I'm planning to
          > install on one of my HP Pavilion with a Turion 64. I've backed up all
          > my files but I have two questions:
          >
          > 1 Once installed, is there a backout plan to return to XP without
          > using my PC Recovery DVDs?(loss of all files and custom programs)
          >
          > 2 After install, it says "product activation is required within 14
          > days". How tightly coupled is MS into my activation? I don't want them
          > snooping around on a private workstation.
          >
          > Thanks folks, any other gotchas would be appreciated.
          >
          > Doc
          >


          sorry but you are out of luck. You will have to reformat and
          reinstall. As far as activation, if you dont want to activate, dont
          use it. Otherwise you are in violation of microsoft licensing
          agreement that you agreed to when you installed it.
        • Wagner, C. Marc
          For RC1 and later, you CAN install Vista without entering an Activation Code. All you need to do is leave the activation code BLANK. By doing so, you will be
          Message 4 of 10 , Nov 2, 2006
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            For RC1 and later, you CAN install Vista without entering an Activation
            Code. All you need to do is leave the activation code BLANK. By doing
            so, you will be permitted to install any version of Vista to look at.
            However, you will be forced to enter the activation code at some point
            to continue to use Vista. Failure to do so at that point will leave you
            with a crippled installation.

            C. MARC WAGNER
            Services Development Specialist
            UITS, Student Technology Centers
            Indiana University, Bloomington

            ________________________________

            From: Windows_Vista_operating_system@yahoogroups.com
            [mailto:Windows_Vista_operating_system@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
            renegade600
            Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 11:40 AM
            To: Windows_Vista_operating_system@yahoogroups.com
            Subject: [Vista] Re: Back out plan



            --- In Windows_Vista_operating_system@yahoogroups.com
            <mailto:Windows_Vista_operating_system%40yahoogroups.com> , "docmirror"
            <docmirror@...> wrote:
            >
            > I just got a copy of Vista RC1 at a trade show. I'm planning to
            > install on one of my HP Pavilion with a Turion 64. I've backed up all
            > my files but I have two questions:
            >
            > 1 Once installed, is there a backout plan to return to XP without
            > using my PC Recovery DVDs?(loss of all files and custom programs)
            >
            > 2 After install, it says "product activation is required within 14
            > days". How tightly coupled is MS into my activation? I don't want them
            > snooping around on a private workstation.
            >
            > Thanks folks, any other gotchas would be appreciated.
            >
            > Doc
            >

            sorry but you are out of luck. You will have to reformat and
            reinstall. As far as activation, if you dont want to activate, dont
            use it. Otherwise you are in violation of microsoft licensing
            agreement that you agreed to when you installed it.






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          • docmirror
            Thanks folks, this is about what I expected. Looks like I ve got to do the dual partition thing again, what a hassle. I appreciate the info. Doc ... Activation
            Message 5 of 10 , Nov 2, 2006
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              Thanks folks, this is about what I expected. Looks like I've got to
              do the dual partition thing again, what a hassle. I appreciate the
              info.

              Doc


              --- In Windows_Vista_operating_system@yahoogroups.com, "Wagner, C.
              Marc" <mwagner@...> wrote:
              >
              > For RC1 and later, you CAN install Vista without entering an
              Activation
              > Code. All you need to do is leave the activation code BLANK. By
              doing
              > so, you will be permitted to install any version of Vista to look
              at.
              > However, you will be forced to enter the activation code at some
              point
              > to continue to use Vista. Failure to do so at that point will
              leave you
              > with a crippled installation.
              >
              > C. MARC WAGNER
              > Services Development Specialist
              > UITS, Student Technology Centers
              > Indiana University, Bloomington
              >
              > ________________________________
              >
              > From: Windows_Vista_operating_system@yahoogroups.com
              > [mailto:Windows_Vista_operating_system@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
              > renegade600
              > Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 11:40 AM
              > To: Windows_Vista_operating_system@yahoogroups.com
              > Subject: [Vista] Re: Back out plan
              >
              >
              >
              > --- In Windows_Vista_operating_system@yahoogroups.com
              > <mailto:Windows_Vista_operating_system%
              40yahoogroups.com> , "docmirror"
              > <docmirror@> wrote:
              > >
              > > I just got a copy of Vista RC1 at a trade show. I'm planning to
              > > install on one of my HP Pavilion with a Turion 64. I've backed up
              all
              > > my files but I have two questions:
              > >
              > > 1 Once installed, is there a backout plan to return to XP without
              > > using my PC Recovery DVDs?(loss of all files and custom programs)
              > >
              > > 2 After install, it says "product activation is required within 14
              > > days". How tightly coupled is MS into my activation? I don't want
              them
              > > snooping around on a private workstation.
              > >
              > > Thanks folks, any other gotchas would be appreciated.
              > >
              > > Doc
              > >
              >
              > sorry but you are out of luck. You will have to reformat and
              > reinstall. As far as activation, if you dont want to activate, dont
              > use it. Otherwise you are in violation of microsoft licensing
              > agreement that you agreed to when you installed it.
              >
              >
              >
              >
              >
              >
              > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
              >
            • John.Koehler
              If you have an extra hard drive you might consider cloaning your current xp then installing vista on top of that which might save your problems in the future.
              Message 6 of 10 , Nov 3, 2006
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                If you have an extra hard drive you might consider
                cloaning your current xp then installing vista on top
                of that which might save your problems in the future.
                You would then have to physically switch hard drives
                to switch operating systems.

                Just a thought that I wanted to share with you.

                ;-)


                --- docmirror <docmirror@...> wrote:

                > Thanks folks, this is about what I expected. Looks
                > like I've got to
                > do the dual partition thing again, what a hassle. I
                > appreciate the
                > info.
                >
                > Doc
                >
                >
                > --- In
                > Windows_Vista_operating_system@yahoogroups.com,
                > "Wagner, C.
                > Marc" <mwagner@...> wrote:
                > >
                > > For RC1 and later, you CAN install Vista without
                > entering an
                > Activation
                > > Code. All you need to do is leave the activation
                > code BLANK. By
                > doing
                > > so, you will be permitted to install any version
                > of Vista to look
                > at.
                > > However, you will be forced to enter the
                > activation code at some
                > point
                > > to continue to use Vista. Failure to do so at
                > that point will
                > leave you
                > > with a crippled installation.
                > >
                > > C. MARC WAGNER
                > > Services Development Specialist
                > > UITS, Student Technology Centers
                > > Indiana University, Bloomington
                > >
                > > ________________________________
                > >
                > > From:
                > Windows_Vista_operating_system@yahoogroups.com
                > >
                >
                [mailto:Windows_Vista_operating_system@yahoogroups.com]
                > On Behalf Of
                > > renegade600
                > > Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 11:40 AM
                > > To: Windows_Vista_operating_system@yahoogroups.com
                > > Subject: [Vista] Re: Back out plan
                > >
                > >
                > >
                > > --- In
                > Windows_Vista_operating_system@yahoogroups.com
                > > <mailto:Windows_Vista_operating_system%
                > 40yahoogroups.com> , "docmirror"
                > > <docmirror@> wrote:
                > > >
                > > > I just got a copy of Vista RC1 at a trade show.
                > I'm planning to
                > > > install on one of my HP Pavilion with a Turion
                > 64. I've backed up
                > all
                > > > my files but I have two questions:
                > > >
                > > > 1 Once installed, is there a backout plan to
                > return to XP without
                > > > using my PC Recovery DVDs?(loss of all files and
                > custom programs)
                > > >
                > > > 2 After install, it says "product activation is
                > required within 14
                > > > days". How tightly coupled is MS into my
                > activation? I don't want
                > them
                > > > snooping around on a private workstation.
                > > >
                > > > Thanks folks, any other gotchas would be
                > appreciated.
                > > >
                > > > Doc
                > > >
                > >
                > > sorry but you are out of luck. You will have to
                > reformat and
                > > reinstall. As far as activation, if you dont want
                > to activate, dont
                > > use it. Otherwise you are in violation of
                > microsoft licensing
                > > agreement that you agreed to when you installed
                > it.
                > >
                > >
                > >
                > >
                > >
                > >
                > > [Non-text portions of this message have been
                > removed]
                > >
                >
                >
                >
                >
                >




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              • renegade600
                ... why would you have to physically switch harddrives? you can still set it up as a dual boot.
                Message 7 of 10 , Nov 3, 2006
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                  --- In Windows_Vista_operating_system@yahoogroups.com, "John.Koehler"
                  <johnkoehler1234@...> wrote:
                  >
                  > If you have an extra hard drive you might consider
                  > cloaning your current xp then installing vista on top
                  > of that which might save your problems in the future.
                  > You would then have to physically switch hard drives
                  > to switch operating systems.
                  >
                  > Just a thought that I wanted to share with you.
                  >

                  why would you have to physically switch harddrives? you can still set
                  it up as a dual boot.
                • John.Koehler
                  Just as a precaution to totally protect your XP production system while you are playing around with Vista. ...
                  Message 8 of 10 , Nov 3, 2006
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                    Just as a precaution to totally protect your XP
                    production system while you are playing around with
                    Vista.

                    --- renegade600 <renegade600@...> wrote:

                    > --- In
                    > Windows_Vista_operating_system@yahoogroups.com,
                    > "John.Koehler"
                    > <johnkoehler1234@...> wrote:
                    > >
                    > > If you have an extra hard drive you might consider
                    > > cloaning your current xp then installing vista on
                    > top
                    > > of that which might save your problems in the
                    > future.
                    > > You would then have to physically switch hard
                    > drives
                    > > to switch operating systems.
                    > >
                    > > Just a thought that I wanted to share with you.
                    > >
                    >
                    > why would you have to physically switch harddrives?
                    > you can still set
                    > it up as a dual boot.
                    >
                    >
                    >




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                  • Chris Rosing
                    By my recommendation is if you fear messing up ur XP machine and don t got a spare, get a copy of Virutal PC. you can download a 45 day trial for free from
                    Message 9 of 10 , Nov 3, 2006
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                      By my recommendation is if you fear messing up ur XP machine and don't got a spare, get a copy of Virutal PC. you can download a 45 day trial for free from microsoft. keep in mind though it is going to share ur ram, and HD space, and with any new OS it is a resource hog compared to the preveious version.

                      Chris


                      ----- Original Message ----
                      From: John.Koehler <johnkoehler1234@...>
                      To: Windows_Vista_operating_system@yahoogroups.com
                      Sent: Friday, November 3, 2006 12:22:04 PM
                      Subject: Re: [Vista] Re: Back out plan

                      Just as a precaution to totally protect your XP
                      production system while you are playing around with
                      Vista.

                      --- renegade600 <renegade600@ gmail.com> wrote:

                      > --- In
                      > Windows_Vista_ operating_ system@yahoogrou ps.com,
                      > "John.Koehler"
                      > <johnkoehler1234@ ...> wrote:
                      > >
                      > > If you have an extra hard drive you might consider
                      > > cloaning your current xp then installing vista on
                      > top
                      > > of that which might save your problems in the
                      > future.
                      > > You would then have to physically switch hard
                      > drives
                      > > to switch operating systems.
                      > >
                      > > Just a thought that I wanted to share with you.
                      > >
                      >
                      > why would you have to physically switch harddrives?
                      > you can still set
                      > it up as a dual boot.
                      >
                      >
                      >

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                    • renegade600
                      I certainly would not recommend this for the general user because, IMO, you stand a lot better chance of damaging the drives than vista messing up your xp
                      Message 10 of 10 , Nov 4, 2006
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                        I certainly would not recommend this for the general user because,
                        IMO, you stand a lot better chance of damaging the drives than vista
                        messing up your xp partition/drive.

                        --- In Windows_Vista_operating_system@yahoogroups.com, "John.Koehler"
                        <johnkoehler1234@...> wrote:
                        >
                        > Just as a precaution to totally protect your XP
                        > production system while you are playing around with
                        > Vista.
                        >
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