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1891Re: Almost no breeding

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  • Beth
    Jan 15, 2013
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      I am not a moderator, but as your message has not been publicly answered in over a week, I think you would be welcome in VHEMT.

      MOST of the problems have been caused by the fact that the life expectancy has gone up enormously over the past 150 years or so. In 1900, the average life expectancy was to live to be 50 yeas old. Now, in the US, the life expectancy is around 78 years old, while in other Western countries life expectancy is in the mid-80s. The infant and maternal mortality rate has plummeted in that time also. So, there are more of the children living to be adults, more living generations of people, and unless the birth rate goes down by a similar amount, the number of people increases... and expands exponentially.

      If life expectancy were greatly increased, as you suggest, that would compound the problem UNLESS people stopped having babies. Human beings are adapted to having hard lives of 35 years with a high infant and maternal mortality rate... and we are the offspring that survived the lifestyle of our ancestors up until the past 100-150 years. So, people have this desire to procreate and have enough children that at least one or two will grow up.... but we have not yet adapted to the changed conditions that won't support this very high and growing population.

      I do know that nature tends to correct itself. When other populations expand rapidly because of a changed condition, they do so up to a point where they make their (localized) environment unlivable, and then die back or out in that given area. Whether this will be by disease, war, or the other threat that human ingenuity alone could create - global climate change, or something else, remains to be seen.

      The question is whether we're going to stop voluntarily or by force (or nature)? I think it's too late to stop the problems caused by climate change and by improved means of spreading deadly diseases.

      The more I see, the more glad I am that I have not procreated. The world I see coming out of this situation in just a couple more decades is not one I would wish upon an enemy, much less a child I love. I've protected all of my children from living this horror by failing to conceive them.


      --- In Why_breed@yahoogroups.com, "joseph2u4us" wrote:
      > Hi everyone, I just joined up. I would have joined the main, big group but didn't actually meet the requirement for wanting human extinction.
      > I don't really want much or any breeding either.
      > Here is how that would work. You might have guessed that I want the people here to have their lifespans greatly extended. I think there is enough understanding of stem cells and genetics to do that within a decade, with enough resolve. We should put oodles of money into this because by reversing agedness from a 70 effective age to a 30 efa, most common degenerative diseases could be reversed or cured, too.
      > Thanks,
      > Joe
      > P.S. Now that I've clarified my views, if you could, let me know if i might be welcome in the main group.
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