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4474Re: Why VHEMT? Re: Time magazine catches on to the childfree movement, misses the green angle

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  • Alan Thomas
    Aug 13, 2013
      Indeed I am a product of public schools; yet somehow I managed a perfect
      score on my SATs regardless. Probably did not hurt that I had a father and
      mother with anthropology (Stanford) and sociology (UNC-CH) Ph.D.s. I am
      also married to a sociologist, and am familiar with the works you cite.
      However, it remains true that socialisation (and even its antagonist,
      sociobiology or EvPsych) only go so far in shaping individual behaviour.
      There ARE high income people who live frugally. My grandfather was just
      such a person: his one room apartment, taped up glasses, and threadbare
      clothing gave no hint that his net worth made him a "millionaire" in
      numerical terms if not in lifestyle.

      I too am frugal but at a different level. Our family's income is below the
      US median, but we still have some nice electronics and such (smartphones,
      multiple iPads and iPod Touches, Google Nexus, Kindle Fire HD) without
      using credit cards because we carefully budget our money and do not attempt
      to own a vehicle.

      Point is, not everyone buys into the dominant paradigm, and thus choices,
      even those made by the majority, are still choices and not requirements.
      Strange that I would have to tell a VEHMTist this: is that not how you
      feel about procreation?

      On Tuesday, August 13, 2013, ES wrote:

      > **
      > OK, so perhaps that was unkind. On reflection, you are probably a product
      > of the USA's public school system, and that should not be held against you,
      > however, allow me to recommend some remedial study.
      > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conspicuous_consumption
      > Pay attention to the bibliography read some of those books and articles.
      > I highly recommend you download Veblen's Theory of the Leisure class from
      > the Gutenberg project web site. http://www.gutenberg.org/
      > Another must read for this topic is J.K. Galbraith's Affluent Society
      > (try abes books)
      > http://www.abebooks.com/servlet/SearchResults?an=Galbraith&sts=t&tn=Affluent+Society
      > --- In Why_VHEMT@yahoogroups.com <javascript:_e({}, 'cvml',
      > 'Why_VHEMT%40yahoogroups.com');>, "ES" <everiman@...> wrote:
      > >
      > > I am sorry but I have to ask, no offense intended, but exactly how far
      > is your head buried up your rectum?
      > >
      > >
      > > > I hope this is said tongue in cheek. There is nothing preventing rich
      > > > people from living the same way I do, and simply salting most of their
      > > > money away. Indeed, some thrifty types do just that.
      > >

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