7832Re: [Weta-Trimarans] Standing rigging, shrouds, side stays
- Aug 22, 2014As a former dealer - I can throw in my 2¢Of the 10 boats under my care (!) we have had three drop the rig, one was because of the failure of the knot on the strop on the bow, and the second and third were pad eye failures. Remarkably - no significant damage on any of the events.Observations - always check the condition of the strop on the bow each time you sail.If the pad eyes look discoloured - especially on the older welded type it may be time to consider changing them. This can range from 20 minutes to many hours to do, as there are at least four configurations, and Murphy had a hand in some of the assembly process.If you have the quick release adjuster - surgically remove the quick release pin, replace it with a clevis pin and ring. It does not need to be quick release!! Use plenty of tape to keep it standing up - that will eliminate kinking during rig stepping.Stays - again a few slightly different materials and setup above the years. As already mentioned below - they do not last forever, and 4 years is probably a reasonable life expectancy. The replacement cost vs potential damage / risk of losing the rig (at the worst possible time) makes this a no-brainer.As for sources - either Weta, or any rigging shop. As for class legality - I regard these as safety equipment, and if anyone wants to protest me on shroud diameter, then so be it!!I have gone one step up with my shrouds - a larger diameter (3mm- I think), I have a t handle (1m up from the ama), and I have replaced the eye loop with a forged fitting - and added a new adjuster. This setup adds a couple of ounces, but is way more secure and strong.Avoid kinks in your stays - helpful assistance often results in kinks - not good. The thicker SS shrouds are much less likely to kink. Keep a close eye on the swayed ends for any sign of stray wires escaping, or corrosion.Even if you are happy with your current stays - get a spare set now!And finally - replace ALL the stainless screws on the mast, the tiller, the cleats, (not the rudder mounting unless really corroded - too difficult!), as the material in some of the original boats was not good. Be gentle too- the mast cleat screws are directly into the carbon - no power tools please !!And replace the strop on the bow annually - and if you have the two stainless rings arrangement - get rid if it and replace with a strop !!!Much text for 2¢ !!Robert633 DXB
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On 23 Aug 2014, at 01:32, "Robert Shirley wetasocal@... [Weta-Trimarans]" <Weta-Trimarans@yahoogroups.com> wrote:The original pad-eye was welded. Newer Wetas, i.e. PPS boats #738 & 739 come with forged, stainless steel padeyes (Weta calls them saddles). IIRC, I went with the RF 1054 from West Marine or Beacon Marine.Bob Shirley
Weta #147, Empress
Ventura CA.From: "'vylewind@...' vylewind@... [Weta-Trimarans]" <Weta-Trimarans@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, August 22, 2014 2:22 PM
Subject: Re: [Weta-Trimarans] Standing rigging, shrouds, side stays
Robert Shirley, where did you purchase the pad eye replacement?
- Have you ever encountered similar situation or even complete stay failure?Yes! Last March outside of KH my mast came down after several strands parted with a loud clang.
- Any mistake I may have made when rigging?Maybe the tangs at the mast weren't quite right, but the stays may have started to fail from old age. Mine were 5.5 years old when one failed.
- What is your best source for ordering such parts?I got one of the last sets that Davo had. But a local rigger should be able to duplicate your existing shroud or even make a new, stronger set.
- Are there other parts I should particularly be checking?Yes, the pad eyes where the stays attach to the ama have also been upgraded since your boat was built. My stardboard padeye failed on July 11. Weta supplied me with detailed instructions regarding how to replace them.
Thanks in advance,
kikaroo #352Hi everyone, I have just purchased a used weta, and have slowly been replacing parts as they fail or look like they may be failing. Sailing has been amazing, particularly above 10 knots :)
My question is regarding your experience with the side stays and standing rigging in general. The boat I purchased is four years old, and was kept outside, and I had noticed some slight rust on the shrouds but thought that 4 years was not too bad for shrouds. Last weekend as I was sailing off L.A's coast in the great swell, I heard a loooud "Klang" sound, looked around a little worried but nothing seemed to have moved, and I was still moving forward and alive so all good, but kept wondering what it was.
After sailing and taking the boat apart and checking everything as I usually do, I finally noticed that two thin cables part of the port stay had failed, nicely giving me enough to sail back home. I just ordered a new set, but am stuck this weekend as the shrouds are not there yet :(
- Have you ever encountered similar situation or even complete stay failure?
- Any mistake I may have made when rigging?
- What is your best source for ordering such parts?
- Are there other parts I should particularly be checking?
Thanks in advance,
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