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  • T Behler
    Hi, all. Here s a quick note from Mike Heathfield of the Grand Rapids NWS office, confirming what I said earlier about the new NWS storm-based warning system
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      Hi, all.

      Here's a quick note from Mike Heathfield of the Grand Rapids NWS office,
      confirming what I said earlier about the new NWS storm-based warning system
      not affecting the functioning of our current public alert radios.

      73 from Tom Behler: KB8TYJ, Mecosta County EC/RO


      ----- Original Message -----
      From: "mike.heathfield" <Mike.Heathfield@...>
      To: "T Behler" <tbehler@...>
      Cc: "larry st. George" <larry.stgeorge@...>; "Alain Svilpe"
      <svilpea@...>; "Taranko, Wally" <wtaranko@...>; "Bill
      Smith" <bsmith@...>; "Doug Brumm" <dbrumm@...>; "Dan Dowdy"
      <ddowdy@...>; "Dan Needham" <needham@...>;
      <foote@...>; "Gus Glass" <gglass@...>; "Harry Hahn"
      <kc8sds@...>; "hulbert" <hulbert@...>; "Jerry McCoy"
      <jmccoy@...>; "Jim Green" <jgreen@...>;
      <jmzoss@...-creek.mi.us>; "JOE PULLEN" <jpullen@...>; "Gary
      Scotko" <gszotko@...-rapids.mi.us>; "lehmans"
      <lehmans@...>; "Lieutenants Operations"
      <OperationsLts@...>; "Lori wHornbeck" <hornbecl@...>;
      "Lowell Sheely" <ham557@...>; "Mark Tans" <mtans@...>; "Mark
      Walton" <Mark.Walton@...>; "Mike Heathfield"
      <Mike.Heathfield@...>; "Marc Griffis" <mgriffis@...>;
      <darrel.hogston@...>; <nischanec@...>; <nk8x@...>;
      "Paul Reissman" <wd8mwt@...>; <perez@...>; "petel"
      <petel@...>; "richard elushik" <richarde_97@...>; "Sam
      Nabkey - K8SN" <snabkey@...>; "stoutda" <stoutda@...>;
      "Tom Behler" <tbehler@...>; "Tom VanderMel" <kb8vee@...>;
      <wesleym@...>; <wheelerro@...>; "Paul Baker"
      <prbake@...>; "scott corbin" <scorbin@...>; "steve
      rand" <srand@...>; "Bll Larson" <blarson@...>;
      "Sue Barthels" <sue.barthels@...>; "Tom Hillen"
      <Tom.Hillen@...>; "jim yarger" <jyarger@...>; "Jeff
      Nawrot" <jeffnawrot@...>; "Ernest Ostuno" <Ernest.Ostuno@...>;
      "Deater, Tim" <tdeater@...>; "George Wetzel"
      <George.Wetzel@...>; "Charlies Chapman" <chappy@...>; "Jack
      Stewart" <Jack.Stewart@...>; "Dana Wolverton"
      <wolvertd@...>; "Bill King" <wking@...>; "barry reber"
      <reberb@...>; "stephanie baker" <bakers@...>; "Tim
      Bair" <tim@...>; "Emermgmt" <Emermgmt@...>; "Karen &
      Jim" <jimandkaren@...>; "Doug DeVries"
      <psddevries@...>; "Russ kolski" <russ@...>; "aaron
      brown" <abrown@...>; "ronda oberlin"
      <roberlin@...>; "mark watkins" <osceolaemd@...>;
      <jimk8cop@...>; "Robert Hudson" <hudsonr@...>; "Don Tillitson"
      <wb8nus@...>; "Bill Gietzen" <wdg1709@...>; "Paul Odem"
      <rockyroster@...>; "Larry Utterback" <lutterback@...>;
      "Bill King" <wking@...>; "Carr, Chief Jim "
      <carrj@...>; "Tom Porritt" <n8yjt@...>; "Alice Noskey"
      <kc8zrp@...>; "Howe, Mark" <mhowe@...>; "Bethany Phelps"
      <phelpster813@...>; "john klaassen" <john_klaassen@...>;
      "Dave Dahl" <ddahl@...>; "Bill King" <wking@...>; "richard
      elushik" <richarde_97@...>; "rick norman" <rnorman@...>;
      "Mike McKay" <MichaelMcKay@...>; "Trent Atkins"
      <tatkins@...>
      Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2007 1:42 PM
      Subject: Re: INFO:Storm Based Warnings/County Partitions-WCM-


      > Tom,
      > The Storm Based Warnings will not affect the functioning of the NOAA All
      > Hazards Weather Radios. We had planned to split our counties into parts
      > which would have had an impact no the NOAA Radios but found out recently
      > that there is no National software that supports splitting the counties
      > into parts.
      > Mike
      >
      > T Behler wrote:
      >> Mike:
      >>
      >> I assume that our current public alert radios based on SAME code
      >> technology will still work with the new system?
      >>
      >> I know I've asked you this question before, but am just wondering if
      >> you have any more updated information on that issue.
      >>
      >> Thanks, and 73 from Tom Behler: KB8TYJ, Mecosta County EC/RO
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "mike.heathfield"
      >> <Mike.Heathfield@...>
      >> To: "larry st. George" <larry.stgeorge@...>; "Alain Svilpe"
      >> <svilpea@...>; "Taranko, Wally" <wtaranko@...>; "Bill
      >> Smith" <bsmith@...>; "Doug Brumm" <dbrumm@...>; "Dan
      >> Dowdy" <ddowdy@...>; "Dan Needham"
      >> <needham@...>; <foote@...>; "Gus Glass"
      >> <gglass@...>; "Harry Hahn" <kc8sds@...>; "hulbert"
      >> <hulbert@...>; "Jerry McCoy"
      >> <jmccoy@...>; "Jim Green" <jgreen@...>;
      >> <jmzoss@...-creek.mi.us>; "JOE PULLEN" <jpullen@...>;
      >> "Gary Scotko" <gszotko@...-rapids.mi.us>; "lehmans"
      >> <lehmans@...>; "Lieutenants Operations"
      >> <OperationsLts@...>; "Lori wHornbeck"
      >> <hornbecl@...>; "Lowell Sheely" <ham557@...>; "Mark
      >> Tans" <mtans@...>; "Mark Walton" <Mark.Walton@...>;
      >> "Mike Heathfield" <Mike.Heathfield@...>; "Marc Griffis"
      >> <mgriffis@...>; <darrel.hogston@...>;
      >> <nischanec@...>; <nk8x@...>; "Paul Reissman"
      >> <wd8mwt@...>; <perez@...>; "petel"
      >> <petel@...>; "richard elushik" <richarde_97@...>;
      >> "Sam Nabkey - K8SN" <snabkey@...>; "stoutda"
      >> <stoutda@...>; "Tom Behler" <tbehler@...>; "Tom
      >> VanderMel" <kb8vee@...>; <wesleym@...>;
      >> <wheelerro@...>; "Paul Baker" <prbake@...>;
      >> "scott corbin" <scorbin@...>; "steve rand"
      >> <srand@...>; "Bll Larson" <blarson@...>;
      >> "Sue Barthels" <sue.barthels@...>; "Tom Hillen"
      >> <Tom.Hillen@...>; "jim yarger" <jyarger@...>;
      >> "Jeff Nawrot" <jeffnawrot@...>; "Ernest Ostuno"
      >> <Ernest.Ostuno@...>; "Deater, Tim" <tdeater@...>; "George
      >> Wetzel" <George.Wetzel@...>; "Charlies Chapman"
      >> <chappy@...>; "Jack Stewart" <Jack.Stewart@...>;
      >> "Dana Wolverton" <wolvertd@...>; "Bill King"
      >> <wking@...>; "barry reber" <reberb@...>; "stephanie
      >> baker" <bakers@...>; "Tim Bair" <tim@...>;
      >> "Emermgmt" <Emermgmt@...>; "Karen & Jim"
      >> <jimandkaren@...>; "Doug DeVries"
      >> <psddevries@...>; "Russ kolski" <russ@...>;
      >> "aaron brown" <abrown@...>; "ronda oberlin"
      >> <roberlin@...>; "mark watkins" <osceolaemd@...>;
      >> <jimk8cop@...>; "Robert Hudson" <hudsonr@...>; "Don
      >> Tillitson" <wb8nus@...>; "Bill Gietzen"
      >> <wdg1709@...>; "Paul Odem" <rockyroster@...>; "Larry
      >> Utterback" <lutterback@...>; "Bill King"
      >> <wking@...>; "Carr, Chief Jim " <carrj@...>;
      >> "Tom Porritt" <n8yjt@...>; "Alice Noskey" <kc8zrp@...>;
      >> "Howe, Mark" <mhowe@...>; "Bethany Phelps"
      >> <phelpster813@...>; "john klaassen"
      >> <john_klaassen@...>; "Dave Dahl" <ddahl@...>; "Bill
      >> King" <wking@...>; "richard elushik"
      >> <richarde_97@...>; "rick norman" <rnorman@...>;
      >> "Mike McKay" <MichaelMcKay@...>; "Trent Atkins"
      >> <tatkins@...>
      >> Sent: Monday, September 24, 2007 1:58 PM
      >> Subject: INFO:Storm Based Warnings-WCM-
      >>
      >>
      >>> All,
      >>> I will be covering this topic at the Summit next month.
      >>> Mike
      >>>
      >>> -------- Original Message --------
      >>> Subject: [emwin-users] AP Story -- Looking for Comments
      >>> Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 20:34:36 +0000
      >>> From: jeff_silberberg <jsilberberg@...>
      >>> Reply-To: emwin-users@yahoogroups.com
      >>> To: emwin-users@yahoogroups.com
      >>>
      >>>
      >>>
      >>>
      >>> NWS Changes Severe Weather Alerts
      >>>
      >>> Sep 18 03:16 PM US/Eastern
      >>> By JAY REEVES
      >>> Associated Press Writer
      >>>
      >>> BIRMINGHAM, Ala. (AP) - The National Weather Service is revamping the
      >>> way it has issued severe weather warnings for decades with a new
      >>> system designed to mark a geographic bull's eye where a storm will
      >>> hit.
      >>>
      >>> The system, which goes into effect Oct. 1, switches from alerts based
      >>> on county lines to notices aimed at specific communities, weather
      >>> service officials said Tuesday. Using radar and computer modeling
      >>> programs, the system is meant to predict the moment a storm will hit
      >>> a community or even a certain crossroads.
      >>>
      >>> Known as storm-based warnings, the new alerts could reduce a warning
      >>> area from thousands of square miles to a few hundred square miles,
      >>> experts said.
      >>>
      >>> "A storm-based warning focuses on a storm itself and the geographic
      >>> area that might be affected by it," said Eli Jacks, a meteorologist
      >>> at weather service headquarters in suburban Washington. "We can
      >>> really reduce the number of people being warned by reducing that
      >>> geographic area."
      >>>
      >>> The new system will initially be limited to warnings for tornadoes,
      >>> severe thunderstorms, floods and marine hazards. Later, it will be
      >>> expanded to include other threats like extreme heat, Jacks said.
      >>>
      >>> Tornado forecasting began in the late 1940s, and the government
      >>> started issuing weather warnings in the 1950s based on a network of
      >>> storm spotters with radios and telephones. Warnings generally have
      >>> been issued on a county-by-county basis ever since.
      >>>
      >>> Under the new system, the weather service plans to issue warnings for
      >>> specific storms and alert people who might be in the path. On a radar
      >>> map, the warned areas appear as highlighted polygons rather than
      >>> entire counties; forecasters will refer to commonly known landmarks
      >>> like rivers and roads in written announcements.
      >>>
      >>> Officials say the system also will make it easier to send weather
      >>> warnings through cell phones and other handheld devices.
      >>>
      >>> Some weather experts are concerned that radar has its limits and a
      >>> fast-moving storm can change direction, suddenly taking aim at an
      >>> area not mentioned in the storm warning. But Jacks said the system
      >>> will be able to keep up with abrupt changes.
      >>>
      >>> A report by the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration
      >>> predicted the new system would save $100 million annually, mainly by
      >>> cutting back on unneeded business closings and the amount of time
      >>> people spend huddled in closets or basements during warnings.
      >>>
      >>> "I think that is a very conservative estimate. It could be
      >>> substantially more," said Daniel Sutter, who calculated the savings
      >>> and is an associate economics professor at the University of Texas-
      >>> Pan American.
      >>>
      >>> The new warnings have worked well during trials in Indiana, said Dave
      >>> Tucek, who coordinates severe weather warning in the agency's
      >>> Indianapolis office.
      >>>
      >>> "I think it has been a good system," said Tucek. "The idea behind
      >>> it ... is that there is no reason to warn the northern end of a
      >>> county about something that is in the southern end of a county."
      >>>
      >>> The president of the Alabama Skywarn Foundation, Brian Peters, said
      >>> the new system already is being used in some weather service
      >>> warnings, which name a county being placed under alert and then
      >>> specify a certain area that's particularly at risk.
      >>>
      >>> But, he said, highlighting too narrow an area for a warning could be
      >>> hazardous since storms can change direction, and radar has its
      >>> limits. An undetected tilt in a twister could send it toward an area
      >>> that was not under a warning if alert boxes are too small.
      >>>
      >>> "That's what worries me, giving people a false sense of security,"
      >>> said Peters, a meteorologist with WBMA-TV in Birmingham who
      >>> previously worked as the weather service's warning coordinator for
      >>> Alabama.
      >>>
      >>> Jacks said new warnings will be issued as storms move.
      >>>
      >>> "You can issue as many storm-based warnings as you need," he said.
      >>>
      >>>
      >>>
      >>>
      >>
      >>
      >
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