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Re: [WestMichiganHams] Re: FCC Cites Amateur

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  • Andrew Young
    OR if you want to sound like Yoda, try N8ARY, this is. ... From: k8mhz@k8mhz.com To: WestMichiganHams@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 5:19
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      OR if you want to sound like Yoda, try "N8ARY, this is."
       
       
      ----- Original Message -----
      From: k8mhz@...
      Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 5:19 PM
      Subject: Re: [WestMichiganHams] Re: FCC Cites Amateur

      Just to nit pick a little....
       
      [nitpick]
       
      An easy habit to get into and a hard one to break is to add an unecessary suffix to the end of our call signs.  This may lead to a station unfamiliar with our calls, especially if we say them really fast, to call us in a way we may not understand.  For instance if you had just identified your station and another station called back "Station ending in 4ID do you copy?" would you know they were trying to contact you?
       
      The addition of the 4ID suffix is scorned by many.  It is also used by many.  I think the reason is that just saying our call signs seems a bit awkward and adding a few words somehow makes the practice flow better during the conversation.  The practice, however, adds a character string after our call signs which should be the last part of the sentence.
       
      Might I suggest using something like "this is K8MHZ" instead.  Please feel free to use your own call sign unless you are signing me up for an expensive door prize at a hamfest.
       
      4ID?  Of course it's for I. D.  What other use is there for a call sign?
       
      [/nitpick]
       
      73,
       
      Mark K8MHZ 4ID
       
      ----- Original Message -----
      From: Bill
      Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 14:47
      Subject: [WestMichiganHams] Re: FCC Cites Amateur

      Identifying?

      You and I know the rules of identifying. I find it somehow
      uncomfortable that some folks will over identify at intervals of
      closer to four minutes while insinuating that there are some
      uncomfortable consequences related to ignoring the identifying rules
      by the FCC. I seriously doubt that a ham who forgets to identify
      after ten minutes of conversation is doing a grave disservice to the
      amateur radio hobby. Making a Big Deal out of identifying seems to
      interrupt the smooth flow of a QSO, especially as we converse on the
      two meter repeater.

      On the two meter repeater we have a built in timer. The repeater will
      identify itself at intervals of ten minutes. This is a very good
      reminder to insert a call sign after the repeater sends the reminder.
      What purpose is served by sending a call sign at earlier intervals?

      This particular ham in the news droned on for over an hour without
      identification. An amazing feat but not particularly hard to imagine.
      You have to imagine that he somehow identified at least to the point
      that the FCC could send him a "pink slip" and invitation to explain.
      I'm having a hard time imagining the FCC guy hanging around long
      enough to keep an eye on his watch, recognize the identifying problem,
      and eventually divining the ham's call sign. It takes two to tango
      and two or more to converse on seventy centimeters? I imagine the
      conversation must have, at some point, thumbed its nose at the FCC and
      their perceived inability or unwillingness to enforce certain rules.

      I hope this does not begin a new round of concern and gnashing of
      teeth over the FCC and their "rules" of conduct. We each enjoy a
      wonderful resource and hobby. Cooperation and compassion go a long
      way to keep peace and harmony among hams.

      My two cents not offered in any capacity other than as a simple ham.

      Bill, AB8SC


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