Re: Queenston Heights
>From: "Craig Williams" <sgtwarnr@...>It is Sheaffe with the 49th and Norton's men that climbs the bluff by the
>I agree,but I did see something that made me more than a little angry.
>Anyone who watched the show without a strong prior knowledge of the war
>would now believe that Norton and his small but dedicated band were the
>heroes of Queenstown![snip]
old trappers trail and outflanks the US forces.
>Once again a great historical wrong goes unchanged and a new "revised"Jim adds: I agree with Craig. Though... weren't the majority of the British
>history goes forth.
>Remember, as enthusiasts it is ours to keep the faith.
Regulars who Sheaffe led up the trappers trail men of the 41st? Joined by a
detachment of the 41st who marched from Chippewa? I'm not meaning to be
unduly picky here - just keeping the faith with the men of the particular
unit my gang is trying, however inadequately, to commemorate... ;>)
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From: easeufe@... <easeufe@...>
To: WarOf1812@egroups.com <WarOf1812@egroups.com>
Date: 15 November 2000 22:20
Subject: Re: [WarOf1812] Re: Queenston Heights
>Glad to see you're back.
>Ed Seufert, LCpl
>1812 Royal Marines
- Brainfart! gack
Sorry ...yes Jim you're right. My bad! In Fact the substantial force was
made up of men from the flank co.s of the 41st!
But there, proving my point, the general public was left with no inkling of
the misinformation passed onto them.
I totally agree with you in regards to Norton "winning" the battle. I
remember hearing a lecture by Carl Benn on the subject of Indians
during the War of 1812 that during the battle of Queenston Heights 3
columns of Indians set out on this flanking manouver. It was only
Norton's column that made it. The other 2 "disappeared". Carl
theorized that during the march the Indians heard the clamour of
battle and were unnerved by it. He stated this was not an act of
cowardous but just plain fear of the noise. Apparently this was the
first Europeon style battle that the Indians were exposed to. Norton's
column made it. Why? Maybe because like Craig said they were
accompanied with flank companies of a British regiment.
PS - Welcome back.
- If I recall correctly, Crooks' Compamy of the 1st Lincoln Militia were
there as well. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
- On behalf of the 22nd U.S. Infantry, Henderson's Company, I would like
to thank all the organizers and volunteers for working so diligently in
making this event very special.
It was a priviledge and an honor to be part of the march, the battle
and the ceremony. We look forward to 2012!
Lt. Andy Desjardins
- Hi Jim,
�� The Mohawks were at the top of the ridge, HIDDEN and moving (fire & move, fire & move) so the Amaericans didn't know how many were there, in fact, they turned their canons to fire up because they thought that the Brits had come around behind them.� A considerabley good strategy by John Norton and his men, which were about 250, strong enough to "pull this off", distract the US force and, allow the Brits to come from behind and clinch the American retreat.� Not too shabby at all and obviously a serious enough threat!
Yours, Kim Lundberg, British Native Allies
- Hello All,
There are a few (almost) last minute items that I need to reiterate about the Queenston Heights event in two weeks.
1 - Registrations are taken on a unit-basis, so please remind your unit commander to register at this link: http://www.visit1812.com/events/queenston-registration.html. Updates are greatly appreciated. Simply note on the form that it is an update.
2 - When you arrive at the event, you will need to register individually. Each person will be given a card that will serve as a meal ticket as well as a safety card. Without this card you will not eat, and you will not participate in the event.
3 - The camps at Fort George will be laid out Thursday morning. Set-up can begin any time after noon.
I hope this answers any of the questions you have about this event, but please email me if you need more information.
Aide de Camp to General Twist
- The link below does not work because of the period at the end of the link. If you remove it, it should work.
--- In WarOf1812@yahoogroups.com, "shayna121" <PrivateCannon@...> wrote:
> Hello All,
> There are a few (almost) last minute items that I need to reiterate about the Queenston Heights event in two weeks.
> 1 - Registrations are taken on a unit-basis, so please remind your unit commander to register at this link: http://www.visit1812.com/events/queenston-registration.html. Updates are greatly appreciated. Simply note on the form that it is an update.
- One final note (I hope) about registration.
If you are planning on arriving Saturday morning to participate in the march, the British will begin forming at 9:00. You will need to register and be ready to form for 9:00, therefore, so you should time your arrival appropriately. The march will not wait for late registrants!
> --- In WarOf1812@yahoogroups.com, "shayna121" <PrivateCannon@> wrote:
> > Hello All,
> > There are a few (almost) last minute items that I need to reiterate about the Queenston Heights event in two weeks.
> > 1 - Registrations are taken on a unit-basis, so please remind your unit commander to register at this link: http://www.visit1812.com/events/queenston-registration.html. Updates are greatly appreciated. Simply note on the form that it is an update.
- Hello All,
I have posted two files in a folder named 'Queenston Heights' on the Yahoo group site. They are the plans for the battle this weekend. Unit Commanders, please ensure you have reviewed these files so you are clear on your role during the battle.
Any questions, please ask.
AdC to General Twist
- On behalf of The British Indian Dept.
I'd like to offer my sincere thanks to Parks Canada staff and volunteers,
the organizers in crown forces and those people on the other end of the field,
also a big thanks to all my fellow reenactors for not only this amazing event
but also this past season.
Hope to see you all again in the spring.
Roy Winders, Capt. B.I.D.
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- WOW... What more can be said!
On behalf of the 7th Company Royal Newfoundland Regiment I would like to
thank Dan, Peter, Elizabeth, Peter, Gavin, Peter, Dave, Chris, Sal, and
anyone else from Fort George that I have missed... Thanks for giving us such
a wonderful place to sleep! To Erica, Jim and the rest of the Friends of
Fort George, thank you for keeping me fat and happy all weekend. I can't
believe we didn't have to cook anything!
To Jim, Heather, Tanya, Rebecca, Daryl, Trav, Justin, and the rest of the
staff of the Niagara Parks Commission, thanks for looking after us along the
Thank you to the Crown Forces Staff for arriving to layout the camp for us,
plan the battle scenarios, buy yards of black silk for armbands and sword
knot covers, and for being the glue that kept this two country, three site
Lastly thanks to all of you for coming. WOW... this one is going down in
the history books!
Kevin Windsor, Captain
Royal Newfoundland Regiment
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