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  • dancingbobd@webtv.net
    Hi Tracy, Andrew, Doug & all, I dug out my copy of Heitman s Historical Register and Dictionary of the United States Army, 1798 - 1903 and looked at the
    Message 1 of 4 , Sep 29 3:44 PM
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      Hi Tracy, Andrew, Doug & all,

      I dug out my copy of Heitman's Historical Register and Dictionary of the
      United States Army, 1798 - 1903 and looked at the statistics in Vol. 2,
      pgs 281 - 286 on the numbers of troops in the various wars and the
      number of killed (K) and died of wounds (DOW) reported.
      War of 1812
      Regulars..........38,186 (Sept 1814)
      Killed...................1,300
      % Killed 3.40%
      (Heitman goes on to state that, since records are incomplete, that the
      total did not exceed 60,000. Using this number the % Killed is 2%)
      Militia.................471,600
      Killed.........................577
      %Killed 0.12
      (Heitman states that the militia figure is not accurate due to the fact
      that many men enlisted several times for specific emergencies for
      periods of from 30 to 90 days. Taking this into account, the %K would
      still be less than 1%.)

      1st Seminole War
      1817 - 1818
      Regulars.................1,100
      Killed............................46
      %Killed 4%

      Black Hawk's War
      1831 - 1832
      Regulars.....................1,341
      Killed..................................5
      %Killed 0.37%

      Volunteers....................5,368
      Killed.................................21
      %KIlled 0.39%

      2nd Seminole War
      1835 - 1842
      Regulars.......................11,169
      Killed..................................328
      %Killed 2.93%

      Volunteers.....................29,953
      Killed....................................55
      %Killed 0.18

      Mexican War
      1846 - 1848
      Regulars.......................42,587
      Killed..................................585
      %Killed 1.37%

      Volunteers.....................73,260
      Killed..................................607
      %Killed 0.82%

      Mexican War incl. DOW (529 R & V) 1.6%
      Mexican War died of disease......11,155
      %Died of disease 10%

      ACW
      1861 - 1865

      Reg. & Vol. ................2,865,028
      Killed................................67,058
      %Killed 2.34%

      DOW.................................47,012
      %DOW 1.5%

      Total 3.84%

      Died of Disease.................224,586
      % Died of Disease 7.83%

      Spanish-American War
      1898
      Reg. & Vol...........................233,235
      Killed..........................................208
      %Killed 0.09%

      DOW............................................81
      %DOW 0.03%

      Total Casualties.........................289
      %Died 0.12%

      Died of Disease.......................3,848
      %Died of Disease 1.72%

      For American troops, disease was always much better at killing them than
      the enemy. Eight times as many in the Mexican War. Twice as many in
      the ACW. Thirteen times as many in the Spanish-American War.

      It seems that killing is even less effective with bolt action repeaters.
      Go figure!

      Hope you find this as interesting as I did in compiling it.

      Please come by my Engineers camp and say howdy next weekend at
      Mississinewa. U.S. camp of course.

      Regards,

      Bob
    • Col Sjt Jones
      Bob - super figures! Now I suppose a number of factors could be discussed to explain the variation. Length of war. Intensity of the war. Numbers enlisted
      Message 2 of 4 , Sep 30 1:16 PM
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        Bob - super figures! Now I suppose a number of factors could be
        discussed to explain the variation. Length of war. Intensity of the
        war. Numbers enlisted who actually saw action. Doug


        --- In WarOf1812@egroups.com, dancingbobd@w... wrote:
        > Hi Tracy, Andrew, Doug & all,
        >
        > I dug out my copy of Heitman's Historical Register and Dictionary
        of the
        > United States Army, 1798 - 1903 and looked at the statistics in
        Vol. 2,
        > pgs 281 - 286 on the numbers of troops in the various wars and the
        > number of killed (K) and died of wounds (DOW) reported.
        > War of 1812
        > Regulars..........38,186 (Sept 1814)
        > Killed...................1,300
        > % Killed 3.40%
        > (Heitman goes on to state that, since records are incomplete, that
        the
        > total did not exceed 60,000. Using this number the % Killed is 2%)
        > Militia.................471,600
        > Killed.........................577
        > %Killed 0.12
        > (Heitman states that the militia figure is not accurate due to the
        fact
        > that many men enlisted several times for specific emergencies for
        > periods of from 30 to 90 days. Taking this into account, the %K
        would
        > still be less than 1%.)
        >
        > 1st Seminole War
        > 1817 - 1818
        > Regulars.................1,100
        > Killed............................46
        > %Killed 4%
        >
        > Black Hawk's War
        > 1831 - 1832
        > Regulars.....................1,341
        > Killed..................................5
        > %Killed 0.37%
        >
        > Volunteers....................5,368
        > Killed.................................21
        > %KIlled 0.39%
        >
        > 2nd Seminole War
        > 1835 - 1842
        > Regulars.......................11,169
        > Killed..................................328
        > %Killed 2.93%
        >
        > Volunteers.....................29,953
        > Killed....................................55
        > %Killed 0.18
        >
        > Mexican War
        > 1846 - 1848
        > Regulars.......................42,587
        > Killed..................................585
        > %Killed 1.37%
        >
        > Volunteers.....................73,260
        > Killed..................................607
        > %Killed 0.82%
        >
        > Mexican War incl. DOW (529 R & V) 1.6%
        > Mexican War died of disease......11,155
        > %Died of disease 10%
        >
        > ACW
        > 1861 - 1865
        >
        > Reg. & Vol. ................2,865,028
        > Killed................................67,058
        > %Killed 2.34%
        >
        > DOW.................................47,012
        > %DOW 1.5%
        >
        > Total 3.84%
        >
        > Died of Disease.................224,586
        > % Died of Disease 7.83%
        >
        > Spanish-American War
        > 1898
        > Reg. & Vol...........................233,235
        > Killed..........................................208
        > %Killed 0.09%
        >
        > DOW............................................81
        > %DOW 0.03%
        >
        > Total Casualties.........................289
        > %Died 0.12%
        >
        > Died of Disease.......................3,848
        > %Died of Disease 1.72%
        >
        > For American troops, disease was always much better at killing them
        than
        > the enemy. Eight times as many in the Mexican War. Twice as many
        in
        > the ACW. Thirteen times as many in the Spanish-American War.
        >
        > It seems that killing is even less effective with bolt action
        repeaters.
        > Go figure!
        >
        > Hope you find this as interesting as I did in compiling it.
        >
        > Please come by my Engineers camp and say howdy next weekend at
        > Mississinewa. U.S. camp of course.
        >
        > Regards,
        >
        > Bob
      • dancingbobd@webtv.net
        Hi Doug, Heitman lists those killed by officer and enlisted and total involved by officer and enlisted, but there is no way to tell what percentage actually
        Message 3 of 4 , Sep 30 4:44 PM
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          Hi Doug,

          Heitman lists those killed by officer and enlisted and total involved by
          officer and enlisted, but there is no way to tell what percentage
          actually were involved in fighting. If you look at the list in Appendix
          III it gives a chronological list of battles that U.S. Regulars fought
          in, by unit and it gives quantities as coy, det, &c but does not give
          any actual numbers. This give no information on the militia at these
          engagements, nor does it give info on battles in which militia fought
          w/o any regulars. Leaves a lot to wonder about!

          Regards,

          Bob
        • Ibbotson, Mark [LSS]
          No problem Tim, twas a mere figure of speach. And i didn t actually refer to it been in the crimea. Although they probably suffered aswell. And yes i have read
          Message 4 of 4 , Oct 1, 2000
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            No problem Tim, twas a mere figure of speach. And i didn't actually refer to it been in the crimea. Although they probably suffered aswell.

            And yes i have read quite a bit about the Crimea, but sadly not as much as other places. In fact we have a pub called the florence and it is full of pics & newspaper reports from the Crimea.

            Thanks for telling me off Tim

            Ibbo
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