Re: [WarOf1812] Gun Ranges, Fort Erie
Whenever you hear tell of the size of the cannon a good rule of thumb is to
use one-tenth of its size to give you an idea of its maximum range.
a six pounder..... would be 0.6 of a mile
a twelve pounder....would be 1.2 miles
an eighteen pounder.....would be 1.8 miles
a twenty-four pounder.....would be 2.4 miles.......and so on
Also, the British load was to use 1/4 to 1/3 the size of the cannon in
gunpowder to give it its maximum range.
6 pdr would use 2 lbs powder maximum load
12 pdr would use 4 lbs powder maximum load
18 pdr would use 6 lbs powder maximum load
24 pdr would use 8 lbs powder maximum load.
The big black gun out in the front(ravelin) of Fort Erie is a 36
pounder....and it's a Russian Gun!! Very curious story behind the old girl.
In the 1830's the French and then the British moved into Russia and started
to produce artillery from their founderies for the Russians....it was a very
enterprising business....until the Crimean War. Ironically, Fort Erie's 36
Pdr is a British Cast Russian Gun!!! It was used against the British by the
Russians in the 1850s, was damaged by a British Ball when it hit the top of
the piece, captured by the British and then began its journey to Canada. It
came here and made its way to the St. Catharines Armoury (home of the
Lincoln and Welland Militia) in the 1930s as a display piece. It was donated
to Fort Erie early in the 1960s....and there it rests in all its glory. Next
time you're there, look at it and you'll see the double headed eagle Cypher
of the Czar of Russia. It had a maximum range of 3.5 miles and its a navel
piece!!! Imagine that baby going off the starboard side with a few of its
buddies. One hell of a big gun and it would have been one hell of a big ship
too!! the gun weighs around 3 tonnes!!!
After all this though, you must remember that the effective ranges of guns
are quite different than their maximum ranges. Usually a third to a half of
their maximum ranges.
Seige lines at Fort Erie: there were three "lines".
Garrison road at Central Avenue is a good place to start to give you a good
idea. Then move it forward toward Fort Erie, right behind the current day
Legion. Then move it forward one more time to about where the road is that
comes out of the back parking lot of the County Fair Mall and goes down to
the modern day Niagara Boulevard.
Hope this helps Rob.
>From: Rob Taylor <niagara_falls_98@...>________________________________________________________________________
>Subject: [WarOf1812] Gun Range
>Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 09:53:26 -0700 (PDT)
> Can anyone out there tell me the range of
>the cannon? For instance how far away from Fort Erie
>were the British seige lines in order to have the
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- Thanks, for the all information Sgt.
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- After much searching I have finally my information on distance and range.
Here is some gleanings
Comparative Ranges of shot from a light 6 pounder with various...(typical
long 18th C title) 1780
Elevation Recoil Powder 1st Graze Extreme Range
degree ft ins lbs oz yds yds
p.b. 3 0 12 235 1429
" " " " 152 1216
p.b. 3 6 1 0 201 1365
p.b. 7 6 1 8 256 1630
4 6 10 1 8 1500 1825
If anyone is interested in this I could prepare it in a spread sheet for
As you can see it is not as simple a formula as Jesse has stated although
it is good to guestimate using that. It depends on elevation, powder, wind
and many other things. One test that was done at Woolwich Common shows
that with 5lbs of powder at 3 degrees one shot went 1671 yds, the second
went 1303, and the last grazed at 632 and rolled to 800!
Hope it helps