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  • Jim
    And she had a cow. (killed and eaten by members of the 49th Regiment of Foot.)
    Message 1 of 7 , May 9 8:36 AM
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      'And she had a cow.'
      (killed and eaten by members of the 49th Regiment of Foot.)

      --- In WarOf1812@yahoogroups.com, "Adrian Rittner" <arittner@...> wrote:
      >
      > You forgot about the cow......revisionist...
      >
      > AR
      >
      >
      >
      > From: WarOf1812@yahoogroups.com [mailto:WarOf1812@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
      > Of Jim
      > Sent: May-08-13 4:40 PM
      > To: WarOf1812@yahoogroups.com
      > Subject: 1812 Re: Laura Secord
      >
      >
      >
      >
      >
      > Thanks Len
      > Not sure how big of a house or lawn you have but Mrs Secord's place is not
      > very big. So, having more than a few dozen folks there at a time will fill
      > the place. Having a battle or parade or even parking on the neighbours'
      > lawns - not considered great ideas (although some of you might remember
      > fighting through the village of Queenston in 1992).
      >
      > I have received some great responses. Very enthusiasitic folks had the
      > calendar marked, probably since they finished Grade 7, and they are super
      > keen on Laura Secord (chocolates and ice cream). Others are looking forward
      > to Beaver Dams and hundreds of crazy (dedicated)people have already signed
      > up for the 32km / 19 mile hike from Laura's place to Thorold/Beaver Dams.
      >
      > Myths - yeah Laura has a few. She gets younger and some might say, 'hotter',
      > on the chocolate boxes. Many serious historians are not fans, she is
      > 'overdone'. The guy she warned, this Fitzgibbon character, did write three
      > letters (with some prompting from the Secord's) to acknowledge Mrs.Secord's
      > assistance in the victory at Beaver Dams. He also acknowledged that his men
      > didn't fire a shot and the fighting was conducted by Seven Nations and Six
      > Nations warriors. For a poor officer, up from the ranks, he needed to take
      > all the glory but he gave credit to the people who helped or actually did
      > all the hard work. Fitzgibbon simply took advantage of the situation and the
      > field commander, Captain Dominique Ducharme, didn't think his English was
      > good enough to negotiate.
      >
      > There are plenty of mythical events on the calendar. I am sure Lt Col
      > Boerstler would have wished away Beaver Dams as a myth or a bad dream. Alas,
      > tis true. He lost to underwhelming numbers of scary Indians, a quick
      > thinking British Army Lieutenant, a helpful 37 year-old mother of five and a
      > savvy Toronto confectioner who borrowed the name in 1913.
      >
      > Hope to see you Len, and everybody else, at George, Stoney and the Forty.
      >
      > Jim
      >
      > --- In WarOf1812@yahoogroups.com <mailto:WarOf1812%40yahoogroups.com> ,
      > "lenthecooper" <lheidebrecht@> wrote:
      > >
      > > Oh no Jim, you are eight months too late in announcing this event. What a
      > great living history event this could have been with a little forewarning. I
      > really hope you have a good turn out (I'm booked, sorry) as it is such
      > iconic and mythologized (there ain't no cow) portion of Canadian history. I
      > will pass this onto the folks in my unit who might be interested.
      > > Have a fantastic time, it sounds like great fun.
      > > Cheers,
      > > Len Heidebrecht
      > > York Volunteers
      > >
      > > --- In WarOf1812@yahoogroups.com <mailto:WarOf1812%40yahoogroups.com> ,
      > "Jim" <jhill@> wrote:
      > > >
      > > > Hello Folks
      > > > I know this summer is cranking up and Fort Meigs was brilliant. I also
      > know the nice folks in Spencerville, Ontario have activities the same
      > weekend, but here goes...
      > > >
      > > > On June 21st and June 22nd, we will be commemorating Laura Secord at her
      > Homestead in Queenston, Ontario. This will mark the 200th anniversary of Mrs
      > Secord's walk into history. We will have a stamp and coin unveiling from
      > Canada Post and the Royal Canadian Mint at 10am on Friday June 21st at the
      > Homestead and the remainder of the day will be dedicated to student
      > programmes.
      > > >
      > > > At 5pm, the event will shift to Queenston Heights and a Toast to Laura
      > Secord. This will involve Wine (we're in Niagara), Cheese (she had a cow -
      > really?!) and Chocolate (it is Laura Secord). The cost is $50 for the gala
      > event and contact information will be announced soon.
      > > >
      > > > On Saturday June 22nd, starting at 6am, the walkers will start arriving
      > and step through the same door, on the same day, at the same time, of Laura
      > Secord's departure. You can sign up to recreate the entire walk (19 miles/32
      > Km), or segments of the walk, at www.FriendsofLauraSecord.com and the cost
      > is $25.
      > > >
      > > > However, there is an alternative. You are welcome to come to the
      > Homestead on Friday and Saturday and hang out with us and the public. No
      > long marches, no speeches, just a relaxing day in a lovely setting. This is
      > not a battle reenactment, although the village is part of the battlefield of
      > Queenston Heights. We encourage anyone who is portraying mid-war US troops,
      > (i.e.- US Light Artillery, 6th, 13th, 14th, 23rd Infantry or State Militia)
      > to join us for either day and British, Canadian or Native forces are also
      > welcome (RA, 8th, 49th Foot, Provincial Militia, Six/Seven Nations)
      > Civilians of any background are welcome to attend which is only proper since
      > Laura Secord is the most famous civilian from the War of 1812, north of the
      > border. I will be enjoying a meal in Mrs Secord's kitchen throughout both
      > days, United States forces and friendly Canadians are welcome to join me.
      > Food and water will be supplied for those attending. The village will be
      > buzzing with activity.
      > > >
      > > > If you are a reenactor and you are interested in attending, please
      > contact Jim Hill 905 353-5442 or e-mail jhill(at)niagaraparks.com to
      > register. We have very limited space available.
      > > >
      > > > We also have very limited space for further demonstrators/craftspeople.
      > If you are a demonstrator/craftsperson and you are selling items, we will
      > waive the historic merchant fee for June 21st and June 22nd. Please contact
      > Melissa Bottomley, the manager of the Homestead to register a spot with your
      > requirements 905 262-4851 or e-mail laurasecord(at)niagaraparks.com.
      > > >
      > > > Of course, just like Laura's walk, the action shifts to the Battle of
      > Beaver Dams commemoration on Saturday afternoon and evening in Thorold,
      > Ontario. For more information on Beaver Dams check out:
      > www.battleofbeaverdams.com
      > > >
      > > > Nice to see everyone at Fort Meigs, although the Sergeant Major was
      > unrelenting, picking on Private Hill. Congratulations to the Fort Meigs
      > staff and volunteers. Awesome weather, friendly hosts and just a great time!
      > See you at George, Stoney and the Forty in the coming weeks.
      > > >
      > > > More information will follow on the Siege of Fort Erie 199th, August
      > 10th and 11th, 2013 (we wanted all the other events and the actual 200th
      > anniversaries to get in their plugs first)
      > > >
      > > > Thanks for your patience.
      > > > Jim Hill
      > > >
      > >
      >
      >
      >
      >
      >
      > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
      >
    • Craig Williams
      With mustard... we re not barbarians! ... [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
      Message 2 of 7 , May 9 10:46 AM
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        With mustard... we're not barbarians!

        On 9-May-13, at 11:36 AM, Jim wrote:

        > 'And she had a cow.'
        > (killed and eaten by members of the 49th Regiment of Foot.)
        >
        > --- In WarOf1812@yahoogroups.com, "Adrian Rittner" <arittner@...>
        > wrote:
        > >
        > > You forgot about the cow......revisionist...
        > >
        > > AR
        > >
        > >
        > >
        > > From: WarOf1812@yahoogroups.com [mailto:WarOf1812@yahoogroups.com]
        > On Behalf
        > > Of Jim
        > > Sent: May-08-13 4:40 PM
        > > To: WarOf1812@yahoogroups.com
        > > Subject: 1812 Re: Laura Secord
        > >
        > >
        > >
        > >
        > >
        > > Thanks Len
        > > Not sure how big of a house or lawn you have but Mrs Secord's
        > place is not
        > > very big. So, having more than a few dozen folks there at a time
        > will fill
        > > the place. Having a battle or parade or even parking on the
        > neighbours'
        > > lawns - not considered great ideas (although some of you might
        > remember
        > > fighting through the village of Queenston in 1992).
        > >
        > > I have received some great responses. Very enthusiasitic folks had
        > the
        > > calendar marked, probably since they finished Grade 7, and they
        > are super
        > > keen on Laura Secord (chocolates and ice cream). Others are
        > looking forward
        > > to Beaver Dams and hundreds of crazy (dedicated)people have
        > already signed
        > > up for the 32km / 19 mile hike from Laura's place to Thorold/
        > Beaver Dams.
        > >
        > > Myths - yeah Laura has a few. She gets younger and some might say,
        > 'hotter',
        > > on the chocolate boxes. Many serious historians are not fans, she is
        > > 'overdone'. The guy she warned, this Fitzgibbon character, did
        > write three
        > > letters (with some prompting from the Secord's) to acknowledge
        > Mrs.Secord's
        > > assistance in the victory at Beaver Dams. He also acknowledged
        > that his men
        > > didn't fire a shot and the fighting was conducted by Seven Nations
        > and Six
        > > Nations warriors. For a poor officer, up from the ranks, he needed
        > to take
        > > all the glory but he gave credit to the people who helped or
        > actually did
        > > all the hard work. Fitzgibbon simply took advantage of the
        > situation and the
        > > field commander, Captain Dominique Ducharme, didn't think his
        > English was
        > > good enough to negotiate.
        > >
        > > There are plenty of mythical events on the calendar. I am sure Lt
        > Col
        > > Boerstler would have wished away Beaver Dams as a myth or a bad
        > dream. Alas,
        > > tis true. He lost to underwhelming numbers of scary Indians, a quick
        > > thinking British Army Lieutenant, a helpful 37 year-old mother of
        > five and a
        > > savvy Toronto confectioner who borrowed the name in 1913.
        > >
        > > Hope to see you Len, and everybody else, at George, Stoney and the
        > Forty.
        > >
        > > Jim
        > >
        > > --- In WarOf1812@yahoogroups.com
        > <mailto:WarOf1812%40yahoogroups.com> ,
        > > "lenthecooper" <lheidebrecht@> wrote:
        > > >
        > > > Oh no Jim, you are eight months too late in announcing this
        > event. What a
        > > great living history event this could have been with a little
        > forewarning. I
        > > really hope you have a good turn out (I'm booked, sorry) as it is
        > such
        > > iconic and mythologized (there ain't no cow) portion of Canadian
        > history. I
        > > will pass this onto the folks in my unit who might be interested.
        > > > Have a fantastic time, it sounds like great fun.
        > > > Cheers,
        > > > Len Heidebrecht
        > > > York Volunteers
        > > >
        > > > --- In WarOf1812@yahoogroups.com <mailto:WarOf1812%40yahoogroups.com
        > > ,
        > > "Jim" <jhill@> wrote:
        > > > >
        > > > > Hello Folks
        > > > > I know this summer is cranking up and Fort Meigs was
        > brilliant. I also
        > > know the nice folks in Spencerville, Ontario have activities the
        > same
        > > weekend, but here goes...
        > > > >
        > > > > On June 21st and June 22nd, we will be commemorating Laura
        > Secord at her
        > > Homestead in Queenston, Ontario. This will mark the 200th
        > anniversary of Mrs
        > > Secord's walk into history. We will have a stamp and coin
        > unveiling from
        > > Canada Post and the Royal Canadian Mint at 10am on Friday June
        > 21st at the
        > > Homestead and the remainder of the day will be dedicated to student
        > > programmes.
        > > > >
        > > > > At 5pm, the event will shift to Queenston Heights and a Toast
        > to Laura
        > > Secord. This will involve Wine (we're in Niagara), Cheese (she had
        > a cow -
        > > really?!) and Chocolate (it is Laura Secord). The cost is $50 for
        > the gala
        > > event and contact information will be announced soon.
        > > > >
        > > > > On Saturday June 22nd, starting at 6am, the walkers will start
        > arriving
        > > and step through the same door, on the same day, at the same time,
        > of Laura
        > > Secord's departure. You can sign up to recreate the entire walk
        > (19 miles/32
        > > Km), or segments of the walk, at www.FriendsofLauraSecord.com and
        > the cost
        > > is $25.
        > > > >
        > > > > However, there is an alternative. You are welcome to come to the
        > > Homestead on Friday and Saturday and hang out with us and the
        > public. No
        > > long marches, no speeches, just a relaxing day in a lovely
        > setting. This is
        > > not a battle reenactment, although the village is part of the
        > battlefield of
        > > Queenston Heights. We encourage anyone who is portraying mid-war
        > US troops,
        > > (i.e.- US Light Artillery, 6th, 13th, 14th, 23rd Infantry or State
        > Militia)
        > > to join us for either day and British, Canadian or Native forces
        > are also
        > > welcome (RA, 8th, 49th Foot, Provincial Militia, Six/Seven Nations)
        > > Civilians of any background are welcome to attend which is only
        > proper since
        > > Laura Secord is the most famous civilian from the War of 1812,
        > north of the
        > > border. I will be enjoying a meal in Mrs Secord's kitchen
        > throughout both
        > > days, United States forces and friendly Canadians are welcome to
        > join me.
        > > Food and water will be supplied for those attending. The village
        > will be
        > > buzzing with activity.
        > > > >
        > > > > If you are a reenactor and you are interested in attending,
        > please
        > > contact Jim Hill 905 353-5442 or e-mail jhill(at)niagaraparks.com to
        > > register. We have very limited space available.
        > > > >
        > > > > We also have very limited space for further demonstrators/
        > craftspeople.
        > > If you are a demonstrator/craftsperson and you are selling items,
        > we will
        > > waive the historic merchant fee for June 21st and June 22nd.
        > Please contact
        > > Melissa Bottomley, the manager of the Homestead to register a spot
        > with your
        > > requirements 905 262-4851 or e-mail laurasecord(at)niagaraparks.com.
        > > > >
        > > > > Of course, just like Laura's walk, the action shifts to the
        > Battle of
        > > Beaver Dams commemoration on Saturday afternoon and evening in
        > Thorold,
        > > Ontario. For more information on Beaver Dams check out:
        > > www.battleofbeaverdams.com
        > > > >
        > > > > Nice to see everyone at Fort Meigs, although the Sergeant
        > Major was
        > > unrelenting, picking on Private Hill. Congratulations to the Fort
        > Meigs
        > > staff and volunteers. Awesome weather, friendly hosts and just a
        > great time!
        > > See you at George, Stoney and the Forty in the coming weeks.
        > > > >
        > > > > More information will follow on the Siege of Fort Erie 199th,
        > August
        > > 10th and 11th, 2013 (we wanted all the other events and the actual
        > 200th
        > > anniversaries to get in their plugs first)
        > > > >
        > > > > Thanks for your patience.
        > > > > Jim Hill
        > > > >
        > > >
        > >
        > >
        > >
        > >
        > >
        > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
        > >
        >
        >



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