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Re: recover arms for pike

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  • John
    This sounds like the drill movement our Sergeant s use in Aust for the full present arms. For the short report scenario we use the left hand across the body -
    Message 1 of 23 , Dec 30, 2012
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      This sounds like the drill movement our Sergeant's use in Aust for the full present arms. For the short report scenario we use the left hand across the body - for a start it would be too dangerous to lower the spontoon to a perpendicular position in front of a senior officer when your trying to report to him...!

      Cheers,

      John

      --- In WarOf1812@yahoogroups.com, Kevin Windsor <kevin.windsor@...> wrote:
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      > Iain, the best I can figure from the manual is to recover arms.
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      > "Throw the pike to the front in a perpendicular position opposite to the
      > left eye, the right hand grasping it at the shoe, which touches the body
      > slightly, and the left hand supporting the shaft by holding it opposite the
      > left eye between the thumb and fore-finger; the left elbow is in this
      > position bent, and risen as high as the left shoulder."
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      > This is from "A Treatise on the British Drill and Exercise of the Company"
      > 1816
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    • peter monahan
      And exactly which manual has the make love and fornicate drills in it? Peter Monahan John Potter said: Semantics I know but perhaps a subtle
      Message 2 of 23 , Dec 31, 2012
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        And exactly which manual has the 'make love' and fornicate drills in it?

        Peter Monahan





        John Potter said: <SNIP> "Semantics I know but perhaps a subtle distinction from the days when social class was more of a factor in the military than it is today.. A bit like the old saying that the men sweat but officers perspire, or that officers 'make love' and the men/NCO's fornicate...!<unSNIP>
      • Mark Dickerson
        My mistake then. During my years as a sergeant in the light company, I only every carried a musket, not one of those silly fish/pike things. And I always
        Message 3 of 23 , Jan 2, 2013
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          My mistake then. During my years as a sergeant in the light company, I only
          every carried a musket, not one of those silly fish/pike things. And I
          always carried it at the advance as befitting such an important person of
          quality and dignity.



          Mark







          From: WarOf1812@yahoogroups.com [mailto:WarOf1812@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
          Of Kevin Windsor
          Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2012 4:20 PM
          To: WarOf1812@yahoogroups.com
          Subject: RE: 1812 Re: Pike Drill for Serjeants, Revisited...





          There is nothing in the "Exercise of the Pike" that shows "Advance Arms" for
          the pike.

          Kevin

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          Of Mark Dickerson

          but a sgt usually does carry the pike at the advance, so it would be the
          left hand that comes across assuming that is the situation.

          Mark D

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        • John
          You know what the Army is like.. Everything is regulated and done by the numbers ...! ;-) John
          Message 4 of 23 , Jan 2, 2013
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            You know what the Army is like.. Everything is regulated and done 'by the numbers'...! ;-)

            John

            --- In WarOf1812@yahoogroups.com, peter monahan <petemonahan@...> wrote:
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            > And exactly which manual has the 'make love' and fornicate drills in it?
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            > Peter Monahan
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            > John Potter said: <SNIP> "Semantics I know but perhaps a subtle distinction from the days when social class was more of a factor in the military than it is today.. A bit like the old saying that the men sweat but officers perspire, or that officers 'make love' and the men/NCO's fornicate...!<unSNIP>
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          • Kevin Windsor
            No I guess you are too fancy for things like that!! KW From: WarOf1812@yahoogroups.com [mailto:WarOf1812@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mark Dickerson My
            Message 5 of 23 , Jan 2, 2013
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              No I guess you are too fancy for things like that!!



              KW



              From: WarOf1812@yahoogroups.com [mailto:WarOf1812@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
              Of Mark Dickerson



              My mistake then. During my years as a sergeant in the light company, I only
              every carried a musket, not one of those silly fish/pike things. And I
              always carried it at the advance as befitting such an important person of
              quality and dignity.

              Mark




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