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Impressment and US sovereignty/ now pronunciation

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  • Steve Abolt
    Walker s Critical Pronuciation Dictionary ( my copy dated to 1816, American edition) pronounces the word Lieutenant as: lev-ten -nant.  Accent on second
    Message 1 of 40 , Feb 2, 2012
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      Walker's Critical Pronuciation Dictionary ( my copy dated to 1816, American edition) pronounces the word Lieutenant as: lev-ten'-nant.  Accent on second syllable. Notice a soft v sound not f. The 1825 edition published in New York  pronounces it the same way, but with this interesting bullet point to the word: "This word is frequently pronounced by good speakers as if written Livtenant.  The difference between the short i and short e is so trifling as to scarcely deserve notice: but the regular sound as if written Lewtenant, seems not so remote from the corruption as to make us lose all hope that in time it will be the actual pronunciation."
       
      And to ressurect that old tried and true discussion point; Huzzah.... Hoo-zay
       
      All the best,
      S.

      From: Jim jhill@...

       
      Great point about language.
      I found an American reference (1820's) that had Lieutenant pronounced 'Leftenant'.
      So, if you are portraying a US Army, Marine or Naval Lieutenant, you might be 'left' instead of 'lieu', or you could just ask for a promotion.

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    • Peter Catley
      When I asked my father about why he signed up in 1939 his answer was very simple, because you did a whole generation in the UK did because it was the right
      Message 40 of 40 , Feb 4, 2012
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        When I asked my father about why he signed up in 1939 his answer was very simple, "because you did" a whole generation in the UK did because it was the right thing to do. Whether they still thought that in May 1945 (at least those who had survived) is perhaps a rather different question :)

        The Pensioner

        On 3 Feb 2012, at 22:28, Ron wrote:

        > When I asked my Grandad why he signed up for WW 1 and my Dad for WW II the answer was the same--for the adventure! Not KIng and country, not to oppose the godless Hun but simply for the adventure. Neiher wanted a job or signed up through economic necessity.
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        > From: peter monahan <petemonahan@...>
        > To: warof1812 <warof1812@yahoogroups.com>
        > Sent: Fri, Feb 3, 2012 1:41 pm
        > Subject: RE: 1812 Re: Punishments
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        > Squire wrotwe: "Was a good option if you were starving."
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        > Spot on, Squire! Certainly, not everyone who joined the Allied forces in 1939-40-41 did it solely because of a deep seated hatered for National Socialism. Three squares a day and a new brown or blue suit must have sounded pretty good to many of the men who hadn't worked [or eaten properly] in the Depression years. I also noted a few years ago one young lad who'd lost his job at Marks & Spencer and joined the British Army and died in Iraq. His pastor at homne referred tio him as 'an economic conscript', which I thought a very telling turn of phrase. Certainly a large number, of the grunts at least, who serve in the Canadian Foprces come from the less affluent parts of this great land.
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