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1812 Re: Impressment and US sovereignty and supposed Brit disrespect of same

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  • usmarine1814
    Peter, Something to look into for sure. I am only going on what I recall. I was not sure if the one I thought did not return was hanged or died in captivity.
    Message 1 of 40 , Feb 2, 2012
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      Peter,
      Something to look into for sure. I am only going on what I recall. I was not sure if the one I thought did not return was hanged or died in captivity. Thus I did not say, because I think I have heard both. Or perhaps, as you point out, that two did not return and each met their fate; one by the rope the other by disease. I am sure someone here will set me straight.
      YHOS
      Colin
      --- In WarOf1812@yahoogroups.com, peter monahan <petemonahan@...> wrote:
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      > Colin Murphy wrote: The fact is that American citizens (born and naturalized) were seized. The most infamous incident, Chesapeake-Leopard, the four men taken from sovereign American territory, within territorial waters,were all proven American citizens and three were returned. Unfortunately for the other, Britain's needs were more important than the facts and his life.
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      > I looked into this a couple months ago for an article to go in our local paper. [snip]
      > Peter Monahan
    • Peter Catley
      When I asked my father about why he signed up in 1939 his answer was very simple, because you did a whole generation in the UK did because it was the right
      Message 40 of 40 , Feb 4, 2012
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        When I asked my father about why he signed up in 1939 his answer was very simple, "because you did" a whole generation in the UK did because it was the right thing to do. Whether they still thought that in May 1945 (at least those who had survived) is perhaps a rather different question :)

        The Pensioner

        On 3 Feb 2012, at 22:28, Ron wrote:

        > When I asked my Grandad why he signed up for WW 1 and my Dad for WW II the answer was the same--for the adventure! Not KIng and country, not to oppose the godless Hun but simply for the adventure. Neiher wanted a job or signed up through economic necessity.
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        > From: peter monahan <petemonahan@...>
        > To: warof1812 <warof1812@yahoogroups.com>
        > Sent: Fri, Feb 3, 2012 1:41 pm
        > Subject: RE: 1812 Re: Punishments
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        > Squire wrotwe: "Was a good option if you were starving."
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        > Spot on, Squire! Certainly, not everyone who joined the Allied forces in 1939-40-41 did it solely because of a deep seated hatered for National Socialism. Three squares a day and a new brown or blue suit must have sounded pretty good to many of the men who hadn't worked [or eaten properly] in the Depression years. I also noted a few years ago one young lad who'd lost his job at Marks & Spencer and joined the British Army and died in Iraq. His pastor at homne referred tio him as 'an economic conscript', which I thought a very telling turn of phrase. Certainly a large number, of the grunts at least, who serve in the Canadian Foprces come from the less affluent parts of this great land.
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        > Peter Monahan
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