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Re: 1812 RE: who won?

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  • gary beauregard
    A fine distinction but boarding an, independent, foreign flagged vessel and using their crew to fill out your recruiting quota isn t exactly geared to making
    Message 1 of 35 , Oct 5, 2011
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      A fine distinction but boarding an, independent, foreign flagged vessel and using their crew to fill out your recruiting quota isn't exactly geared to making friends. The first encounter of the Chesapeake and the Leopard is an even more egregious case.
       
      The Chesapeake-Leopard Affair was a naval engagement which occurred on June 22, 1807, between the British warship HMS Leopard and the American frigate, the USS Chesapeake, when the crew of the Leopard pursued, attacked and boarded the American frigate looking for deserters from the British Navy. [1] The Chesapeake was caught off guard and in a state of unpreparedness and after a short battle involving broadsides from the Leopard, her commander James Barron surrendered his vessel to the British after firing only one shot. Four crew members were removed from the American vessel and were tried for desertion, one of whom was promptly executed aboard the Leopard. The Chesapeake was allowed to return home where James Barron was consequently court martialed and barred from further command. The event was one of which led to the War of 1812.
       
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    • petemonahan
      Oddly enough, the same thing happened in WWII. Some of the few Germans captured in the disasterous Dieppe raid were handcuffed for the trip back to England,
      Message 35 of 35 , Oct 5, 2011
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        Oddly enough, the same thing happened in WWII. Some of the few Germans captured in the disasterous Dieppe raid were handcuffed for the trip back to England, apparently to stop them destroying anything of intelligence value before they could be searched. And, no doubt, to make them easier to handle in crowded landing craft.

        The Germans got wind of this and shackeld an equivalent number of Canadaians captured on the raid. So the British re-shackled the Germans and... you get the idea. However, one Cdn later reported that in his camp, after the first week or so, the guards put the cuffs on for roll call each morning, fulfilling the bare letter of the order from Berlin ordering shackling, and took them off for the rest of each day. Yet another example of the common soldier being more humane and perhaps more intelligent than his alleged leaders!
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