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RE: Militia wear for1812

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  • irv409@sympatico.ca
    What about Benjamen Foresythe s group from upstate New York that fought all along the St. Lawrence Frontier--the Foresythe Rifles. They wear grean coats
    Message 1 of 33 , Feb 4, 2010
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      What about Benjamen Foresythe's group from upstate New York that fought all along the St. Lawrence Frontier--the Foresythe Rifles. They wear grean coats (coatee? ) with upturned collars,black belts and a shako for headdress >there is a group portraying them based in Ogdensburg,NY--they are holding their 26th re-enactment on Feb. 20-21st.in Ogdensburg this year---great to get a powder /smoke fix to carry one through till the warmer season starts.anyone interested contact Tim Cryderman at tcryderman1@...



      Bob Irvine






      To: WarOf1812@yahoogroups.com
      From: tabel@...
      Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2010 12:21:51 +0000
      Subject: Re: Militia wear for1812






      >Were there any Rifle Regiments from New York State?<

      In the 1810 Militia Law for NYS, each State Regiment was ordered to raise one attached company of riflemen. I have sources, though buried in my office at the moment, that the 76th Reg't NYS, raised from northern Jefferson County, NY, had a rifle company called the Watertown Rifles, recruited primarily from the Town of Watertown.

      Gov. Clinton ordered the uniform for the rifle companies will be (paraphrasing) green frocks with yellow trim, green pantaloons with yellow trim, half gaitors, and round hats with yellow band and green feather. A large black waistbelt held sheath for a long hunter's knife and hatchet. Also a regulation NYS canteen, haversack, and horn. There is an interpretation of this uniform in MCH that I've used to recreate such a uniform. The frock is double caped and quite snazzy.

      That such units actually wore such uniforms is suggested by accounts from the Battle of Sackets Harbor, in which the British report seeing green coated riflemen as they approached the sores around Horse Island. There were no federal riflemen on that battlefield that are recorded- only militia riflemen.

      Tim






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    • Thad Stern
      ... majority of the mounted riflemen wore wide brim hats and carried rifles. They were ordered to dismount when they attacked the Indians. The officers were
      Message 33 of 33 , Feb 5, 2010
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        ---The hunting shirt or riflemans frock is probably more correct as a rule for the Militia units from the Western States. We know with out a doubt the descriptions given the men from Kentucky who fought at the Battle of Tippicanoe in 1811, quite savage in appearance wearing hunting shirts, some even leather, wide belts with knives and tomahawks etc. Then again later at the River Raisin descibed the 600 or so militia as wearing riflemans frocks of a variety of colors, well worn slouch hats, long hair and unshaven, leather belts with enormous knifes and tomahawks, RIFLES... and the officers dressed the same except some had shorter rifles and daggers of some value. When Col Johnson went up to the Thames he took one thousand of the best riders of the 3000 man force and rode ahead to engage the Indians and the 41st. They were described as in a motley garb. Some say black riflemans frocks with red trim. The dragoon units wore top hots with cockades but the
        majority of the mounted riflemen wore wide brim hats and carried rifles. They were ordered to dismount when they attacked the Indians. The officers were dressed the same.
        When the 2500 men from Kentucky marched to New Orleans they were in a ragged state. The women of the local areas scrambled to put together blankets and extra clothes. One thousand showed up with out weapons at all. Andrew Jackson was quoted to have said," I have never met a Kentuckian with out a rifle, a deck or cards and a jug of whiskey!"
         
        There has not been very much first hand descriptions of Kentucky Militia men wearing anything other than riflemans frocks... some perhaps, but not much.
         
        So if you're fighting in battles that involved some of the 22,000 men from Kentucky who fought in their States Militia from the beginning of the war to the end you would likely be seeing many riflemans frocks of a variety of colors. Not much uniformity.
         
        The terms of service for the men when they mustered up were about six months or so. The mustering papers told the men to provide their own cloths, gun and powder horns and sometimes even horses. They didn't require much because they weren't going to be gone for long. When they returned they would quite often muster back out again with the next Regiment being called out.
         
        take care,
        Thad















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