Re: Recreated Units on the 1812 list v. 10.9
- I thought only the HRA served a Pontius Pilate's body guard?
--- In WarOf1812@yahoogroups.com, "Kevin Garrett" <kevingarrett@...>
wrote:> > >
> > Just curious though, and without wishing to start a controversy -hence nown as Pontius Pilate's bodyguard etc..) but aren't they just
> on what basis is the 1st Foot considered an 'elite' unit..? I know
> they are the most senior Regiment in the British Army (and are
a bog standard infantry unit like the rest of us..?
> > Cheers,
> > John
> > >Royal Scots an elite unit?
> > It's quite simple John.....just ask us!
> Seriously, if you want a fortress assaulted and taken with bayonets
> only, or your floorboards ripped up for firewood, we're the
> of choice!
> Pioneer and tailor
> Royal Scots Grens
> > [>
- Thanks for this reference Ron. It was known to me, and I have it on
file. However, it begins its study of the data in 1815, and continues
throughout the rest of the century. As far as I recall, none of its
data is from 1812-1814.
I was thinking of a study more relevant to the war of 1812.
However, it is a thorough study, and well worth a read.
On 6-Jan-09, at 2:57 PM, ronpontiac wrote:
> --- In WarOf1812@yahoogroups.com, Ray Hobbs <ray.hobbs@...> wrote:
> "A serious study of desertion among British troops and militia units
> is needed...."
> Hi Ray (et al),
> There was a serious study of desertion undertaken by Peter Burroughs
> a number of years ago and published in the Canadian Historical
> "Tackling Army Desertion in British North America"
> Journal Canadian Historical Review
> Publisher University of Toronto Press
> ISSN 0008-3755 (Print) 1710-1093 (Online)
> Issue Volume 61, Number 1 / 1980
> DOI 10.3138/CHR-061-01-03
> Pages 28-68
> This is a very well-done article and shows that the desertion rate
> was around 10% annually in peace time and lower in war time. One of
> the primary reasons for the formation of the Royal Canadian Rifle
> Regiment in 1841 was to combat the "disgraceful crime." The RCR were
> recruited from among the Regular regiments in Canada at the time and
> was restricted to men who were eligible to receive pensions with at
> least 12 years service. These men had proven that they were somewhat
> trustworthy and had a stake in continuing in the army through
> discharge to receive their pension. Part of their duties including
> manning border forts and patrolling to catch deserters from other
> regiments. It was a question of who was watching the watchers in
> some cases, however, and there were RCR desertions but at a lesser
> rate than in line regiments.
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