Re: [War Of 1812] Chamber's Repeating Gun - Was Puckle Gun
- In a message dated 2/1/2008 9:10:28 AM Central Standard Time,
Far be it from me to disagree with your learned self, sir. However,
I believe most early "revolving chamber" had a disconcerting habit of
spitting flame in all directions around imperfectly sealed chamber-to-
barrel seals. I also know that even Mr. Colt's esteemed weapons, at
least in the days before metal cartridge casings, occasionally "gang
fired", with all chambers going off at once or in very quick
That was certainly a posibility but actualy far less with the Puckle gun as
the brass chambers holding the charge did not just line up with the barrel,
they screwed into it. The crank handle first unscrewed the camber then moved
the revolving block so that the next chamber could be placed oposite the
breach. Then the crank was turned in the oposite direction to screw the loaded
chamber into the barel. So as long as the screw threads engaged properly there
should be no imperfect chamber to barrel seal.
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- Clearly, I did not look at the illustration closely enough!
I retire, sir, bloodied but unbowed, before your superior logic and
- I believe that the real failure of the Puckle Gun could be attributed
to the fact that the gunner had to load the round bullets into the
round chambers and the square bullets into the square chambers and to
remember when to use which. Something about the lack of natural
----- Original Message -----
From: "peter monahan" <petemonahan@...>
Sent: Friday, February 01, 2008 7:36 AM
Subject: Re: [War Of 1812] Chamber's Repeating Gun - Was Puckle Gun
--- In WarOf1812@yahoogroups.com, "Dale Kidd" <ucpm_gunner@...> wrote:
> Is it just me, or is there a very real danger with the so-
called "Roman candle principle of stacked charges"?... Don't think I'd
want to be the poor bugger holding the gun when the barrel explodes...
I believe you have hit on one reason, most probably the main reason,
why Puckle guns and other such arcane ordanance were, mercifully, not
used for very long or in any great numbers: a shortage of really dumb
- "Dale Kidd" <ucpm_gunner@...> wrote:
>Actualy the biggest problem wiht the "Roman Candle" principle use in
> Is it just me, or is there a very real danger with the so-called "Roman
> candle principle of stacked charges"? I just envision one bullet
> failing to fully exit the barrel due to the explosive force of the
> charge venting through the hole in it, then the next charge going off
> behind. Don't think I'd want to be the poor bugger holding the gun when
> the barrel explodes...
the Chamber's gun seems to have been that the fireing sequence in the
multiple barrels would,for want of a better term, get "out of phase"
and the weapon would shake itself to peices. Also, there is the
obvious draw back that once you pull the trigger the weapon continues
to fire until al the charges are expended. There was no way to fire
As for the multi shot muskets, the version with two locks was a
prototype. The production version had, as Mr. Pickles pointed out, a
long tube beside the barrel which comunitcated the fire from priming
pan to initial the initial charge. After fireing off the 11 stacked
rounds the musket could be used as a normal single shot weapon by
fliping a small lever above the pan which uncovered a standard vent
hole beside the priming pan.
- --- In WarOf1812@yahoogroups.com, "peter monahan" <petemonahan@...>
I also know that even Mr. Colt's esteemed weapons, at
> least in the days before metal cartridge casings,occasionally "gang
> fired", with all chambers going off at once or in very quickThis was properly termed a "chain-fire", and was indeed a relatively
common occurrence in Col. Colt's early blackpowder revolvers. The
proper way to avoid this was to seal the open ends of the cylinder
chambers with a wad and/or a layer of grease ahead of the ball.
There is a very humorous, and supposedly true, story of a misfire of
this type happening to none other than the infamous William "Billy
the Kid" Bonney early in his gunfighting career. Apparently, Bonney
got into an argument with a cowboy in a saloon, and while his
adversary was momentarily distracted, drew his revolver and tried to
shoot him in the back (as was the Kid's modus operandi). On this
occasion, however, instead of adding another notch to his sixgun,
Bonney's revolver chain-fired and blew itself apart in his hand. To
add further insult to injury, the would-be target of the young outlaw
took considerable umbrage at his intention, and proceeded to beat the
Kid to a bloody pulp.
Off topic, but interesting none the less.