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  • suthren@magma.ca
    Er...yeah. Think I ll stick to less nasty pursuits in history... Vic ... From: Peter Monahan To: Sent:
    Message 1 of 13 , Apr 30 7:46 PM
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      Er...yeah. Think I'll stick to less nasty pursuits in history...
      Vic
      ----- Original Message -----
      From: "Peter Monahan" <petemonahan@...>
      To: <WarOf1812@yahoogroups.com>
      Sent: Sunday, April 30, 2006 1:05 PM
      Subject: Re: [WarOf1812] Hand to Hand


      > Vic
      >
      > Scary stuff!
      >
      > Peter
      > ============================================================
      > From: <suthren@...>
      > Date: 2006/04/30 Sun AM 11:24:44 EST
      > To: <WarOf1812@yahoogroups.com>
      > Subject: [WarOf1812] Hand to Hand
      >
      > Shipmates
      >
      > Hand to hand re-enactment is unlikely to form part of Naval Establishment
      activity at any point, for reasons explained in the recent full discussion
      that took place here.
      >
      > HOWEVER, for those who still wish to pursue the simulated introduction of
      cold steel thrust between gut and bladder, their bloodthirsty aspirations
      may find relief at
      >
      > http://www.historicalmaritimecombat.com
      >
      > Happy slicing and dicing...
      >
      > Yours in unarmed horror
      >
      > Vic Suthren
      >
      > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
      >
      >
      >
      > The War of 1812: In Europe, thousands fought over the fate of hundreds of
      square miles: in North America, hundreds determined the fate of THOUSANDS of
      square miles...
      >
      > Unit Contact information for North America:
      > ---------------------------------
      > Crown Forces Unit Listing:
      > http://1812crownforces.tripod.com
      >
      > American Forces Unit Listing
      > http://usforces1812.tripod.com
      > Yahoo! Groups Links
      >
      >
      >
      >
      >
      > ============================================================
      >
      >
      >
      >
      >
      > The War of 1812: In Europe, thousands fought over the fate of hundreds of
      square miles: in North America, hundreds determined the fate of THOUSANDS of
      square miles...
      >
      > Unit Contact information for North America:
      > ---------------------------------
      > Crown Forces Unit Listing:
      > http://1812crownforces.tripod.com
      >
      > American Forces Unit Listing
      > http://usforces1812.tripod.com
      > Yahoo! Groups Links
      >
      >
      >
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    • Dale Kidd
      Dear heavens, an Admiral speaking against close combat? You shall be doomed to be the most indebted admiral in the Navy, sir, I am certain. It is most
      Message 2 of 13 , May 1, 2006
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        Dear heavens, an Admiral speaking against close combat? You shall be
        doomed to be the most indebted admiral in the Navy, sir, I am certain.
        It is most difficult to accumulate prize-money without our boarding
        and taking ships, which admittedly tends to be very messy business.

        And true glory is only found by those naval officers who seek out the
        most harrowing of close combat with the enemy. How else would one rise
        to the level of a Nelson? (Though, admittedly, his glory might have
        been a tad greater, especially for him, had he avoided that frog
        marksman...)

        :^D

        ~Dale
      • suthren@magma.ca
        Why, Dale, there s a lad wiv is tops ls drawin rightly, true as paint ye be wiv that broadside, mate, true as a new-scraped carrot. Mark me, when next we
        Message 3 of 13 , May 1, 2006
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          Why, Dale, there's a lad wiv 'is tops'ls drawin' rightly, true as paint ye
          be wiv that broadside, mate, true as a new-scraped carrot. Mark me, when
          next we puts to sea, it' ll be Cut an' Rip, an' No Quarter, there's me davvy
          on it, an', by Thunder, them's as dies will be the lucky ones....

          Vic Suthren
          ----- Original Message -----
          From: "Dale Kidd" <ucpm_gunner@...>
          To: <WarOf1812@yahoogroups.com>
          Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 3:36 AM
          Subject: [WarOf1812] Re: Hand to Hand


          > Dear heavens, an Admiral speaking against close combat? You shall be
          > doomed to be the most indebted admiral in the Navy, sir, I am certain.
          > It is most difficult to accumulate prize-money without our boarding
          > and taking ships, which admittedly tends to be very messy business.
          >
          > And true glory is only found by those naval officers who seek out the
          > most harrowing of close combat with the enemy. How else would one rise
          > to the level of a Nelson? (Though, admittedly, his glory might have
          > been a tad greater, especially for him, had he avoided that frog
          > marksman...)
          >
          > :^D
          >
          > ~Dale
          >
          >
          >
          >
          >
          > The War of 1812: In Europe, thousands fought over the fate of hundreds of
          square miles: in North America, hundreds determined the fate of THOUSANDS of
          square miles...
          >
          > Unit Contact information for North America:
          > ---------------------------------
          > Crown Forces Unit Listing:
          > http://1812crownforces.tripod.com
          >
          > American Forces Unit Listing
          > http://usforces1812.tripod.com
          > Yahoo! Groups Links
          >
          >
          >
          >
          >
          >
          >
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        • BritcomHMP@aol.com
          In a message dated 01/05/2006 02:39:14 Central Standard Time, ucpm_gunner@yahoo.ca writes: How else would one rise to the level of a Nelson? (Though,
          Message 4 of 13 , May 1, 2006
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            In a message dated 01/05/2006 02:39:14 Central Standard Time,
            ucpm_gunner@... writes:

            How else would one rise
            to the level of a Nelson? (Though, admittedly, his glory might have
            been a tad greater, especially for him, had he avoided that frog
            marksman...)






            Actualy I think getting killed as you acheve your greatest triumph is priety
            much the way to secure everlasting glory!


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          • suthren@magma.ca
            Yes. Seems to have been the pattern. Wolfe, Nelson, certainly others.... Vic ... From: To: Sent: Monday, May
            Message 5 of 13 , May 1, 2006
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              Yes. Seems to have been the pattern. Wolfe, Nelson, certainly others....

              Vic
              ----- Original Message -----
              From: <BritcomHMP@...>
              To: <WarOf1812@yahoogroups.com>
              Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 10:52 AM
              Subject: Re: [WarOf1812] Re: Hand to Hand


              >
              > In a message dated 01/05/2006 02:39:14 Central Standard Time,
              > ucpm_gunner@... writes:
              >
              > How else would one rise
              > to the level of a Nelson? (Though, admittedly, his glory might have
              > been a tad greater, especially for him, had he avoided that frog
              > marksman...)
              >
              >
              >
              >
              >
              >
              > Actualy I think getting killed as you acheve your greatest triumph is
              priety
              > much the way to secure everlasting glory!
              >
              >
              > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
              >
              >
              >
              > The War of 1812: In Europe, thousands fought over the fate of hundreds of
              square miles: in North America, hundreds determined the fate of THOUSANDS of
              square miles...
              >
              > Unit Contact information for North America:
              > ---------------------------------
              > Crown Forces Unit Listing:
              > http://1812crownforces.tripod.com
              >
              > American Forces Unit Listing
              > http://usforces1812.tripod.com
              > Yahoo! Groups Links
              >
              >
              >
              >
              >
              >
              >
              >
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            • Gordon Deans
              Fie on you. Speak not of dear Nelson when it was truly our loyal Collingwood that won the Battle of Trafalgar. How did these myths get started? I believe
              Message 6 of 13 , May 1, 2006
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                Fie on you. Speak not of dear Nelson when it was truly our loyal
                Collingwood that won the Battle of Trafalgar. How did these myths get
                started? I believe Nelson ended up on the orlop deck, hardly a great rise
                to aspire to.

                ----- Original Message -----
                From: "Dale Kidd" <ucpm_gunner@...>
                To: <WarOf1812@yahoogroups.com>
                Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 3:36 AM
                Subject: [WarOf1812] Re: Hand to Hand


                > Dear heavens, an Admiral speaking against close combat? You shall be
                > doomed to be the most indebted admiral in the Navy, sir, I am certain.
                > It is most difficult to accumulate prize-money without our boarding
                > and taking ships, which admittedly tends to be very messy business.
                >
                > And true glory is only found by those naval officers who seek out the
                > most harrowing of close combat with the enemy. How else would one rise
                > to the level of a Nelson? (Though, admittedly, his glory might have
                > been a tad greater, especially for him, had he avoided that frog
                > marksman...)
                >
                > :^D
                >
                > ~Dale
              • Lalozon
                From: Gordon Deans Speak not of dear Nelson when it was truly our loyal Collingwood that won the Battle of Trafalgar Mr.
                Message 7 of 13 , May 1, 2006
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                  From: "Gordon Deans" <gord.deans@...>


                  " Speak not of dear Nelson when it was truly our loyal Collingwood that won
                  the Battle of Trafalgar "





                  Mr. Williams,

                  How does Nelson figure into Hand to Hand ?!?
                  Look at the subject ........


                  Yrs.,

                  L2

                  Fantasy is the last refuge of the Gentleman!
                  -Peter Catley-
                • suthren@magma.ca
                  Fighting spirit is all very well, but perhaps more of our revered heroes might have given some thought to the value they would be to their nation and the men
                  Message 8 of 13 , May 1, 2006
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                    Fighting spirit is all very well, but perhaps more of our revered heroes
                    might have given some thought to the value they would be to their nation and
                    the men they led if they had made arrangements to have an even chance of
                    surviving instead of croaking with glory. Brock leading the lads up the
                    slope at Queenston and Nelson standing about on the open deck of VICTORY
                    with all his orders and decorations on come to mind as brave actions, but
                    not entirely responsible ones. Canada needed Brock alive, not a heroic
                    corpse shovelled into the ramparts of Fort George. And the Brits (not to
                    mention Emma Hamilton) could have found a few more uses for Horatio...

                    Vic
                    ----- Original Message -----
                    From: "Gordon Deans" <gord.deans@...>
                    To: <WarOf1812@yahoogroups.com>
                    Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 1:52 PM
                    Subject: Re: [WarOf1812] Re: Hand to Hand


                    > Fie on you. Speak not of dear Nelson when it was truly our loyal
                    > Collingwood that won the Battle of Trafalgar. How did these myths get
                    > started? I believe Nelson ended up on the orlop deck, hardly a great rise
                    > to aspire to.
                    >
                    > ----- Original Message -----
                    > From: "Dale Kidd" <ucpm_gunner@...>
                    > To: <WarOf1812@yahoogroups.com>
                    > Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 3:36 AM
                    > Subject: [WarOf1812] Re: Hand to Hand
                    >
                    >
                    > > Dear heavens, an Admiral speaking against close combat? You shall be
                    > > doomed to be the most indebted admiral in the Navy, sir, I am certain.
                    > > It is most difficult to accumulate prize-money without our boarding
                    > > and taking ships, which admittedly tends to be very messy business.
                    > >
                    > > And true glory is only found by those naval officers who seek out the
                    > > most harrowing of close combat with the enemy. How else would one rise
                    > > to the level of a Nelson? (Though, admittedly, his glory might have
                    > > been a tad greater, especially for him, had he avoided that frog
                    > > marksman...)
                    > >
                    > > :^D
                    > >
                    > > ~Dale
                    >
                    >
                    >
                    > The War of 1812: In Europe, thousands fought over the fate of hundreds of
                    square miles: in North America, hundreds determined the fate of THOUSANDS of
                    square miles...
                    >
                    > Unit Contact information for North America:
                    > ---------------------------------
                    > Crown Forces Unit Listing:
                    > http://1812crownforces.tripod.com
                    >
                    > American Forces Unit Listing
                    > http://usforces1812.tripod.com
                    > Yahoo! Groups Links
                    >
                    >
                    >
                    >
                    >
                    >
                    >
                    >
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                    >
                    >
                  • James Krause
                    WarOf1812@yahoogroups.com wrote: There are 25 messages in this issue. Topics in this digest: 1. Re: Hand to Hand From: Craig Williams 2. Longwoods tactical
                    Message 9 of 13 , May 1, 2006
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                      WarOf1812@yahoogroups.com wrote: There are 25 messages in this issue.

                      Topics in this digest:

                      1. Re: Hand to Hand
                      From: Craig Williams
                      2. Longwoods 'tactical' event
                      From: "Mark Dickerson"
                      3. Re: Hand to Hand
                      From:
                      4. Re: Hand to Hand
                      From:
                      5. Re: Longwoods 'tactical' event
                      From: "Dale Kidd"
                      6. Re: Hand to Hand
                      From: "Dale Kidd"
                      7. Re: Re: Hand to Hand
                      From:
                      8. Waterloo
                      From: "Lalozon"
                      9. RE: Lundy's Lane vs Longwoods
                      From: "Kevin Windsor"
                      10. Re: Waterloo
                      From: "Mark Dickerson"
                      11. Re: Waterloo
                      From: Craig Williams
                      12. Re: Waterloo
                      From:
                      13. Re: Waterloo
                      From: Craig Williams
                      14. Re: Waterloo
                      From: "PEGGY Mathews"
                      15. Waterloo
                      From: "Lalozon"
                      16. Re: Waterloo
                      From: Craig Williams
                      17. PRACTICE CUTLASSES FOR SALE
                      From: "Lalozon"
                      18. Re: Waterloo
                      From: BritcomHMP@...
                      19. Re: Re: Hand to Hand
                      From: BritcomHMP@...
                      20. Re: Re: Hand to Hand
                      From:
                      21. Re: Waterloo
                      From: dancingbobd@...
                      22. Re: Re: Hand to Hand
                      From: "Gordon Deans"
                      23. Hand to Hand
                      From: "Lalozon"
                      24. Re: Re: Hand to Hand
                      From:
                      25. Re: Dying as a career move
                      From:


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                      Message: 1
                      Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2006 17:32:23 -0400
                      From: Craig Williams
                      Subject: Re: Hand to Hand

                      EEEEYIKES!

                      This is exactly the kind of thing that makes me icky!
                      I mean what are these guys wearing and why do they have facial hair?
                      And why do these pictures look like they came from the initial
                      training session for that "Pyrate" show at the Las Vegas casino?

                      EEEW!

                      Ok...I'm OK now. Just keep breathing deeply...Please don't show me
                      any more scary pictures Vic. (what did I ever do to you?)

                      Craig
                      It's the Society for Creative Anachronisms With Less Duct Tape. I've resumed taking my meds, advise you do the same, Sir. :-)
                      Jim Krause


                      Music Director, Fife Instructor
                      The Kaw Valley Fife & Drum Corps
                      fife and drum music of early America





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